Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[jointer13] 16/2/2017 09:05

nice... starting to get a hold

looks like neill wants his brand nanene to be everywhere

a bit of news and we should be on our way

[theklf] 16/2/2017 09:03

I think the stock should be trading at north of 25p already and so any news should be taken positively by the shares. Todays news was however lacking in details on volumes/prices etc. I must admit I have followed the UK Chemicals sector for a very long time and had never heard of Landsdowne Chemicals. Does anybody have any financial metrics on their size?

On the charting front I continue to expect strong gains here given we have had a Golden Cross now. Should bring in a lot of traders/technical analysis followers as a Golden Cross is one of the most reliable of charting signals in my experience.

Well spotted luckyorange!

luckyorange - 08 Feb 2017 - 11:30:05 - 1484 of 1760 Versarien Developing

advanced materials and enabling engineering exploitation - VRS

Who .is Graham?

Don't forget traders, there is a golden cross forming, 50 day through the 200 day so you may want to hang on for a week or two

[superg1] 16/2/2017 08:59

Btw

Goldman Sachs apparently don't know VRS do graphene but they do look of Cambridge their ink breakthrough.

They do not list VRS in the graphene sector but VRS didn't start out that way. I'll chat with the relevant analyst and get him up to speed on that and other graphene topics missed.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 08:52

The important news within the news is this bit

"Now that we have proven capacity and capability to produce Nanene we need to get this new product to market as quickly as possible, to as many as possible and by every appropriate route"

PROVEN capacity and capability NOT theoretical capacity, real genuine ability to scale up to produce some of the highest if not the highest quality GNPs and graphene worldwide. The key point being commercial capability. If anyone wants it they can get it from VRS.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 08:47

I agree phoenixs the big news gets no attention and things that were blatantly obvious to me cause big hikes.

The big news which isn't currently news is the ink acquisition details which I have yet to fully research but have a considerable lead on others.

Then we have the supply to Mclaren of course which isn't news yet.

[phoenixs] 16/2/2017 08:42

let's not get carried away. it is a distribution agreement, not a big sales contract.
It is like a jigsaw with the various pieces falling into place but whilst it is exciting it isn't there yet.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 08:26

I suppose it depends if they can free any up.

Options like Black rock, Allianz and Unicorn investments have all gone, their cupboard is completely bare.

someone else it seems got rid of theirs, near 2 mill of them, so either a chunk gone or if which I suspect all or virtually all have gone.

Time will tell if they can find a supply. I'll add up what has gone since the start of October. Most of it seems to have gone into long term PIs hands.

[top_banana1] 16/2/2017 08:18

They are not selling more than 10K online :(


Make those phone trades to buy

[top_banana1] 16/2/2017 08:16

Breaking out nice.


should hit 20p a

[superg1] 16/2/2017 08:14

Peel hunt.

I don't know if they have been caught cold or the door knock supply said none left, but they have jumped off the offer and onto the bid.

They have quite clearly been the source of supply over the last week.

I suspect a 'mole'

Ignore the mole bit that me telling unknown potential viewers quite clearly what I thought the supply was.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 08:09

This is from the city NOT ME and just starting.

Apparently an article on graphene and Andre Geim. Apparently a must read and being pushed out as such to understand this sector and realise the opportunities

I've never heard of it and will seek to read the relevant part ASAP.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 07:54

Cyber

And a quick bail out option too.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 07:52

Yeah a hype company alright.

A hype company that seems to releases various apparently important news via the non reg system.

If AGM bods farts started smelling on graphene they would reg rns it. that's the one thing you can guarantee with companies like AGM ( I have a long list of others). They refuse to release the bad news. Bad news for lifestyle shares seriously fks up the fleece the market plan and salary flow.

That's why I say SPs can fly on such shares. My interest is not an share price it's the business sat behind the gloss.

[cyberbub] 16/2/2017 07:39

I notice that there is no mention if exclusivity, so Versarien can make further distribution agreements in future.

[luckyorange] 16/2/2017 07:34

A nice step forward.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 07:33

Lol

Dark dogs

I was so buried in research I wondered what on earth you were going on about re a distribution agreement, I hadn't checked for news.

Having read it I too have thought, Lansdowne now where the hell did I read about them. Was it here, was it VRS research, was it something else, no idea.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 07:25

I've only done a few hours on inks and I can see 100's of hours needed. TBH I didn't see that coming hence my annoyance at missing what had been sat right under my nose. I was on the graphene Cambridge site and just by chance and picked the wrong click before and ended up the patent news as posted before.

Good in away as I wouldn't have known to back track to the Goldman's report which triggered the hunt for Novalia and Cambridge.

I know some take no notice but I am absolutely sure what is in the original page is what VRS now have, 100 metres per minute capability is what VRS have acquired.

Note the method mentioned (as in the article) can be used for various materials not just graphene but I'm not looking into that right now.

[cyberbub] 16/2/2017 07:17

Great RNS. I have heard of Landsdowne so they must be decent sized! :-)

[darkdogs] 16/2/2017 07:14

nice distribution agreement, nanene ready to rock and roll

[superg1] 16/2/2017 07:12

There are countless other uses for graphene ink but Rfids caught my attention as it stands out and Cambridge the NGI and Goldman Sachs chat about it.

Then there is various detail about around Rfids potentially replacing bar codes. That was before graphene ink came into play.

On tha topic I noted this web page which is a nice easy view re bar codes v

It may never happen but it demonstrates some huge gains to be made by companies.




Another one here with a bit more commentary and detail




They are before graphene ink so they assume silver use.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 07:04

When I get my computers back I'll change the header and start listing the various aspects of VRS.

I also took the opportunity to talk about the various businesses and the reasons for them. I'll post about that later as I'm itching to crack on looking up inks.

Btw the NGI do inks and things they did formed part of my questions. Well the NGI will openly admit they are a country mile behind Cambridge. VRS were well aware of that as they are in the UOM and NGI via 2D tech.

So another considerable world lead in play and IMO potentially easier to gain substantial market penetration.

Nokia intrigues me as I was noting their interest in graphene months back and it is to appear in their phones re sensors.

With Rfids I didn't at first get why Nokia would be looking at Rfids. However just simply search Nokia Rfids, they have been looking at it for some time and have obviously been involved with Cambridge and Graphene printed Rfids.

[superg1] 16/2/2017 06:56

The KLF

Don't confuse a gram being sold at £400 as an example of costs involved, but that said some have very high production costs.

Those that went to the open day have a fair idea.

Them consider loadings. The ink may well be 1% or .1% oe less, meaning 10 grams per kg, 1 gram or less.

Not the VRS white plastic samples turned almost jet black by .5% loadings. That is due to the sheer number of GNP particals.

Then I'm guessing silver printing is by no means as easy and cost effective as normal printing methods. As stated by Cambridge their breakthrough can mean printing with no changes needed at 100 metres per minute. In other words industrial scale at current market levels.

Hence VRS haven't cornered a novel idea, it's ready for market.

It's not even a simple breakthrough it's a full house in one hit. Water based dries quickly, quality as standard, can be used like current inks, as fast as current methods.

So yes I'm blown away but equally thinking FFS when I check google there is so much to look at re news on the potential of graphene ink the mind boggles.

Rfids seems an obvious one and as stated Nokia ran the bend tests on a graphene printed version. Cambridge graphene ink it seems with Ferrari the guy who chatted to and continues to chat to VRS.

[theklf] 16/2/2017 00:21

I think Versarien have talked about being 2-3% by volume of another product. Even that doesn't account for the 600x price differential with silver.


affc21 15 Feb '17 - 23:13 - 1735 of 1739 0 0

TheKLF
I might be wrong but my assumption is that Graphene will be deployed at the atomic level (think the scientific terminology is TINY ;) ).
And silver will be deployed at a some what thicker level...

[theklf] 16/2/2017 00:19

cyberbub

Not necessarily. Look at ARM a British high tech leader which stayed independent despite taking on the might of Intel, AMD, NEC, Hitachi,Toshiba,ST Micro etc

Eventually when they were taken over they were taken over by a financial conglomerate Softbank not a tech competitor

[humanoid] 15/2/2017 23:54

superg1 have you come across this lot?: hxxp://vorbeck.com/pages/about-ourstory