Frighteningly - probably about right! |
God - making any profit will be illegal soon.
Suet |
Liebour cronies want the banks taxed according to the telegraph |
My view is lower NIM on lower rates. But UK bank valuations are absolutely pitiful |
I was just wondering the same - definitely a theme :- |
What did l miss all my banks shares down quite a bit today. |
May May go away come back September, is nearly here :) |
How does someone know about leeds " before it was definitely established that he had died, thanks to that 2021 legal notice in the Gazette, regarding his estate.
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your name isn't published on here is it ? |
Final div. Of 12p. Plus a bonus div to be paid send of AprilEx div March |
Will buy another. £40000 if they drop |
Just added 11347 |
Cheerio PF, thanks for the TA |
That's a pity polar fox. I'm off to US for a vacation (Florida) again, later this week and would love to know which part of the US you visited.
During Mon-Fri I like these threads for the enlightenment provided in respect of investing (or not, in the case of NatWest for me). But 'out of hours' they can be quite sociable.
Enjoy your post-free future. 👍 |
All the best for the future polar fox - after nearly 25 years posting here, I doubt I'll be far behind you. |
I haven't posted in a while, having been on a very enjoyable US vacation break, during which I have given some further thought as to whether I should give up this last-remaining of my posting threads on ADVFN. The answer is 'yes', for all kinds of reasons.
By posting this now, I want to avoid the confusion which followed leeds going MIA in late 2020, during the second lockdown, before it was definitely established that he had died, thanks to that 2021 legal notice in the Gazette, regarding his estate.
Lots of good luck to all holders in NatWest. I remain L/T bullish based on the inverted H&S pattern - the neckline extension on my 10-yr chart was exactly at 309 on the 5th, when the share price dropped sharply to that level and held. The market appears to be trading the pattern, judging from the subsequent rally to 350 on Friday.
To sum up, with this post my public involvement with ADVFN has ended. Adios. |
The cfd short divi charged would have to be paid by the sb company to the owner of the underlying shares that they borrowed to sell i beleive eg stock on loan still pays divi to the owner |
profits from the company is used to pay dividends, lets call this pot 1
on the ex div date you see your share price go down by the dividend amount, so you have lost that money in the share price, so you make nothing until the share price recovers.
If you have short positions which are CFD's, in essence you make money because the price has dropped but they take the dividend amount out of your account so you also do not make any money so there is a pot of money here lets call this pot 2
People who have long CFD positions are paid on the ex date and not the dividend date and they get given the dividend amount instantly, but the share price has fallen by the same amount, lets call this pot 3.
There are three pots of money, pots 2 and 3 dont have to cancel each other out so where does that money go,
are you with me now ? |
The point is, money from the company is paid as a dividend, physical profit, actual money not a price figure, and if money from the shorter's or borrowers is paid as a dividend then why dont we get two dividends.
We dont get two dividends, there is another swapping of money going on that's independent of the actual dividend, this is what i'm referring to. |
they've borrowed those shares to sell so of course they should pay divi to the owner |
yep they always take the dividend off the share price at ex div day, I dont know why it works that way any one share a light on it as the money is supposed to come from the company and not the shorters, as the shorters pay out the dividend and the longs get paid it so that would look like they give the longs the money but the money is supposed to come from the company itself ? so why the share price drop. |
Ex div at close today 6p |
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