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SMDS Smith (ds) Plc

-1.80 (-0.6%)
05 Dec 2023 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Smith (ds) Plc LSE:SMDS London Ordinary Share GB0008220112 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -1.80 -0.6% 298.30 3,638,484 16:35:20
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
299.50 299.70 304.60 298.60 300.00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Corrugated & Solid Fiber Box 8.22B 503M 0.3653 8.20 4.12B
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
16:35:20 UT 1,987,863 298.30 GBX

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04/12/202313:18Smith (DS) PLC with Charts and News4,257
07/9/202317:11DS Smith - Smudger's on the rise79
03/11/200917:24Whats Happening !!!!!141
23/4/200917:51DS Smith - must be a sell.182
12/2/200215:21SMITH(DS)- whats up? something is cooking?18

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Posted at 05/12/2023 08:20 by Smith (ds) Daily Update
Smith (ds) Plc is listed in the Corrugated & Solid Fiber Box sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker SMDS. The last closing price for Smith (ds) was 300.10p.
Smith (ds) currently has 1,377,000,000 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Smith (ds) is £4,122,738,000.
Smith (ds) has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 8.20.
This morning SMDS shares opened at 300p
Posted at 04/12/2023 13:18 by mcunliffe1
The phrases 'Investing more capital into its business' and 'the returns earned from that capital are (also) increasing' are good.

The phrase 'consider share repurchases' is not good.

Whilst I accept, with some reluctance, the benefit of a share BB when the share price is uncharacteristically low compared to a BB when the share price is high I still see the concept of a BB as a admission by the management that they are devoid of growth ideas.

Unless a company grows or at least grabs a larger share of its market how can earnings per share grow? I appreciate the maths of buying your own shares and cancelling them creates fewer shares demanding a dividend payment - hence, future earnings are indeed more "per share" than they would otherwise be.

But what's wrong with buying out a competitor?
Posted at 04/12/2023 12:29 by buyzantium
With inflation cooling down, Barclays expects volumes to pick up next year by around 3-5%. It also suggested that if the company cut back on growth capex, free cash flow would be significantly ahead of dividends and then it could consider share repurchases, especially at the current depressed multiple. "We believe DS Smith should cut capex to maintenance capex levels and hope that DS Smith doesn't engage in expensive M&A and instead focuses on optimising its portfolio and operations," analysts at Barclays said.
Posted at 04/12/2023 11:45 by buyzantium
Barclays upgraded DS Smith on Monday to 'overweight' from 'equalweight' and lifted the price target to 360p from 310p.
Posted at 03/12/2023 19:12 by yump
Share price also was down from covid peak (50%+) and Amazon is a fraction of dsms output.
Halfords bike sales down a lot from peak.
Etc etc

So quoting the Amazon reduction from Covid peak is irrelevant.

Behold the theory of relativity at work.
Posted at 16/11/2023 05:56 by buyzantium
Any thoughts out there as to whether Mondi might still be considering a takeover as reported in 2021. Current attractive low price and beneficial synergy makes it feel that it could perhaps resurface.
Posted at 22/10/2023 21:21 by alotto
is Smith DS going to post earnings in the region of £500 mln in 23/24? if that is the case how does the market justify such a low share price?
Posted at 17/10/2023 20:57 by bell011
Fair questions... i'll reply in due course adding more context .. and sadly i will be correct. Will say .. that as recessionary indicators go cardboard demand is important...dropping dramatically.. Smiths will have to report it. I will add i have no interest in share price.
Posted at 22/5/2023 10:16 by anhar
MCunliffe1: I'm looking to invest a modest amount in SMDS via my SIPP. I believe the (final) ex-div date is 15th June...

It won't be 15 June. Annual results for the year to 30 April are due out on 22 June so the final div xd date, yet to be announced, will be some time after that. Historically it has been in October though with the latest interim they brought forward the date compared with previous years, so they may do that with the final.

...I see the share price is not at a low point but heartened to read some belief in a possible takeover...

Ignore bid talk, it's all hot air and wishful thinking from people who know nothing. If as you say you are considering this share on income grounds, and I'm also an income investor, then consider it on that basis alone.
Posted at 20/5/2023 09:05 by mcunliffe1
I'm looking to invest a modest amount in SMDS via my SIPP. I believe the (final) ex-div date is 15th June. I mention this as I'm looking primarily for income in my pension (I hold L&G and Phoenix Group for this very reason).

I see the share price is not at a low point but heartened to read some belief in a possible takeover.

I'll make a decision early next week but would welcome any comments you guys think appropriate as I've not studied SMDS previously.
Posted at 02/9/2020 18:32 by redartbmud
Is the Smds share price being manipulated by algos set up by the shorters?
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