sikhthetech ; ok good spot, management fee £114 I assume a year. but did you also notice just under the At A Glance the read more link.
"This home benefits from an upgraded kitchen with spotlights and all white goods appliances included. Upgraded flooring is also included throughout."
benefits from upgraded ... not sure what the spec was, but looks like I said HBs throwing in extras rather than reducing prices. |
There 1 question that you should be asking yourselves;
Do you believe that Starmer, Rachel from accounts, and Rayner will trash the economy?
If the answer is yes, then why are you talking about buying / holding any House Builder shares. Remember housing is the first to suffer in a economic downturn.
If you think they are capable of managing the economy then keep talking up the house builders.
Not for me I have now sold all holdings (not just TW.) and will sit on the cash until late spring, and watch how budget changes kick in. I wont any money but there again I wont lose any.
And by the way whats Rayner up to,she seams to have gone very quiet. Thinking of excesses why the extra 400'000 houses wont be built. or working on employe rights that will discourage employers taking on staff. |
Not very well by the look of it lol. Makes you laugh doesn't it, posts constantly on here spouting rubbish and yet Silk totally gets it wrong with a dog like TLY lol. ? |
Oh look, Taylor Wimpey development nr Derby, so your area.
Estate management fees!!!
More evidence then that you repeatedly talk BS. |
Oh dear, rattled because evidence posted proving you talk BS.
How are TW doing?
For someone claiming to be a multi-millionaire, owning lots of property, £5m share portfolio, busiest for many years etc, you do spend a lot of time posting on a BB posting BS...
lol |
How are TLY doing? |
Jugears
"I can honestly say that I do not know of any estates with management fees."
I thought you claimed to be a small supplier to several builders? As part of that, why would you then need to know if the development has management fees or not?
After evidence is published, you change your mind and claim "Not all".
Yet again, changing the goal posts after evidence is posted!!!
You/Baracuda/Becky etc etc are clueless and have no idea how the housing market works nor how economic/political/sector newsflow impacts HBs. You all make things up as you go along and move the goal posts to suit your agenda.
Try being consistent.
JUGEARS30 Jan '25 - 23:05 - 21267 of 21277 Well I've worked on thousands in the last near 50 years if that helps, my children live on newish estates & have never paid any but then there roads were adopted by the council.
JUGEARS31 Jan '25 - 09:16 - 21273 of 21277 Not every new build |
Anyway trolls, why is this being discussed, doesn't affect anything does it! |
The new owners of myy old company that I sold out recently after running it for nearly 50 years supplying to the housing & construction industry ( amongst many other sectors) are building another new production facility to meet demand, I am currently back there setting it up for them,I have many friends in the industry from site staff to higher management/CEO's, the last few months have been quite buoyant & should continue once rates fall further IMEO & yes I have dealt with highways on many occasions whilst building houses & commercial property for my rental portfolio.# Meanwhile Tw continue to build & sell houses! |
![](/p.php?pid=profilepic&user=fletcher) Baracuda2 ; "I really don’t know where these trolls get this rubbish from."
How about 37 years of putting together viabilities for land acquisitions, finical updates throughout the planning process and long term financial forecasts,all for major house builders.
Jugears; "I do not know of any estates with management fees" obviously you dont know that many people on new estates. And if your knowledge of planning was a bit better you would know that on some estates there are no management fees, your quite correct. But chances are that on these sites through S106 / CIL the developer will have made serious contributions for off site POS, sport pitches and play areas, normally to the LA. Hence theres no management fees for purchasers. But a lump sum management fee in effect has been paid,
And Jugears; "I've worked on thousands in the last near 50 years" work in what capacity, to work on "thousands" of sites??? Those working on sites tend to know every little about intrigersies and responsible for setting out and ongoing maintenance of open spaces, play areas, management companies etc.
And "but then there roads were adopted by the council" house builders reluctantly go for highways adoption, and it cost them a fortune in maintenance to get them adopted. Have you tried dealing with Highways Agency. Developers can use APCs and make the roads private, but its a major NO NO as from a marketing point, as the maintenance costs for purchasers could be prohibitive, along with all the technical and legal issues; bins are normally collected only from public highways, does it mean that no one can park out side your house - 'thats my piece of road', on a private road does your car insurance cover you and if theres an accident due to road conditions whos liable (the residents) ??
"Trolls" you 2 appear to have very limited knowledge of how housing developments work. I wonder whos the Troll are.
And just for your information talking to old contacts in the business. September through to December developers were quietly discounting prices. Not through reduced prices but the price now includes carpets or an upgraded kitchens, extra wall tiling etc etc. |
Every new build estate. |
Not every new build |
Incredible to find that the thread’s expert doesn’t believe that there are estate management fees on every new build estate. Bit of a worry really |
I dunno either. |
Me neither and I have owned a new build. I really don't know where these trolls get this rubbish from. |
“ Well I've worked on thousands in the last near 50 years if that helps,”
No that doesn’t help. No use to anyone to be fair |
“ newish estates” being 2001 to 2012 around there on fully adopted estates.. Excellent properties with EPC C ratings, though probably need to add felt support trays by now
But there’s no debate here. Just look at every new build on rightmove . Show me a TW on rightmove without an estate management fee ? It’s an uncapped fee therefore could potentially harm the future saleability of a house imo |
Well I've worked on thousands in the last near 50 years if that helps, my children live on newish estates & have never paid any but then there roads were adopted by the council. |
Yeah it’s every development these days. Must be by national order, can’t be a coincidence that all developers sold out to management companies at around same time? |
Jugears you don't know of any estates with management fees? What is your experience in housing developments??? Certainly in my experience EVERY development over the past 20 years has had management fees for POS's , play areas and the such like!!! Obviously you ever seen Local Authorities adoption charges and conditions!!!!! |
I can honestly say that I do not know of any estates with management fees. |
Eg
Property Description :
‘ Tenure: Freehold Estate management fee: £207.08 ‘ |
“ tbf I don't know of any estates in my area that have any management fees “
Uh errr….
The new build estate on the end of your village has estate management fees attached |
“ once complete most are adopted by local council that fleece everyone with council tax “
Uh errr
All fake freeholds pay both the estate management fees and full council tax. Effectively paying twice for one service |