Phoenix Share Discussion Threads

[zicopele] 11/11/2024 15:20

So now we are talking about down ticks. Oh man..great work work guys.

[theinquisitiveone] 11/11/2024 14:54

Hi tournesol

It's an interesting theory-and one I hadn't thought of. However, I think it's incorrect.

If you look on threads where there is a "demented downticker". EG, here...



...if you look back over the past several prior pages EVERY post is downticked EXCEPT post 21282 by Neilyb675 which is NOT downticked. I don't think the webcrawlers will downtick everything EXCEPT Neilyb675 posts. And that's the only thing a blue poster CAN'T do, ie downtick their own posts!!

In case you think that's a freak happenstance, you can go to this thread...



Again, if you scroll back there's pages of downticked posts but on post 250, lo and behold, the bold Neilyb675 has NO downticks at all.

The same happens on many threads, pretty much conclusively showing who's the culprit.

Of course Neilyb675 regularly says something that is genuinely stupid or annoying, so he gets ACTUAL downticks, which makes it harder to spot on some threads/occasions, but on the whole I think it's easy to see they're the one doing the downticking.

[mcunliffe1] 11/11/2024 14:40

I've also thought it's a 'bot' tournesol. Hadn't figured why but you may have it correct.
It's a weird world.

[spawny100] 11/11/2024 14:04

6195 it is a value trap if it also goes down in price a similar percentage Look at what has happened since November 2020 here. 781p to 493p = 36.9% decrease in 4 years. Or an average of over 9% per year. Ok you have reinvested dividends to take account of but dividends were not 9% when it was at 8 quid share price either

[theinquisitiveone] 11/11/2024 10:44

Agreed. I think the consistency of Neilyb675's downticking of EVERY post means that, ironically, it completely loses its value. People just think, oh, that moron Neilyb is just downticking everything in sight as per-so we can just mentally ignore the 1 downtick and equate it with being "0" downticks! It has definitely become null for me on any of his many downticked boards. Quite satisfying actually :-)

[williamcooper104] 11/11/2024 08:48

Yep - if you downtick everyone then you downtick nobody

[dosser50] 11/11/2024 08:45

In for a few more.

[netcurtains] 11/11/2024 08:25

Its not a value trap if it pays 9% dividend...

[gbh2] 11/11/2024 08:22

Got to smile when I visit this thread, at the pathetic person that pays a subscription to Red Tick every comment, what a sad life.

[montyhedge] 10/11/2024 19:31

Let's hope this not a value trap.

[alotto] 10/11/2024 15:31

Tornado, why do you say challenging times?

[williams66] 10/11/2024 14:20

Standard Life has released new adverts in November 2024. These ads focus on their life insurance products, highlighting the importance of securing your family's future and the benefits of their flexible policies. The campaigns emphasize real-life stories and testimonials from customers who have benefited from their services.Each of these products can be tailored to meet specific financial goals and personal circumstances. Standard Life Insurance team is determined to get the message out to the younger people start your pensions early to reap the benefits.

[netcurtains] 10/11/2024 11:19

alotto:
I heard numerous adverts for Standard Life on LBC Radio.
I seen numerous tweets for Standard Life on Twitter (X)
I seen and heard adverts on ITV.

Clearly (to me at any rate) Phoenix are pushing Standard life really
hard at present.
Historically this will pay good dividends.

[tornado12] 10/11/2024 10:14

10,9% yield very impressive with 7 year capital compounded return. Challenging times, but this reward is extremely tempting

[alotto] 09/11/2024 13:17

Promoting standard life how?

[netcurtains] 09/11/2024 08:06

Phoenix are currently spending a lot of money promoting Standard Life.
This will generate growth.
So growth AND big dividend.
I rest my case.

[watfordhornet] 09/11/2024 08:01

Thanks - will take a look

[jubberjim] 08/11/2024 17:32

I look at America and the calibre of the President they have just elected and I am going to stick with investing in stocks paying decent dividends here in the UK.

You can keep your growth stocks I have no interest but then I think I am living in the real world.

We have the tools but unfortunately at the moment that is whom we have elected and we have to deal with it as best we can.

I was hoping that this period immediately after the presidential election might have provided an opportunity but apart from Wood Group panic yesterday nothing showing up in the aftermath.

We have got the 'FUNK' and it shows. Wider market bereft of ideas and sense.

Plenty of blue funk there.


Good weekend See you Monday

[cherryandwhite1] 08/11/2024 17:14

Shorting is accounting for only 1.81%
Thats nothing to be concerned about.

[dope007] 08/11/2024 16:24

Can't wait for the DOW to pullback next week and the FTSE crash to 7500.....

[watfordhornet] 08/11/2024 15:46

What's the point in holding high divi stocks outside tax wrapper.Better to go for growth stocks and be subject to 24% CGT rather than 39% divi tax. Does not make sense that they are not aligned - profits paid out rather than kept within but gain is same but tax is differentAm I missing something?