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In the recent investor discussions on ADVFN regarding National Grid Plc (NG), a noticeable sense of disappointment emerged around the stock's recent performance. User "fludde" encapsulated the sentiment with the remark that the recent price fluctuations were "p-poor," indicating frustration among investors about the lackluster movements in the stock price. This frustration may be reflective of broader market conditions or company-specific challenges that have not been clearly addressed.
Meanwhile, "bountyhunter" drew attention to an upcoming BBC1 program titled "Panorama - Rewiring Britain: The Race to Go Green," which may resonate with National Grid's initiatives in sustainability and green energy. This comment highlights a growing interest in the company’s efforts towards eco-friendly initiatives, although investor sentiment currently appears to be overshadowed by concerns about stock performance. Overall, discussions hint at a cautious investor outlook, with deviations from expected performance leading to skepticism about the stock's future trajectory.
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In early February 2025, National Grid PLC reported two significant updates concerning its corporate governance and shareholder structure. On February 5, the company released details regarding transactions by its Non-executive Director, Earl Shipp, concerning the 2024/25 interim dividend scrip alternative. This notification complies with the Market Abuse Regulation, ensuring transparency in managerial activities and transactions.
Additionally, on February 3, National Grid provided an update on its total voting rights, stating that as of January 31, 2025, the company had 5,132,617,708 ordinary shares, of which 240,401,592 were held as treasury shares. This leaves 4,892,216,116 shares with voting rights, which shareholders should use for compliance with the Financial Conduct Authority's Disclosure Guidance and Transparency Rules. These announcements reflect National Grid's commitment to regulatory compliance and shareholder communication.
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Even 'working properly', windmills are intermittent, so virtually fa use on a power matching grid. |
i see we are importing even more power from abroad,so even if they get these wondrous windmills to ever work properly surely the amount of power needed in the future will never ever come from them as electricity is supposed to take over from fossil fuels..? |
The cost difference between overground to underground must be significant, but when it comes to doing maintenance, upgrades and any repairs overground has clear advantages, you can see the problems and get to them to carry out fixes..Expect slow and steady growth, and we are here for years to come of safe reliable progressive dividends.. |
MPs push back against anti-pylon lobbying despite local opposition |
anhar; |
For those who noticed a pattern that it always drops at a certain time, then short the f out of it and get very rich very quickly. Only try that and you'd likely find it rises when you do! |
Quite right. Pro traders in big caps like NG., whether in the US, UK or elsewhere, are interested only in making money and are entitled to trade how they wish towards that end. The idea that "yanks" sell the share down out of some sort of conspiratorial personal animosity towards it is ludicrous. |
US traders will trade on their daily indicators ... moving into and out of utilities if sentiment is positive or negative on that day, which is why you'll see a move at lunch. If there's a massive conspiracy to dump on NG at lunchtime and you believe that ... then your strategy should be to buy puts every morning and sell in the afternoon. You don't do that because it doesn't work. |
absolutely right Uty. The behaviour is accentuated when the US is only 4 hrs behind us rather than the normal 5, ie New York Time. In the spring they go to Summer time around early March (this year 10th March) and back one hour early Nov (this year 3rd Nov). We follow the EU change of clocks, last Sunday in March - forward last sunday in Oct, back. |
anhar, |
Must be sheer coincidence that the share price falls after the US market opens ;) |
Of course there is something you can do about it. I've already sacrificed the goat but I'm still on the look out for the virgin. |
Nonsense. Almost all share price moves are random for big caps like NG.. |
Yanks at it again. |
Nice litte drop here for some more shares |
Uty, yes a different company now (or soon), which has probably escaped journos. There seems to be to me a hell of a lot of similarity with what ng. has just done during its cash raising - projecting situations well into the future to ease transition to net zero. Unless I'm missing something, Neso are now going to largely repeat that exercise (with another few buzzwords like 'spatial'). Whatever, I see neso having many more consultants pulled in (probably now surplus to ng. after the fund raising projections). Who's paying for those? (Not that Neso's costs are anything to do with ng.). |
Phil, |
Energy ministers have asked the National Grid operator to produce the first-ever strategic spatial plan for energy across the UK’s land and sea. |
Hampstead is the deepest underground station in London. Late in the evening, however, residents can still occasionally hear the rumble of trains as they lie in bed. It's a reminder of the world that exists underneath the capital and the country as a whole. Tubes, gas pipes, sewers, water mains, electric cables and telecommunication lines all stretch below our feet.One of the biggest infrastructure projects currently under way in the UK is the London Power Tunnels programme. Run by National Grid (NG.), it involves rewiring the city's ageing electricity system via a series of new tunnels buried 40 metres below the surface. The project started back in 2011 and is expected to cost around £2bn in total. The stakes are high, therefore but for National Grid, it's just one of the challenges on the horizon. In May this year, the utility giant announced £60bn of investment over five years to upgrade and expand the power grid in England and Wales (as well as to bolster its US assets). The capital expenditure plan is far larger than analysts had expected and is nearly double that seen over the prior five years. Investment in the grid is increasingly urgent. Electricity demand in Great Britain is expected to be 50 per cent higher by 2035, with electric vehicles and heat pumps proving particularly burdensome. Artificial intelligence could add to the strain; analysts at UBS expect data centre usage to rise from 2.8 per cent of European electricity demand today to 8.4 per cent in 2030. There is another problem, too. National Grid is rewiring the network to accommodate more power from renewable sources, such as wind. This is needed to hit the government's goal of a net zero grid by 2030. Unlike dirtier forms of power, though, renewable energy tends to be generated in remote areas often offshore in the North Sea. These new sources of supply need to be connected to cities and towns."It is the biggest build-out of the networks since Victorian times," says National Grid chief executive John Pettigrew. "Most of our networks were built in the 1960s when they were transporting energy from the north of the country, where the coal mines were, to the south of the country, where most of the population was. Now we need to rewire Britain so energy is coming from offshore wind in the North Sea and the Celtic Sea."Read more from Investors' ChronicleWhy watchlists could be investors' secret weaponCore holdings from the 'sin', technology and investment trust sectorsYou don't have to be invested in China to care about the market rallyHow to solve London's housing shortageExisting infrastructure isn't robust enough to support these changes. Bottlenecks in the grid mean electricity from northerly wind farms sometimes cannot reach areas of demand. As a result, wind farms are paid to stop generating electricity, while power stations are paid to produce electricity closer to where it is needed.Battery storage providers have also been frustrated at National Grid's infrequent use of their technology. A representative of National Grid's electricity systems operator the oversight business sold to the government in a deal that completed this month told the FT in September that outdated computer equipment and cable shortages were partly to blame. An investment opportunity Tackling these issues won't be cheap. However, National Grid doesn't operate like your average company. It is a monopoly whose returns are determined, largely in advance, by energy regulator Ofgem. Rather than hurting profits and breeding uncertainty, therefore, the group's huge investment programme has transformed its growth prospects.Before digging into this, though, it's necessary to understand what National Grid actually does. At its simplest, the company makes sure electricity is transported safely and efficiently from where it's produced to where it's needed. Its main focus is transmission, which involves moving?electricity at a high voltage through a network of pylons, overhead lines, cables and substations. The company has over 7,000km of overhead power lines across England and Wales enough to stretch from London to Miami. The distribution business is smaller, and involves moving electricity at a lower voltage from the grid to customers. It serves people in the Midlands, South West and South Wales.National Grid's revenue comes from us, the customers. In everyone's electricity bill, there is a small charge roughly £20 a year that covers the cost of transmission. National Grid also charges about £100 a year for distribution in the areas it serves.The more complicated question, however, is what drives these revenues. The amount of money National Grid can make primarily relies on the size of its infrastructure network or its "regulated asset base". This is roughly calculated by taking the value of the assets at privatisation, plus all the money that has been poured in since then, minus depreciation. Ofgem then determines what level of return the company can make from these assets, taking into account the cost of debt and the cost of equity. The calculations are complicated, but the core idea is simple: the more National Grid invests in the network, the more it can earn (in the UK, there is another tailwind too the asset base is indexed to inflation). In theory, therefore, National Grid's investment push should increase its earning power. Its asset base is expected to swell from £63bn this year to £100bn by FY2029, representing a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of around 9.5 per cent. Analysts at Bernstein are forecasting that operating profit will grow even faster in the same period. "National Grid offers exposure to multi-decade growth in electricity networks in stable and well-regulated markets, providing excellent earnings visibility," HSBC analyst Charles Swabey concludes. Schroders fund manager Ashley Thomas agrees, stressing the group's "secure and transparent" growth profile. These enhanced growth prospects are not necessarily reflected in the share price. There are a variety of ways to value the company but, given its presence in both the UK and North America, many analysts favour a sum-of-the-parts approach. JPMorgan, for example, says given the structural opportunities the UK network should be valued at a 40 per cent premium to its regulated asset base, and values the US infrastructure at 1.4 times its current worth. As such, it has a target price of 1,200p for March 2026, up from today's price of around 990p.The stock looks reasonable from a price/earnings (PE) perspective too. National Grid has traded on an average forward PE ratio of 15 times for the past five years, but now attracts a multiple of just 13.6 times. Given its rapidly expanding asset base, this discrepancy seems unjustified. Glitch in the systemNot everything is set in stone. A shortage of trained workers and supply chain hold-ups could hamper National Grid's investment plans. Meanwhile, Ofgem still has the power to cause problems."Given the expected step-up in UK transmission capex, the crucial unknown is the regulatory framework that will underpin regulated assets growth and returns," says HSBC. The current regulatory period ends in March 2026, with a new five-year regulatory period starting the following month. For now, though, the signs are positive. Last year, for example, Ofgem introduced the term 'investability' in a consultation to "recognise the scale of investment required in coming decades". In July of this year it also expressed an early view on the returns National Grid should make in the next regulatory period. This was largely as expected, with Ofgem guiding for a return on equity of 5.43 per cent for the UK transmission network. More negotiations will follow. "You have seen some regulators shift from being purely focused on minimising the cost to the consumer to also thinking about how we allow the energy system to decarbonise, and what we actually need to do from a grid perspective," notes BlackRock fund manager Alastair Bishop. For investors, though, there is another fly in the ointment. One of the ways that National Grid raised money for its £60bn capex plan was through a £7bn rights issue announced in May. This took a lot of the pressure off the balance sheet, which was looking strained, and paves the way for higher overall profits in the future. However, it also swelled the share count by roughly 30 per cent. Earnings growth on a per share basis looks muted, therefore and National Grid's own forecasts should be taken with a heavy pinch of salt. The company expects underlying earnings per share (EPS) to grow at a compound annual rate of 6-8 per cent between financial years 2025 and 2029. However, by starting the guidance from 2025, the management team has avoided showing the impact of the elevated share count. Deepa Venkateswaran, head of European utilities at Bernstein, calculates that if an undisturbed EPS figure for 2024 were to be used instead, the compound annual growth rate will only sit at between 2.8-4.3 per cent. Accounting for bonus shares issued in 2024, this growth figure climbs to 5.1 per cent. These numbers are lower than the 6-8 per cent EPS growth achieved in the previous five-year period and lower than the forecasts communicated by the company, Venkateswaran concludes. The rights issue also impacted National Grid's famously reliable payouts: the dividend has been rebased from 58.5p a share down to 45.3p a share. It is set to start growing again in line with inflation from next year, under the same progressive policy as before. The dividend hit suggests there has been a strategic shift towards growth at the expense of income but many are unfazed by this. "It remains a classic income thesis," says Tommy Kristoffersen, fund manager at EdenTree Investment Management. "But instead of it being a wobbly, risky income thesis, it's underpinned by this £60bn capex plan which, in turn, is underpinned by a government that knows that it's necessary to support renewable expansion."Schroders |
National Grid walking a tightrope, says BerenbergNational Grid (NG) is trying to balance its investment obligations with shareholder returns, which will limit its dividend growth, says Berenberg.Analyst Andrew Fisher retained his 'hold' recommendation and reduced the target price from £11.50 to £10.70 on the Citywire Elite Companies AAA-rated energy network, which firmed 7p to £10.15.The group has a five-year £60bn capital spending plan that demonstrates 'the unequivocal need for network investments to underpin the energy transition', said Fisher.'However, we think that a balancing act is required between investment obligations, leverage and shareholder returns, which is further complicated by some regulatory unknowns,' he said.'The regulatory backdrop in the UK and US is generally supportive, acknowledging the magnitude of investment that is required.'Fisher said 'some pieces of the puzzle are missing', such as Ofgem's transmission price controls that are due to be finalised in December 2025, and are important given he expects leverage to increase over the next five years.'Unless Ofgem's regulatory settlement is better than expected, National Grid's leverage looks set to limit its dividend growth to the rate of inflation for the foreseeable future, muting its shareholders' participation in the group's expected five-year 10% asset compound annual growth rate and 6% earnings per share compound annual growth rate,' he said. |
Having been invested in NG forever my remaining holding sold ahead of what will be around a 25% dividend cut. A series of markdowns by analysts. There are better income prospects and share price progress to be had elsewhere. If there is another correction to the £8s I will be accumulating again. |
Its the US hedge funds. They are quite ignorant at how utilities work, exacerbated by the news that the Gov is buying the ESO. |
It can't even hold 1000p so any improvement would be welcome. |
Type | Ordinary Share |
Share ISIN | GB00BDR05C01 |
Sector | Combination Utilities, Nec |
Bid Price | 977.80 |
Offer Price | 978.20 |
Open | 981.40 |
Shares Traded | 7,248,502 |
Last Trade | 16:35:28 |
Low - High | 973.20 - 986.20 |
Turnover | 19.86B |
Profit | 2.29B |
EPS - Basic | 0.4681 |
PE Ratio | 20.89 |
Market Cap | 48.06B |
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