Premaitha Share Discussion Threads

[twix386] 06/7/2016 16:12

Ngen yap,

Your incisive commentary is always priceless - much like our share price which has an inverse correlation.

One day we'll find the bottom huh!!

[blackss] 06/7/2016 15:21

"Nothing has changed".....is the bloody problem :)

[thinkbig?] 06/7/2016 14:28

Are you real nothing changed lol it's hitting lower lows all the time.No contracts. Nothing concrete till 2017 That's over 12 months away who is going to wait that long.6.5p it where this is going

[twix386] 06/7/2016 11:43

absolutely hjb1

[hjb1] 06/7/2016 10:59

nothing has changed from yesterday, other than a waste of space has been jettisoned!

[thinkbig?] 06/7/2016 09:21

Not looking good

[hjb1] 06/7/2016 09:15

it does seem as if we are meandering aimlessly without the old rudder! I assume Genoma and all the hospitals are still selling and income is decent??

[blackss] 06/7/2016 09:10

It still amazes me the lack of PR all the same and now we have the inevitable drop as people "speculate" the reason.

[twix386] 06/7/2016 09:00

exactly. Rupert's man and probably shown the door after RL's selling and lack of good grace.

Good news and deserved imv

[hjb1] 06/7/2016 08:57

surplus to requirements I guess.No probs, one of Rupert's men, good riddance!

[blackss] 06/7/2016 08:27

I would like to have seen why this guy sold all his shares and picked up his coat in this RNS ?

[hjb1] 05/7/2016 10:41

that's my point there won't be a court case to pre judge! all sorted by the commission. Illumina have obviously got things to hide and let's face it nobody likes a big bully, especially one without any substance..or a patent!! lol.

[blackss] 05/7/2016 10:16

Yes but a decision before the court case would be pre judging the court which i doubt would go down well. If they can drag it out another couple of years we will not be an EU member state so the commission will not be bothered anyway :) but as you say, Who knows ?

[hjb1] 05/7/2016 09:47

if the commission comes down in favour of Prem, I don't think there will be a court case, maybe that is the plan,who knows?

[blackss] 05/7/2016 09:33

Thinking about it the commission could not rule anyway till after the court case. The commission could hardly say this is a delaying tactic then find the court says that illumina has a case.

[hjb1] 05/7/2016 09:16

I disagree! if Illumina think there is a big problem with the PPA (which seems likely)they won't let it drag on for another year because that's another 12+ months of claims they can/will be liable for..we will see, but it seems that maybe Prem are getting the upper hand here.. let's face it there have not been many/any successful court cases recently for Illumina...I believe they bought into SEQ patents that were, well useless it seems.. all imo!

[blackss] 05/7/2016 08:13

Exactly twix which is why i said yesterday

"Unfortunately they don't say when the commission is likely to come up with a decision. EU commision can run and run. i would be amazed if the commission beats the UK court case."

If they back down it will be just before the commission reports i would think. This has always been about holding up prem for as long as possible. Its not really about patents... that's why it was a bad move getting the courts put back till summer 2017, it plays into their hands

[twix386] 05/7/2016 03:03

question.

This new noted development - EU anti-competetive conduct.
If Illumina settled court case,they would still have the same EU investigation.
Settling would make no difference?

However, if damaging detail in PPA that may influence, but I don't yet see Illumina settling and if they ever did, probably the day/week before the hearing after maximum damage inflicted.

[frenchfry] 04/7/2016 22:54

I would suspect that the document which the court has ordered to be fully disclosed by Illumina is, rather like some of Mrs Clinton's e-mails, potentially toxic...for Illumina.
Reading the latest instalment, I really get the impression that the "English court" remains unimpressed with the Illumina case to date. Clearly the plaintiff has the right to have their day in court, but the judge is ensuring that the case will be heard with the benefit of full and frank disclosure.
If Illumina's established M.O. of serial litigation against competitors on the grounds of patent infringement is anything to go by, then what are the odds that the Pooled Patents Agreement document will contain a skeleton or two in the cupboard?

With the EU (even post Brexit) looking into potential anticompetitive conduct by the claimants and the massive penalties which could be imposed if found to be in breach, then this second Front which has opened up is very likely to focus the minds of the Illumina legal beagles, rather like a strong dose of smelling salts.

The prospect of a full-blown hearing next year have just become a lot less likely.
No further questions M'lord.

[gooosed] 04/7/2016 09:28

"The Court also ordered Illumina to provide an unredacted copy of a Pooled Patents Agreement ("PPA") to the Company's legal advisers, which Illumina had previously refused." anyone any thoughts on significance of Illumina's refusal ?

[blackss] 04/7/2016 09:19

Unfortunately they don't say when the commission is like;y to come up with a decision. EU commision can run and run. i would be amazed if the commission beats the UK court case.

[bobsworth] 04/7/2016 08:41

Nice one Premaitha!