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[jeffian] 25/7/2024 13:58

Ref the politics stuff, I can't see that the Lib Dem performance is any indication that the Tories should move in their direction. Surely they were just the lucky recipients of those who felt that they could neither support the Tories or Labour. The alternative (adopted by Mrs J) was a 'none-of-the-above' spoilt ballot paper. If you think that a right-of-centre party cannot attract majority votes, how do you explain the largest majorities achieved by Saint Margaret Thatcher and Boris's 2019 'get Brexit done' manifestos? Those policies were able to attract both traditional Conservative voters but also significant numbers of aspirational Labour voters. Would it be too much to ask them to go back and look at those and re-adopt policies that people actually want? (and, hopefully, this time implement them).

[jeffian] 25/7/2024 13:49

Mornin'all. Crikey you've been busy today.

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 12:20

Excellent Mikey.

[michaelg1] 25/7/2024 11:44

Barry - FYI

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 11:37

Aye, hopefully enjoying a few weeks in California with his awful Democrat brother and Sofia Loren.

[michaelg1] 25/7/2024 11:33

I think he was last seen talking about Pimms and Gin - I do hope teh bu%%er didnt decide to get up a stepladder when p1ssed up on that lot.

[monte1] 25/7/2024 11:29

Where is gra btw - is he dead again?

[monte1] 25/7/2024 11:28

I’ll bet that the majority that voted for them did so because they thought that they seemed ‘quite nice’, failing to notice that they are, in fact, dangerously unhinged lunatics and zealots.

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 11:22

True, although how anyone could vote for them is waaaaay beyond my comprehension.

[fireplace22] 25/7/2024 11:14

They had the great advantage of not being Tory or Starmer though, as did Reform, that's why they both did well. Reforms vote was in earnest, Lib Dems mainly protest.

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 11:11

The Lib Dem contingent in the commons is a disgusting disgrace and is entirely the tories fault.

A man whose campaign was nothing short of a loop of Noels house party managed to garner 60 odd seats is almost unfathomable.

[fireplace22] 25/7/2024 11:05

Staunch Labour voted for labour.
Middle of the road Labour voters, wouldn't vote for Starmer so voted Lib Dem.
Lib Dem voters voted Lib Dem.
Con voters stayed at home or voted reform, those who thought Reform had been nasty to the Tories voted Lib Dem.
Big Lib Dem gains without any real conviction.
Reform vote was conviction that's the difference.

[monte1] 25/7/2024 10:39

No. They believe that the Tories have moved so far left that they might as well give their vote to anyone who is at least open about their leftism instead of pretending otherwise. There are plenty openly left parties out there to vote for.
Not to mention the fact that they say one thing and then either do the opposite or nothing at all.

[fireplace22] 25/7/2024 10:30

They believe that, that's why Cleverly or Tugendhat will win.

[fireplace22] 25/7/2024 10:23

We had so many seats taken from us by the Lib Dems - proof that we are just too far right for the voters.

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 10:12

John
4m

Will there be a Tory Party to lead come the next GE?
I don't care - good riddance.

The fact is that the “conservative” party is just not conservative any more – Reform have spotted this and jumped into the gap.

There are some who are comforting themselves with the idea that this is some kind of blip or aberration and that defecting Tory voters will come loyally trooping back to the Tory "fold" like good little children who've been a bit naughty , but have now realised the error of their ways.

Well this is no mere protest vote , it is a realignment and has been coming for years.

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 10:01

Regarding Isle of Wight tomatoes, we had a pair of monster ones sourced from M&S last year, I have to 'say' they were the nicest tomatoes i've ever eaten.

[barry evans] 25/7/2024 09:59

2515 see 2510

[emigna2020] 25/7/2024 09:58

GB TV news is now 75% " membership only"

FFS get some advertising and stop the rot!

[emigna2020] 25/7/2024 09:52

The Manchester police spokesman is an " import"

No crossed lines on this investigation then?

No sign of pics of the 3 [police being injured, and hospitalised?

[elpirata] 25/7/2024 09:49

morning ye merry avatars

#2507 the 'Isle of Wight' tomato undoubtedly swings it for me

indeed I have noted an increasing propensity for eateries to hopefully impress by naming the source of teh ingredient on the menu ie madagascsn vanilla, hand dived isle of bute scallops etc, although I have yet to note any gastro produce sourced from blackburn, bradford or rochdale