Stenprop Share Discussion Threads

[dandadandan] 16/9/2015 08:16

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:)

[dandadandan] 15/9/2015 20:49

From my research so far it looks like AYONDO provide some of the best returns.
Fast trades plus little slippage.

etoro , zulutrader have plenty of users as well.

Auto trading is about to get noticed by the masses IMO.

etoro, zulutrader, ayondo are all looking for market share and investing accordingly.
Been checking out avatrade (Dublin) they seem to have some nice STP system tweaks / precautions in place.

Some of the bigger UK 'Houses' will have to start to make participation much more easier or they will get left behind, IMO.

I see that even TipTV is now using STP people as commentators. They are getting noticed.

GLA.

[dandadandan] 15/9/2015 20:13

Checkout www.socialtradingguru.com

It a good comparison site.

GLA.

[dandadandan] 15/9/2015 09:24

Checklist for Social Trading.(Auto Trading)

Best advice found :

Selecting a Trader to Follow.

1. No of open Trades - Keep them low 5 to 6.
2. Max Drawdown - 10% to 15%.
3. Amount Foillowing - £s or $s shows a vote of confidence.
4. Traders Graph - Look for a steady Uptrend.
5. Ave No of PIPs per transaction - Look for above 10.
6. Time Trading - Not less than 13 weeks.
7. Number of Follwers - the higher the better.
8. Return of Investment % - the higher the better.
9. Win % - 40%+ at least.
10.Compare Graphs with others for current open trades.
11.Equity Min - Not too high.
12.Slippage profit - difference between traders profit and followers - min difference.
13.Draw Downs - Keep small if possible.
14.Comments on trader - Examine especially in a bad period.
15.No of Live Follwers - It's a check on underperformance.


GLA

[dandadandan] 14/9/2015 13:46

A traders record on Ayondo as an example trading DAX.

+17.62% Perform. since Reg.(16 March)
6.29% Max. drawdown
1.41% Volatility
315 Num. trades
84.13% Win trades
100.00% Win months.

This looks good to me, especially the graph.
Is this 5 month record good?

Any views?
(Trading Real Money as well).

[dandadandan] 14/9/2015 13:16

M4
Does anyone have experiences of using the likes of ayondo, etoro, zulutrader etc?

DDDD

[dandadandan] 14/9/2015 12:28

M3
Does anyone have experiences of using the likes of ayondo, etoro, zulutrader etc?

DDDD

[dandadandan] 14/9/2015 12:07

M2
Does anyone have experiences of using the likes of ayondo, etoro, zulutrader etc?

DDDD

[dandadandan] 14/9/2015 11:51

Does anyone have experiences of using the likes of ayondo, etoro, zulutrader etc?

DDDD

[dandadandan] 14/9/2015 11:50

Social Trading Platforms - STP

Anyones Experiences.

Do they work?
What is the easiest to use?
Who are the best traders to Follow?
What is the best BB to use for information and users experiences?

Traders Opinions Please..........

DDDD

[jack dee] 14/1/2011 00:28

Spiritel PLC pushing up Daisies

[l0wrdr] 11/11/2010 09:55

O/T

pinnacle telecoms, in the same sector and may well be brought out by daisy in the future


11th November 2010 Analyst: Philip Morrish
Email: [e-mail]
Tel: [phone]

Pinnacle Telecom Group - Closed Year Strongly, Forecasts Upped and Target Price Increased to 0.79p (0.53p)


Key Data

EPIC
PINN
Share Price
0.39p
NMS
0.36p-0.42p
Spread
300,000
Total no of Shares
1.87 billion
Market Cap
GBP 7.28 million
12 Month Range
0.27p-0.62p
Market
AIM
Website
www.pinnacletelecomgroup.co.uk
Sector
Telecommunications
Contact
Alan Bonner, Chief Executive 0845 119 2100


Pinnacle Telecom Group plc is an acquisitive AIM listed provider of hosted integrated telecommunications solutions, specifically focused upon the huge UK SME market. The company, currently over half way through its strategic repositioning, is starting to strongly deliver as demonstrated by the graph: Half Yearly Trend in Turnover & Operating Profit, below. Indeed, Pinnacle reported a maiden operating profit (clean of amortisation and exceptional charges) of GBP40,841 for the six months ended 31st March 2010 compared with a loss of GBP413,695 for the comparable period a year earlier.

The strong first half performance has continued into the second half with the company providing the connectivity circuits for the television and radio broadcasting of over 42 major events, including the Pope's visit, all the political parties conferences, and the Glastonbury and Reading Festivals. Moreover, Pinnacle's hosted communications solution is fully endorsed and extensively used by the BBC. Indeed, on 14th October, the company was awarded the best Enterprise Solution award at the prestigious 2010 Comms National Awards for its BBC solution.



Pinnacle has rapidly become the market leader in this market segment and on 7th October 2010, the company confirmed that '... The events business has helped ensure that the Company will deliver turnover for the year ended 30th September 2010, ahead of market expectations.' In light of this comment, we have edged up our sales expectations for the financial years ending 30th September 2010 and 2011 by 1.5% to GBP6.5 million and GBP8.6 million respectively although not as yet fully reflected in EBITDA margins due to further technical infrastructure investment.

Additionally, the company successfully raised GBP0.45 million before expenses through a placing of 128,571,429 new Ordinary shares at 0.35p each, a then premium of 18.64% to the 21st September mid-market price, for general working capital requirements so that the company can continue to capitalise upon the growing number of opportunities; we estimate that the group closed the 2010 financial year with net cash of GBP0.5 million.

Pinnacle remains comfortably on track with its strategic repositioning into a hosted integrated communications solutions provider; the business has been stabilised, management team strengthened and its market opportunities and service offerings have been clearly defined - exemplified by the company's market leadership position in the 'events' market segment. The company is now beginning to release its growth potential as demonstrated by its return to an operating profit before exceptional items while the recent strengthening of the balance sheet will ensure that further opportunities to accelerate growth that is consolidating will not be missed.

This week Daisy Group agreed to acquire SpriTel, a broadly similar business to Pinnacle, on EV/Sales multiple of 1.57 times sales for the financial year ended 30th April 2010 and is consistent with our approach to valuing Pinnacle.

Therefore, with the shares trading at 0.39p, the 2009 financial year Enterprise Value was GBP4.899 million, which is 1.53 times reported 2009 sales of GBP3.192 million. We estimate that by the end of the 2011 financial year, the group will be EBITDA profitable and increasingly cash generative, such that (in the highly unlikely event of no further acquisitions) Pinnacle will close the year with net cash of GBP1.62 million. Therefore, if the shares were to trade on a similar EV/sales multiple, then, based on our revised but still conservative 2011 forecasts, they would be 0.79p. With the shares currently trading at 0.39p we re-iterate our recommendation of buy.

Forecast table

Year to 30th
September
Turnover
(GBP000)
EBITDA
(GBP000)
Pre-tax Profit (GBP000)
Earnings Per Share (p)
Price Earnings Ratio (x)
Dividend (p)
Yield (%)

2007A
1,015
(1,114)
(2,583)
(0.46)
NA
0.0
0.0

2008A
1,495
(839)
(1,067)
(0.09)
NA
0.0
0.0

2009A
3,192
(504)
(895)
(0.07)
NA
0.0
0.0

2010E
6,500
179
(219)
(0.01)
NA
0.0
0.0

2011E
8,600
337
(42)
(0.00)
NA
0.0
0.0


Source: Company and Growth Equities & Company Research

[legin3] 10/11/2010 13:39

martin 44 end result where all shafted

[longshanks] 10/11/2010 08:45

yep. I guess those convertible bond holders swung the balance....an easy 20+% for them on their investment last year.

A good deal for DAY - who will now get aligned income generating businesses that will give them a payback of less than 3 years - might be worth investing in them for growth potential.

With this deal I am actually at break-even so I guess not too badly off compared to others.

[someuwin] 10/11/2010 07:13

Sold off for 51.5p - lol

Shareholders (if there are any left here?) shafted again!

[longshanks] 03/11/2010 12:46

One dat slipped thru da net.




Firm is looking at several purchases, says chief executive Alastair Mills
SpiriTel is targeting larger acquisitions in an increasingly aggressive drive into the converged solutions space.

Speaking to Mobile, SpiriTel chief executive Alastair Mills (pictured) said the company is looking at several acquisitions, which could even include buying a company 'much larger than SpiriTel'.

SpiriTel's combined strategy of acquisition and organic growth has seen the company's business division, which consists of mobile, fixed line and IP services, expand rapidly.

Reporting its results this week, the group revealed revenue of £21.3m – 6% ahead of expectations – and EBITDA 7% ahead of estimates at £1.6m. Most of this growth lies in the business division, where revenues were up 71% to £17.7m and underlying EBITDA up 70% to £3.1m.

SpiriTel's acquisition drive is backed by funding from equity investor Penta Group and Clydesdale Bank. Mills looks at around two potential acquisitions each week, and claims to regularly receive approaches from mobile, IP and fixed lines firms interested in selling.

SpiriTel's mobile connections were recently swelled by its latest acquisition, Housing Communications Limited (HCL), in May. The Shropshire based mobile reseller, which centres on the Housing Association market, brought over 15,000 mobile connections to the Group's mobile business.

SpiriTel aims to cross sell into HCL's customer base. Mills said: 'That's what our strategy is all about – cross selling mobile, networks and IP services to existing and acquired customers. This strategy of providing a complete business communications portfolio to our customers has generated significant organic growth of around 15%.'

Responding to industry rumours that SpiriTel may become an acquisition target, he said: 'I would be disappointed if there was not some financial interest in SpiriTel. In a rapidly consolidating market you have to keep eating or be eaten, but we want to keep eating. We have a machine that really works and there is no reason to exit right now.'


Second and last paragraphs make interestin readin.

I is buyin more n more of dese muvvas. Cheap as chips.

[martin44] 30/10/2010 22:00

well slowly but surely some positive news just around the corner!

[longshanks] 29/10/2010 15:58

i is buyin sum more of dese muvvas. it lookin very nice from me rockin chair - soon we be dancin wiv dem stars in da sky.

[dyardley] 21/10/2010 20:21

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

[longshanks] 20/10/2010 20:08

me breath is baited

[martin44] 20/10/2010 16:20

Tomorrow could be an interesting one.....

[martin44] 19/10/2010 16:24

Also maybe there will be some hot news at the AGM on Thursday 21st!

[martin44] 19/10/2010 12:02

Gosh this is quiet I guess everyone waiting for the announcement on the next aquisition which should be just round the corner! Maybe then we will start to see a few more ticks upwards!!

[longshanks] 29/9/2010 21:24

good finds martin44.

2011 EBITDA estimate of £4.8m is conservative.

i is taking a 20% growth rate cos that is what they made this year in the growth business areas and i calculated EBITDA of £6.5m.

either estimate makes the business look real cheap. should get some interest if FinnCap can get anyone to listen. if my figures hold any water we should be gettin a tradin update in november saying we is ahead of expectations.