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NAS North Atlantic Smaller Companies Investment Trust Plc

4,140.00
90.00 (2.22%)
Last Updated: 08:30:01
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
North Atlantic Smaller Companies Investment Trust Plc LSE:NAS London Ordinary Share GB0006439003 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  90.00 2.22% 4,140.00 4,010.00 4,140.00 4,140.00 4,140.00 4,140.00 1,287 08:30:01
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Unit Inv Tr, Closed-end Mgmt 11.28M 2.15M 0.1605 257.94 541.98M
North Atlantic Smaller Companies Investment Trust Plc is listed in the Unit Inv Tr, Closed-end Mgmt sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker NAS. The last closing price for North Atlantic Smaller C... was 4,050p. Over the last year, North Atlantic Smaller C... shares have traded in a share price range of 3,420.00p to 4,240.00p.

North Atlantic Smaller C... currently has 13,382,290 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of North Atlantic Smaller C... is £541.98 million. North Atlantic Smaller C... has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 257.94.

North Atlantic Smaller C... Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
30/10/2022
05:59
Managed to add a few more at 3180p. I think I read they intended to restart share buyback soon assuming a takeover completed at the end of Oct.
chillpill
26/10/2022
17:06
Rates dropping, inflation might be rolling over, gas prices falling. I've been buying a few things including here.
loglorry1
17/9/2022
13:30
Energy key, agree, is the input to almost everything. But the gas price rise started before the Ukraine invasion, partly due to coming out of Covid, partly due to ill-advised ESG reduction in investment, partly due to China trying to switch from coal to gas.

The immediate price spikes would end on a return of Russian supplies (something currently looking unlikely), but the problem is longer term. We either use less energy for a given level of growth, which has been happening for some time, or we find a cheaper source of energy (nope), or we accept climate change acceleration and start back on coal. Or we wait 10 years for more nukes, the uranium for which would come from Russia & Kazakhstan - great.

On the flip side, I really do think China is due a major "return to mean" - so potentially a huge drop in metals, energy, resources demand. Whether you think that's going to be good for markets is another matter..

No question the price of energy - oil, rather than gas - strongly influences whether we're doing well or doing badly.

spectoacc
16/9/2022
17:56
At the risk of stating the obvious, its all on the gas curve me thinks and that is in a big way down to Ukraine outcome effect on Russia leadership, 1917 mk2 , etc
hindsight
16/9/2022
17:08
p/e compression indeed, some will see that and "e" fall too, big double whammy.
p1nkfish
16/9/2022
16:22
I think the BoE might (/should).

Thought some comments in here very interesting:
[...] (Edit - can't link, but copy/pasted the interesting bit).


Adobe down 24% in 5 days, on top of the falls [-40% from high] quoted from May 2022, and I thought this nailed it [from May]:


"In a note to investors in February, Richard de Lisle of the value-focused VT De Lisle America fund explained why a quality company such as Adobe looked susceptible to a further re-rating, even though its fundamentals looked “fantasticR21;.

“It has grown earnings at 19% on average for a decade and no doubt will keep going forever,” he explained.

“The stock is off from $700 to $500 [now $400], so it’s all priced in, right? Nope, it’s still on 50x trailing P/E [price-to-earnings], and in the 1980s you could get a 19% grower for 20x trailing. But the 1980s is where we’ve just referenced a 7.5% inflation rate.

“Sounds like a lot more P/E multiple falling still to be done here for the next few years. Earnings of more than 19% a year is a double every four years, so in four years’ time Adobe could be at the same price but on a trailing P/E of 25x if it can keep the good times rolling on.

“Not a bad outcome, but maybe not where you want to be?”


To save you looking it up, Adobe is $297 now. Yesterday's -16% on overpaying for an acqn, but I reckon the above comments fit a lot in the US.

spectoacc
16/9/2022
16:07
Next week could be bumpy if the FED and BoE (definitely a follower rather than a leader) have the bravery to go for a 1% and 0.75% raise respectively. Let's see.
topvest
16/9/2022
16:06
Yes, all very interesting. I am expecting another leg down in the markets sometime soon. To be honest though, I am slightly confused as to why its not happened already. I guess we could be nearer the bottom than we all thought. US markets still look overvalued though.
topvest
16/9/2022
16:05
Dollar earners where most costs are in $ are a little better.
UK HQ, earnings and most costs in $.
Growth area in utilities (it does exist).
Inflation pass through.
Capital light.
Subscription model.
Long contracts.
High switching costs.
Looking towards new global opps as ROW follows NA.
Network effects helping growth rate.

p1nkfish
16/9/2022
15:55
Indeed. Free money for the brokers when interest rates rise, but hit elsewhere. Banks have the added political angle.

Personally, I don't see many winners in a rising inflation/rising interest rate environment, coupled with a bear market. Dollar earners, so far, but the dollar is approaching bubble territory.

The old staples of utilities and tobacco now too over-geared and politicised. Real chance some of the big water co's could get in trouble IMO.

Some co's will be able to pass on cost increases, but that's to counter cost increases, by definition.. Wages, energy etc will all be on the rise.

No, I want a wider discount on NAS :) We're a long way from the despair stage on equities atm.

spectoacc
16/9/2022
15:49
brokers are normally a disaster in bear market. Banks do better with steeper yeild curve but loan defaults can kill them.
loglorry1
16/9/2022
15:41
Banks, and share brokers (AJB, HL) ought to do well, but "well" is relative - make easy millions on customer deposits, but hit in other ways.
spectoacc
16/9/2022
14:40
I can't think of anything untouched by rates but the extent matters a lot. High quality companies with pricing power should largely pass on cost increases. Companies with lots of cash will earn more on cash deposits. Companies with tangible asset backing should see that asset backing rise. Companies with large pension deficits might see these deficits erased with rising discount rates. Health care or legal claims busiesses not so badly affected.

I can't imagine stuff like MORE gets away but perhaps a lot in the price. I'm sure Mills was well aware that this was around the corner so lets hope he was well paid enough to be well positioned.

loglorry1
16/9/2022
13:06
Personally I'd want the discount to widen - know it's large, but always is. These markets haven't knocked it out further yet.

Would also be intrigued to know which industries are "..Unaffected by rising interest and inflation rates".. If you sell something, & employ people, you're affected.

spectoacc
16/9/2022
13:03
It is a relatively safe haven for the patient. Have held for quite a while and certainly won't be selling.

Other point is reference to restart of buybacks - possibly - so some floor on price by the company.

p1nkfish
16/9/2022
12:37
Expanding @p1nkfish's quote above:


"There is no question that the value is, once again, opening up in equity markets and it is therefore expected that further new investments will be made over the coming months. It will be important to emphasise industries which will be unaffected by rising interest and inflation rates. We do expect the market, as a whole, to weaken further but we would hope to outperform this trend given our conservative balance sheet and the likelihood of further uplifts from our private equity portfolio."

spectoacc
16/9/2022
12:29
Given all the macro stuff going on I consider NAS to be a safe hiding place. I have others too. I’d like to be doing more buys of my own if we get one more down leg from the macro.
steve3sandal
16/9/2022
12:16
Release today, comment "We do expect the market, as a whole, to weaken further........"
p1nkfish
08/9/2022
07:30
Agreed - very specific skillset with no obvious investing background. But if she is a challenging mindset, hopefullly the diversity of thought as well as gender is increased.
18bt
06/9/2022
17:21
Interesting new NED.
p1nkfish
11/8/2022
11:08
It's proof of pudding time for Renalytx. If they can sell it then it will be worth a fortune. If not the costs and death spiral will kill it. Too late now to reduce costs - it either works or not and if it works these costs will be a drop in the bucket.

I assume Mills has sized his position accordingly.

KidneyIntelXTM is designed to diagnose and improve clinical management of patients with Type II diabetes with fast-progressing kidney disease, in an effort to curtail the estimated $114 billion annual cost1 of chronic and end-stage kidney disease to the United States healthcare system. The diagnostic will use machine learning algorithms to assess the combination of predictive blood-based biomarkers, including sTNFR1, sTNFR2 and KIM1, in combination with electronic health record information, to identify progressive kidney disease. KidneyIntelXTM is being developed in close collaboration with the Mount Sinai Health System.

loglorry1
11/8/2022
09:40
needs to get a grip on costs at Renx, remuneration is enormous considering the loss-making nature of the operation at present.
c3479z
10/8/2022
13:23
Focus matters and no matter how good someone is there is a limit to how much a person can focus on at one time.
p1nkfish
10/8/2022
12:17
Renalytx is a tough one. The upside is enormous if it works as they say it does. It wouldn't surprise me if it came good but having said that the last funding round was a disaster.
loglorry1
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