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[sat69] 13/12/2006 20:11

Get ready for tomorrows lift off guys

[sat69] 13/12/2006 20:10

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[kinkell] 01/5/2006 15:00

Hope to try ASM's service shortly. Anyone using this service? Views appreciated.

[tinker] 28/5/2005 17:56

I live in Spain and have a 1.8 metre Satellite dish on the roof of my villa. My next door neighbour, a retired German GP, says I am being exposed to 'wave shadow' where waves 'flow' over the edge of the dish and enter my body overnight in the bedroom which in direct line below the dish. These will slowly destroy my immune system, cause insomnia (the markets do that), tiredness and even cancer.

I have done a fair amount of Googling but can find hardly anything on the subject (plenty on mobile phones). Anyone know anything or recommend web sites.

[seela] 29/9/2003 00:46

But are there any alternatives to Sky?

[smallchange] 29/9/2003 00:02

Sky is probably the best, if you dont want sport channels or film channels its quite good value..then when there is a fuilm on you want to watch, you just pay to watch that film...with no need to go to the video shop to find out the film isn't out yet or theyve all been hired out, and from the sounds of your location thats another 45 minutes wasted ho hum.

[zzaxx99] 28/9/2003 21:15

Get a copy of What Satellite - lists all the satellites, where they are in the sky, what size dish you need & what channels are on each.

Apart from the Astra satellites (on which you'll find Sky), probably the biggest choice is on Hotbird - about 900-1000 channels, of which maybe a third are free to air.

Of the free channels, there are lots of Greek, Italian and a variety of middle-eastern. There are also a few French, and several German channels, plus various east-european, and precious few in English - eg BBC World

That leaves about 6-700 other channels which are subscription based & encrypted, including several porn channels, should your interests lie in that direction.

Hotbird & Sky can be picked up on a 80-100cm dish from most of the UK, using 2 LNBs on the same dish. You'll need a separate receiver - there is not currently a receiver on the market that provides Sky and Others in the same box.

Subscription channels use a variety of encryption methods, most of which can be coped with by boxes which accept CAMs (Conditional Access Modules - generally, 1 per encryption type (of which there are several), though some more expensive CAMs support multiple formats). The CAM then accepts the subscription cards for the specific channels. Many of the boxes also have 1 or 2 built in decoders (effectively a built in CAM). So, if Channel XYZ requires a subscription, and is encoded using, say, Viacrypt, you would need a Viacrypt CAM (or built-in Viacrypt decode), plus the subscription card to that specific channel. If you then also want channel ABC, which also requires Viacrypt, you just need the subscription card - unless you want to be able to watch both without swapping cards ....

You can get boxes with no CAM facility for watching just the free to air stuff

An awfully large number of the free channels are unwatchable cack, IMHO - unless either you speak Italian or Greek or you have a great appetite for unintelligible kitsch, though you can find some sports channels (where you don't really need to be able to speak the lingo to know that Team A (that you've never heard of) is beating Team B (ditto)).

IMHO - the channel selection on Sky is infinitely better, though again, the vast majority of the channels are rubbish - I tend to select from maybe a dozen channels, most of the time.

I got the hotbird kit, as the incremental cost of getting it, along with a multi-room Sky installation was fairly minimal (added about £100 of a £700 installation), compared with getting it installed later if I had decided to upgrade later.

To be honest, unless there are channels that you specifically want on there, I don't think I'd bother with it on its own. And knowing what I know now, I don't think I would have bothered with it, even as a 2nd set of channels.

[kirtonender9] 28/9/2003 20:44

How about a digital satellite receiver - to pick up all sorts of channels - free. A work colleague paid about £200 for a receiver and picks up far more channels that Sky provide and they are all free. Can't remember the websites giving more info - but a websearch should help.

[analyst] 28/9/2003 16:37

What channels do you want? If you don't want any Sky channels, then Freeview is an option in some areas.

(P.S. I live where there is no cable or Freeview or Channel 4 or Channel 5 !!
Guess where..)

[seela] 28/9/2003 11:53

I may be moving to an area where there is no cable service, so I will probably get satellite. Is Sky my only choice, or are there any other national satellite service providers?

[big vern] 07/9/2001 11:42

Down another 27 this am - good short for the spread bet

[big vern] 06/9/2001 17:07

Another cracking day. Excellent short

[the wah] 04/9/2001 10:52

big vern- looks like you're the one here! Try comparing it with the ftse 350.

[big vern] 04/9/2001 10:45

still going down - looks like I'm the one here !

[big vern] 20/8/2001 18:38

still on the down trend

[big vern] 09/8/2001 17:52

Trend looks poor and just broken 50mda
Where's dil for that chart ??
DYOR

[argy2] 02/6/2001 00:35

kayak

Thanks for that,very interesting.

Regards ARGY2

[hyper al] 01/6/2001 12:16

ARGY2

I have looked at satellite internet, you have to pay for the PC DBA card (about £230) then you have to pay about £15 a month to a specific ISP, then you have your telephone calls. I have decided to go for ISDN if you use dual channel you get 128K bandwidth both ways, I am going to replace 3 telephone lines with ISDN (only 2 lines) and the total monthly cost will be about the same.

I am very annoyed that ADSL is still only available in the major cities.

[howardmoss] 01/6/2001 11:56

hyper al
the basic rate ISDN or ISDN2 service is a good system if you can configure your modem to utilise both 64k channels at once , unfortnately most people can't. i've only met one person who has managed to get this working.

[kayak] 01/6/2001 11:25

ARGY2, have you heard of RADSL, a version of ADSL that works over longer distances (although not by much). Should be coming in in the next few months.

'RADSL - Broadband reaches the outer limits

To get ADSL service at present, potential consumers must be
located no more than 3.5 kilometres away from an enabled BT telephone exchange.
From June, this 'broadband zone' around exchanges will be expanded to more than
5 kilometres. It means that most premises will be included. On average, 90% of
subscribers' lines terminate within a 5.5 kilometre radius.


There will be no extra charge for the new service.


Difference: At first, the new ADSL service is likely to be restricted
to the 512Kbps USB single-user version, but the 512Kbps multi-user will be
launched, if not in parallel, then shortly afterwards. Customers living closer
to the exchange will, of course, still be able to order Zen's multi-user 1Mbps
and 2Mbps versions.


Terminology: The new ADSL service that breaks the 3.5 kilometre
barrier is known as RADSL - Rate Adaptive Digital Subscriber Line. It 'adapts'
according to line conditions. Most of the time, this should make no difference,
and service will be identical to that being enjoyed by neighbours living nearer
the exchange. There will be times when data leaving the computer could be
slower, but incoming speeds will be the same. Downloading files, viewing Web
pages and receiving e-mail will not be 'rate adapted'.


Technicalities: On current ADSL services, the maximum upstream
(outgoing)line speed is 278Kbps. With the new extended service, this line rate
will be dynamically 'adapted' to between 278k and 64kbps - depending on line
conditions at the time. Since the majority of traffic on ADSL travels downstream
(receiving files, viewing Internet pages etc) most users will notice no
difference.


Register: Be first in the queue this time. Orders and enquiries that
could have been turned away after line testing during recent months will be able
to pass pre-installation checks easily when the 3.5 kilometre barrier is lifted.
To register interest in Zen Internet's new RADSL service, and get the latest
information as soon as it's released, check "YES" when you complete our request
form here.


Horizons: Using the same form, you can also register an interest in
SDSL ('same speed both ways' Digital Subscriber Line). Zen Internet provided
some of the earliest ADSL installations in the UK when service first became
available in July 2000, and we expect to be leading the way with the latest
technology again as soon as SDSL is introduced, perhaps at the end of this year. '

[argy2] 01/6/2001 11:13

Hyper

Was to have adsl fitted only to be told last minute that not eligible!
Looked at ISDN,looks dear in comparison.More sense for you converting 3 lines to two.Are your phone bills excessive by using duel channel?

lightning...Thanks for that I'll look.

howardmoss...Not thinking of using via sky more a direct link from dish to PC for very fast download.I don't upload a great deal(I'm no techie so probably talking rubbish)but just looking for fast internet usage ie not so much waiting for sites to load etc.Isn't adsl same as broadband?As regards availability even when all BT exchanges are digital you still need to live within 3.5km as the cable lies,that's not far.I don't and don't see cable comong for years.

Any other views/experiences much appreciated.

ARGY2

[lightning] 31/5/2001 23:48

Don't know if this is any help



Its American but may be obtainable here. Worth asking anyway.