Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[talkingtrade] 13/7/2017 08:30

See a few of my short buddies closing today...Traders in control...

[scotty1] 13/7/2017 07:59

It is if it turns back up,if it doesn't it isn't :(

[shrewdmole] 13/7/2017 07:57

Is that a triple bottom

[f3rdinand] 13/7/2017 06:29

Totally agree risky!!! The market at the moment is pricing OPTI at a level assuming no new contracts will be forthcoming. We've got a pill FFS that can reduce cholesterol- in high risk groups -comparably to Statins.The reason contracts are taking a while is because OPTI are in the driving seat and can stipulate their terms on the companies that have approached them! Anyone that thinks differently (on the other thread) needs a serious word with themselves!

[riskybusiness1] 12/7/2017 23:18

Parob - ab life as you listed have three strains whereas opti have one single strain specifically selected among thousands of lactobacillus species for its ability to hydrolyse bile salts. Starting at 4000 strains down to the three most efficient strains, all three of which have been patented. Lpldl clearly the front runner.This is without question cutting edge in healthcare let alone the probiotics market. These strains were selected following a patented process of selection using optiscreen. Since then opti have been building the evidence for this new science testing the strain from laboratory, then gut models and subsequently replicating these findings in human studies equivalent to a pharma phase 2. Great results across the board, however more significantly showing a 36% reduction in cholesterol in the sub group that began the trial with higher cholesterol levels. Also reducing blood pressure which is totally unique - two proven bio markers to reduce cardiovascular disease. LP-LDL is in another league to products like ablife and other probiotics. LPLDL is next generation as it has been specifically selected for its bile salt ability. This targeted approach makes it incredibly potent. It needs only 0.1g and of course using only 1 strain is far cheaper to supply. Ab life must be getting worried - how people think opti must be struggling to sign contracts is beyond me.Optis probiotic division using LP-LDLs unique specifically targeted ability can be used to target areas such as diabetes and other metabolic diseases not just cholesterol. When lp-gos and lpldl combine to form an optibiotic things will get very interesting. Big things ahead for the patient.

[john henry] 12/7/2017 23:14

Judi around 60p is the area where they normally stop selling. They allow the price to rise to around 70p then begin selling again. Like you say this has been going on for many many months. The Sp is fast approaching almost 2 years in this LT downtrend. During that time we have seen consistent selling from institutions. When that selling finally stops the Sp maybe able to make some upward progress.

[trotterstrading] 12/7/2017 22:50

It's a rotten market at present, the majority of retail punters on AIM are now traders rather than investors, collectively they dictate share price range and movement in the absence of game changing news (e.g. News which is significant enough to attract II's or a high volume of retail 'investors'). Personally I think SoH interviews are always top quality, in my opinion he is one of the best CEO's on AIM, but managing Shareholders expectations is an incredibly difficult job, over promise and risk undermining your credibility, under sell and you risk damaging the share price as PI's move on and traders take advantage. This is the tightrope SoH is walking at the moment. He wants PI's to know the end game is in sight and patience will be rewarded, but at the same time he's giving traders the green light to sell as those all imports contracts remain weeks/months away. Personally I'm relaxed because I believe in the products and Mgmt team (it helps that I've met them several times), I'm also braced for further weakness in the share price if it happens I'll try to take advantage as we wait for the conveyor belt of contracts to be finalised.

[elrico] 12/7/2017 21:58

Parob my old mucker...keep up. I told you weeks ago HLH were changing the cholesterol line for a new line with OPTI LP-LDL. I posted the email, price and shipping info to boot. I also speculated sales would hit the ground running due to existing sales volume be it with more than double the cholesterol reduction. Hence why HLH signed up for a 3 year contracts. SOH is down-playing the revenues as "moderate" though suspect this may be in part due to larger contracts in the region of £3-6m pa.

[judijudi] 12/7/2017 21:45

imho
There has been one for months. Never gone away
Get with the case JH
A lot of good news in the pipeline gonna catch him out though!!!

[john henry] 12/7/2017 20:53

Imho large seller in the market once again.

[neftanikoff] 12/7/2017 20:43

portrush, you are right, i am going to protest otherwise.
I think maybe you hit the mark with your revelation that you are a small holder here and that is why you can aford to be the way you are. I have a larger holding and therefore you will give me the courtesy of letting off steam when i see the the share price drip, drop every day. I have be wrong in my analysis of where the share was going and probably led by too many on here who have also miscalculated.
Now i am not slagging the company off per se, like TT has chosen to do on the other thread. He may have had in the region of 300K at one time and has only a trading pot left now, if you believe him. (His motives are unclear, he may be now talking it down so he can buy back again, who knows.)
I still think the company will deliver, but i am hacked off, rightly imo., with the lousy share price performance.
PS i dont expect people to like the honesty with which i write. The fellow lth on here much prefer to applaud other post's where such related articles are pasted or soh interviews are shown, all good, i understand.

[judijudi] 12/7/2017 20:11

Parob,
Good research that
But don't put your neck on the line
Your no good at that
:)

[portrush] 12/7/2017 19:56

Neftanikoff....I sit in the background, have done for many months, and read all the various comments with interest as I have a small holding here. I dunno, and no doubt you'll protest otherwise, but seems to me all you do is just slowly drip negativity into the mix.

[speccy1] 12/7/2017 19:22

I've found the best way to boost your flagging morale when the OPTI share price takes another meander towards 60p is to join the top-up brigade!

Instead of feeling glum at my £3,000 paper loss, I can feel happy that I've got another 3,402 really cheap, and ponder if I got them in time to count towards more free SBTX shares?

Slightly miffed that my purchase via HL is on NEX rather than LSE and showing as a sell when it was buy - as are all the early trades this morning. I always wondered who bought from NEX - didn't realise the big boys did.



Keep the faith ;)

[talkingtrade] 12/7/2017 17:31

Big 50k sell.Looks like big boys selling and small PIs soaking it up. Where are all.those large II investors that were promised???

[judijudi] 12/7/2017 16:23

Fill Yer Boots!!!

[talkingtrade] 12/7/2017 16:02

Overhyped by TW and management promises. Ohh. And a few blind bulls who are totally in.love with stock and can't see past their own BS.

[riskybusiness1] 12/7/2017 16:02

Good interview.. seems to me opti are getting pretty cozy with tata not just on slimbiome. As elrico pointed out the foundations and progress across all platforms are getting better and better. I have been in early doors with others such as someuwin and elrico and could walk away today with some decent profits and find that 'better opportunity'. To be honest I'd probably lose more by the time I found one and I would be highly surprised to find one with more genuine potential than opti. In less than 3 years listed on aim all platforms are progressing better than probably even soh could imagine. These companies don't sign for and pay 'six figure sums' for nothing. These are only the companies we know about and have provided routes to market already.Two high calibre commercial directors signed and begun work in march this year. The fact our first deal with hlh has replaced ab life a product that turns £6m a year gives you slight hint of value placed on the inferior products let alone one that allows you to market as reducing cholesterol by up to 36%. Distribution deals are made more quickly by the smaller partners as there is a much quicker decision process. We'll see the smaller/medium deals followed by the bigger deals coming through very soon from vitafoods. Surely this is understood as this is the case with distribution in general.

[talkingtrade] 12/7/2017 15:59

Summer low volume time coming up.Gonna get hit bad IMO. Only PIs and TW ramping has held this up.Timber time soon IMO.

[colinzeal] 12/7/2017 15:58

A few 'agreements' and 'deals' on a few thousand pills aren't going to set the stock alight.

It's completely overvalued at the moment and I think it'll sink further as meaningful news is some way off. All this talk of 'big news soon' etc has been dragging on for way too long and people have had enough.

I'm in for the long-term but I've not gone all-in at all.

If TW didn't hold so much stock (or if Adam Reynolds wasn't involved here) I think he'd be calling it a screaming short.

[talkingtrade] 12/7/2017 15:57

Sold all my long term positions while back.Now only trading position.Lost faith with management.Too many overhyped promises IMO.Big leg down soon IMO.to 40p

[rickyvee] 12/7/2017 15:55

talkingtrade, are you still invested here?