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[utyinv] 12/6/2019 10:41

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[willoicc] 12/6/2019 10:13

The problem is we buy too many imported goods and do not support UK industry.

That is why there is an increasing loss of real jobs.

Making pizzas is for people who have no money enslaving themselves to feed people with money who are too idle to cook for themselves. It is not creating wealth.

[willoicc] 10/6/2019 10:10

It is all very well accusing people of being too lazy to get out of bed and look for jobs, especially if you are in a high paid job yourself.

The trouble is a lot of so-called jobs are little better than slave labour. You only have to read about conditions in Amazon's warehouses to know that. Making pizzas is like working downstairs in Upstairs, Downstairs.

The even bigger problem is that real jobs that add to the UK's wealth are being exported to low pay countries eg car and steel production.

There is a lot of Marie Antoinette thinking in the UK.

I would suggest that the Remain/Leave divide is very much the same as the Rich/Poor divide.

How many posters on here own a car built in the UK, ie how many people on here support UK industry to provide jobs for that 'lazy' crowd?

[ianood] 09/6/2019 18:23

Agree with this postfrom SHA board:

henryatkin9 Jun '19 - 15:34 - 94862 of 94873
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With how badly Tories have done with brexit Labour should have won Peterborough by thousands of votes rather than hundreds. And what a laughing stock Lib/Dems have turned out to be.

In my opinion Rory Stewart is a vote loser - kiss of death at a G/E. He just looks weird. I know that shouldn't matter but it does. That apart he won't get us out of the EU because like May he wants to negotiate which will be the final death nail for Conservative Party if we are not out of the EU by the next G/E. Gove not only looks weird & wants to further negotiate brexit but is a coke sniffing weirdo which doesn't go well with Tory members so he's also out. The new leader must be able to kick the chair from under Farage with a fast track brexit but none seem to have that ability.

A lot of 2010's twenty somethings are now thirty somethings who have seen Tories transform Labours disastrous economy. They have handed in the student union cards to become house owners on decent wages and are aware of mortgage interest rates and how important the economy is to them. The next government is for the Tories to lose rather than Labour's to win

Blair & Cameron showed that a bit of charisma & having a young family can win elections. Not much around at the moment with old farts like Corbyn, May & Cable, though they are all on their way out one way or another.

Here's my prediction: Boris wins the leadership, can't get the brexit he wants through Parliament, complains to the public, so has a quick G/E and wins an outright majority. Time will tell.

[bountyhunter] 09/6/2019 12:25

Uty, agree re the BBC and that's exactly why I object to being forced to pay a hefty licence fee unlike with any other broadcaster. Bolton can also be biased in his coverage on Sky but at least I'm not forced to pay for that!
Looks to me as if Hunt or Borris will be the next Tory leader although Hunt's views seem similar to TM so in his case there could well be a continuation of kicking the ball down the road.

[utyinv] 09/6/2019 10:36

Andrew Marr should be sacked without pension rights! Listening to him this morning interviewing Esther McVegh has confirmed he is using his show to promote Marxist Doctrine.

His politics need to be confined to the red flag brigade those who believe in the something for nothing philosophy, the envious who are bitter of those that have worked for their wealth and success, they all should preferably be thrown out of this Country and join like minded Marxists in Venezuela.

[utyinv] 08/6/2019 10:28

Oh boy medals for services rendered :

Chairman of Ofgem David Gray, rewarded by TM ( Prime Ministers List)for screwing NG by being awarded an OBE.

[baztea49] 07/6/2019 17:19

At the Euro elections 2 weeks ago Liebor were boasting that the remainers added up to more than the Brexiteers. Brexit Party+ Cons.last night wiped the floor with Remainers.Labour got 30% of a 48% turnout ie 1 in 12 voters.Jeremy Corbyn is in a place he never expected to be and has not a scooby what to do next.He is over promoted by a country mile.

[utyinv] 07/6/2019 16:56

Also, again on BBC bias; the Peterborough by-election shows Labour wining narrowly pushing the Brexit Party into second place and highlighting the Conservatives in third place. But if you look at the results Labour had thousands and thousands more votes in the last election. If Boris or Rabb take us out of the eu ( I am a remainder but accept the will of the people to leave the eu), though some of Brexit’s votes came from Labour the majority came from the Conservatives and if you reflect that into the equation in a post Brexit UK you don’t need a PHD in Mathematics to realise that the seat could be won by the party who rewards hard work and one that believes everyone should be encouraged to be successful and independent ie the Conservative Party! IMO only 👍

[utyinv] 06/6/2019 10:25

The more Labour politicians open their mouths the less concerned I am about their threat!

Thornbury the other day was very critical on Trump as was Corbyn. Rather than being Statesmen like they snubbed the President of the USA. Whether you like Trump or not you don’t snub the President of the most powerful country in the world. Americans won’t like that!

Also, talk about the BBC being institutionally Left Wing is an understatement. Last week Corbyn came out with another leaked document regarding home owners and the proposal to replace Council Tax with a penalising Property Tax. Apparently, the tax would be severe but will not affect Tenants and those that live in Council property. ( errrr what do they think Landlords would do if the burden was on the Landlord?). Yet nothing was published on the BBC

Yet, again another fact that the BBC have not published widely:

Corbyn’s son so against Capitalism ( who worked with MacDonnell as an advisor) decided to buy an ex Council Flat in London ( like Council houses, Housing Associations are allowed to sell their properties to tenants on the cheap which Maggie Thatcher implemented). He bought it for £162.5k and did it up with his mum’s money (Corbyn’s wife) and now rents it out at an extortionate rate on airbnb How hypocritical!!!!! See article below:

[newbank] 05/6/2019 14:19

loganair,

You are right, as many including UtyINV has noted before. However, it doesn't stop the younger generation from ignoring or being ignorant of history because they weren't taught what happened in the 1970's due to the Teachers / Lecturers prefering not to teach and warn against the economic mess created by the Left Wing of that time.


In the Tony Blair days there was a new Baby Boom built up on credit and debt ie what the state can give you for free. Those babies are now aged between 9 years old and 27 years old many of whom don't know the meaning of hard work.

[utyinv] 03/6/2019 09:56

Must admit though, this rise is surprising as there is no further reason to hold NG until Nov as there isn’t any more qualifying dates before the shares go ex-divi at the end of Nov for the interim in Jan

[utyinv] 31/5/2019 15:35

M100,

My only fear is that it could be a dead cat bounce.

If Boris gets to be PM, Dom Grieve has gone on record to say he along with many remain MPs would vote against the Gov in forcing a no confidence vote. This then would force a GE and the rhetoric and focus on Utilities will be in the news dampening sentiment.

[dfoc] 31/5/2019 15:20

Thank you very much Salvor.

[salvorhardin] 31/5/2019 15:06

National Grid is mentioned in just two sections of the Daily Telegraph article. I've cut and pasted them below:



"It has not been a great few weeks for dividends: Royal Mail and Vodafone have both announced cuts. One popular income fund, the £1.2bn M&G Dividend, is changing its strategy in an attempt to limit the damage in the event of further cuts.

The changes follow Michael Stiasny’s appointment as manager in February. Here he tells Telegraph Money how he avoids firms that cut their payouts and why he wouldn’t sell National Grid if it were nationalised.


Would you sell national grid if Jeremy Corbyn got to no 10?

National Grid yields around 5.8pc. Everyone focuses on its UK business because of concerns around potential nationalisation, but it actually has a business in America as well. People are missing that.

It’s trading at a significant discount, which takes into account those concerns. Even if it were nationalised there is good reason to believe the share price could actually rise because of the US arm.

[dfoc] 31/5/2019 14:45

£1.2bn income investor: 'A Corbyn administration wouldn't make me sell National Grid.

Does anyone have the full article from the Telegraph, it's in the premium view only.

[m100] 31/5/2019 14:37

Eight weeks of daily rises like this and it'll be nudging 12 quid

[gateside] 31/5/2019 14:26

I take it today's opinion poll with Lib Dems 1st and Brexit Party 2nd with Corbyn languishing on just 19% is having a good boost on NG. & other utilities.