Orosur Mining Share Discussion Threads

[wigwammer] 06/3/2015 19:09

Post 13719.So err err err.. orosur is worth zero.BigT20 - do you see the capability of the people selling here?

[richgit] 06/3/2015 18:42

As far as OMI is concerned,the Gold Market is going to be controlled by the
Physical Market when the new exchanges reach their mass .


The end of the Fraudsters` Casino dictating the price of Gold is coming and
OMI will be around.

The obscenely rich are not risking having their wealth in Yen.Euros,or $Dollars
and eventually that will be huge numbers trying to protect themselves from
Paper trash,and Bank Bailins.

[undergroundminor] 06/3/2015 17:54

The present value of its future cash flows to shareholders.
So without dividends, that means, err err err ...... zero.

[stardrops2] 06/3/2015 17:48

Off Topic

Big buys in AUE today first pour due soon then full production.Check out website for monthly presentations very good investor relations etc Advfn Thread a bit quiet but lots of good posts on LSE

Sorry for off topic

DYOR

[stardrops2] 06/3/2015 17:43

The hotelier was the first to pay off his dept of 100 Euros, come on guys think about it.

[wigwammer] 06/3/2015 17:26

Conspiracy theories aside, gold miners, especially unleveraged ones like orosur, have a value.The bears can repeat the market patter about why gold is falling - that's easy. But many precious metal miners already trade near/below prior troughs. BigT - what is orosur worth then?

[bigtbigt] 06/3/2015 17:01

No, not bankers

PoG runs with inflation and against interest rates. Both are low, so gold is stuck in a middle-ing price range. But expectations are for even lower inflation and (in the USA at least) a nudge up in interest rates. So gold is still likely to fall further - as it has today.

Investors need to see things as they are, not how they want them to be or are led to believe by conspiracy nuts ('gits'). No doubt manipulations take place, but such things only modify and do not fundamentally change the dominant trends.

[rhuvaal2] 06/3/2015 16:08

Bankers doing "their usual dump" being Friday afternoon.

[rhuvaal2] 04/3/2015 11:41

Perhaps I'll get one of their dumper-trucks for Christmas! or even a ride in one: for OMI will trundle on "nay bother"..... I have an exceedingly good fortune teller but unfortunately she doesn't do business things = a physicist and a barrister living in Moscow, manages total accuracy for around two years out.

[bigtbigt] 04/3/2015 11:32

stardrops2 - nice try. If only that were true

Your thesis depends on everyone owing money and being owed the same amount of money. Injecting money into the system temporarily would then, as you have illustrated, provide the mechanism to cancel all those debts.

The problem is, some people owe a lot and others are owed a lot. This is the reality, and your solution does not work in this situation.

The only way to solve this is to default on those debts, or increase wealth creation to make the debts payable (and pigs might fly)

On OMI - seems the ECG (SP) has flatlined. Patient dead

[richgit] 03/3/2015 09:35

Lol,



Yet of course the Hotel owner has now lost 100 as the prostitute has paid Him
what she owed with the 100 he thought He had - for a few minutes.

Unpaid Debt has a parking place somewhere,so don't be last in passing the parcel is the game

Plus the bankrupt will have to take their share of bailing out Greece,making them even more Bankrupt.

Pass the ever expanding weight of the debt parcel until nobody can even pick it up, and then the Music stops.

The Guys that have their 10,000 ounces of paid for Gold will be looking for the
point they can sell at any premium in the Physical Market to the Comex price, whilst replacing with a Comex contract and demanding delivery.(that`s the theory)

Whilst I am no expert on paper Gold,I guess that would be the point when
the expiry frauds wont work as well as planned-(assuming you would actually get the Gold and not forced to accept a $Dollar default.)

It would be a sight to behold the day they cannot force nearly everyone out on their assumed margin weakness when some would have no such fears, yet the day will come when some surprise event will hit them hard just after they have piled in the shorts to savage those expiries.

As they pile in more shorts to attempt to salvage the situation- another surprise event totally destroys some.

A AAA Bank facing bailins shows how nothing can be overlooked when they are pushing Paper Gold out beyond 100-1 leverage.

[stardrops2] 03/3/2015 00:51

Something to amuse ... this is how the Greek bail out works.

It is a slow day in a little Greek Village .
The rain is beating down and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.

On this particular day, a rich German tourist is driving through the village, stops at the local hotel and lays a €100 note on the desk, telling the hotel owner he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one to spend the night.

The owner gives him some keys and, as soon as the visitor has walked upstairs, the hotelier grabs the €100 note and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the €100 note and runs down the street to repay his debt to the pig farmer.

The pig farmer takes the €100 note and heads off to pay his bill at the supplier of feed and fuel.

The guy at the Farmers' Co-op takes the €100 note and runs to pay his drinks bill at the Taverna.

The publican slips the money along to the local prostitute drinking at the bar, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer him "services" on credit.

The hooker then rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill to the hotel owner with the €100 note.

The hotel proprietor then places the €100 note back on the counter so the rich traveller will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveller comes down the stairs, picks up the €100 note, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, pockets the money and leaves town.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole village is now out of debt and looking to the future with a lot more optimism.

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how the bailout package works.

[richgit] 02/3/2015 19:51

Elban

Look back to when the Gold pool collapsed,yet before that they flew in every
ounce they could beg steal and borrow.

They risk pushing the leverage in paper Gold far beyond 100-1 if they push
this to near 0 fractional Gold holdings-yet they are desperate as We witness
today with continuing bad economic numbers and yet a blatant manipulation of Gold & Silver.



This is why.............

"But the punchline, is that while the world was waiting for Greece to announce capital controls, or a bail-in over the past week, it was none other than one of the Europe's most pristeen credits (one which until recently was rated AAA/Aaa) that informed creditors a bail-in is imminent: "The finance ministry noted that creditors can be forced to contribute to the costs of winding down Heta - or "bailed in" - under new European legislation that Austria adopted this year so that taxpayers do not have to shoulder the entire burden."

[augustusgloop] 02/3/2015 10:56

The flaw in the argument of issuing 'paper gold' to keep the physical gold price down is:

Every paper gold contract has an expiry date - so every single ounce that was sold a year and more ago has already been bought back by the issuer.

So if selling these millions of ounces pushed the POG down - why didn't buying them back push the POG up?

Also, nobody ever made jewellery or industrial items with paper gold.
And investors that don't trust paper must buy physical.
So if the POG is too low why can anyone still get hold of as much physical as they want at the quoted price?

[rhuvaal2] 02/3/2015 10:01

Sorry ~ trembling finger syndrome :(

[rhuvaal2] 02/3/2015 10:01

As from Ukraine physical is likely being forced out from 'junior nations' with threats bribery or downright robbery..... one source of supply ?

[rhuvaal2] 02/3/2015 10:01

As from Ukraine physical is likely being forced out from 'junior nations' with threats bribery or downright robbery..... one source of supply ?

[richgit] 01/3/2015 21:31

It doesn't move whilst they can manipulate 100-1 immense leverage of paper Gold

Of course the whole thing exploded in the past when they simply couldn't get
their hands on enough Physical,so that is what will happen again.

To manipulate paper Gold you have to have Physical Gold.

The West has really gone too far with the assassination of Boris Nemtsov,and we
can Guarantee who the Chinese will side with.

Obama needs a strait jacket and the Victoria Nuland clones should be imprisoned
for treason and would be if ordinary US citizens realised what they are being
threatened with by these lunatics.

Some in the West need to grow some balls and tell the US..."We have had enough of your body bags,and risking Nuclear War for the agendas of your Psychopath War mongers is total insanity".

[fangorn2] 01/3/2015 20:44

@Rhuvaal2

I really dont know tbh.

Am surprised that Gold just isnt budging despite the trillions upon tillions of cheap paper being thrust upon the market. Asset prices have gone through the roof - the cost of livin has soared and bears nothing to the CPI figs for most ordinary people ( I dont buy a new electronic gizmo every other day)

CPI is 1% odd yet an off peak zone 1-6 travelcard for ONE DAY soared 30% on 1st January. Eh - that's nowhere near RPI+4% let alone RPI +10%.

Inflation is subdued - despite the trillions of paper money. Temp Labour/Low paid jobs are abundant.The Middle Classes are getting hollowed out.The Politicians wont be in the same bracket despite being serially incompetent.

Troubling times for many.

And yet Gold moves not an iota.

[rhuvaal2] 01/3/2015 20:11

What is your view then, Fangorn2 ?