Minoan Share Chat (MIN)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Minoan	LSE:MIN	London	Ordinary Share	GB0008497975	ORD 1P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	-0.125p	-1.41%	8.75p	8.50p	9.00p	8.875p	8.75p	8.875p	110,056	15:13:32

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure	7.3	-2.3	-1.2	-	18.50

Minoan Share Discussion Threads

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21/7/2017 23:35	Pink foot, I notice you have only been registered with ADVFN for about a year with Pinkfoot name and only posting about MIN since the 11th July this year. In that time all your posts have a subtle negative tone to them and in some not in the least subtle. Most other posters here have been around considerably longer than that and have a good understanding of the story although views differ naturally on both the past and way forwards and what value there is in MIN for it's shareholders be it short term or long term. In the interest of clarity have you only been posting on ADVFN for a year or were you posting under another username before ? How long have you been following the MIN story and are you a holder if not would you like to tell the BB what your interest is ?	yorgi	Read Full Thread Reply
21/7/2017 23:21	Thank you Daicaprice :-) It is baffling I agree but I hope we will have a much better idea by the end of next week.	yorgi	Read Full Thread Reply
21/7/2017 21:45	Hi Read the posts today.I don't think the earthquake has anything to do with Minoan to be honest.I do think what is needed is firm news on Crete in terms of strategy-this is no different to any property development and there are a number of variables which need to be resolved.I think a land deal to a specialist developer is most appropriate.This will take some time in my view as there wil be a lot of DD to run through.I therefore don't expect a quick deal. The travel side should be more interesting next week.Cash is clearly still tight but I would hope to see a solid margin on increased sales with some commentary on taking the sales to a much higher level. On a positive note,Greece appears to be back in fashion in the financial markets which should give some comfort to any potential buyer of the Crete asset.Maybe the company's luck has changed.	pinkfoot1	Read Full Thread Reply
21/7/2017 21:19	Nice post yorgi, it is baffling how now we have outline we are still sitting down here. It will all happen but as usual they will freak the weak out I'm afraid. DC	daicaprice	Read Full Thread Reply
21/7/2017 21:06	Catching up here and like other long term holders and followers on MIN disappointed to see where the share price is with us now having outline planning permission on the Cavo Sidero site. It is easy to criticise from the outside not knowing all that is going on between the BOD and parties interested in having a part in the development of the site. I'm sure Scotty is right there is plenty going on behind the scenes. I did wonder if todays news about the earthquake effecting Kos and other areas of Turkey Greece and Turkey might have had an effect on our share price in relation to our travel side of the business. Although I'm not making light of the loss of life or damage there was to some areas listening to Simon Calder on the PM programme Radio 4 this evening it does not look like it should have much effect on our travel business or the travel industry in general. So I am not concerned about it as far as MIN goes. Anyone who is interested I'm sure they will be able hear what Simon Calder had to say on PM from the Radio 4 website. Basically where the hotels are on Kos is not the area that was most effected and flights are continuing as normal was my understanding. It is also only one small area for the travel business on the whole. Getting back to the SP/Market Cap and where we are. We should have results out this coming week with hopefully some detailed and substantial news on how our BOD are going to take Cavo Sidero forwards. As long as the results are not poor and there is no reason to suspect they will be then they should give a good idea as to what value can be attributed to that part of the company. If I suggested something in the order of £8m which I would have thought is conservative that is leaving our CS project with a value of something like £10m for a plot of land covering over 6,000 acres in a most beautiful part of Crete. Quite frankly absurd in my opinion or as Scotty has posted a M/C way to low. So whatever way our BOD take the project forwards it's intrinsic value has got to be considerably more than £10m. I think some years ago it was valued at something in the order of £80m but I have not dug back to find the source but that could be wrong. What I'm certain of today it is worth a lot more than £10m, would £20m £30m be nearer the mark or more I don't know but still more than where we are now. We will have to be patient a little longer to hear what way CS is going to be taken forwards but it is hard to see that there is a risk of much downside in the share price from this level and reason to expect on the long awaited news a decent rise from here. Atlantic like Scotty and myself have been following this story for a long time, too long probably so I can understand Atlantic's sometimes frustrated tones coming from his posts. Despite the very disappointing share price I feel sure we have much better to look forwards to at MIN over the coming days, weeks and months. A reminder for those that want it or for those looking here for the first time here is a bit about the Cavo Sidero site from the Minoan website : Crete » Minoan Group Plc’s operations in Greece currently centre on the development and subsequent operation of what we plan to be a new landmark for tourism in Greece. The project will include a number of small to medium sized hotels of extremely high standards, both in terms of the service offered and environmental credentials. It is the Group’s intention that the development and operation of the Project will be undertaken with financial and other partners of substance. These partners will include Hotel Operators who are capable of enhancing the Group’s vision of a very high quality, environmentally impeccable tourist destination with long term sustainability built in to the design and operating procedures. The site for the Project is the Cavo Sidero peninsula, a spectacular location extending into the Mediterranean from the North Eastern coast of Crete in the prefecture of Lasithi. The site, in the locality of Itanos, will be held on a long lease granted by the Ecclesiastical Foundation, Panagia Akrotiriani and comprises 25,000 stremmata (over 6,000 acres). It has 28 kilometres of coastline, numerous secluded bays and inlets as well as an interior with rolling hills where herbs such as thyme and marjoram are part of the natural vegetation. With a built footprint of less than 0.5% of the site the Project aims to preserve the landscape and leave more than 90% in its natural state and create conditions for the regeneration of vegetation. The history of Itanos began 5.000 years ago and the broader area is rich in archeological sites. These include ancient palaces and towns, including the partially submerged ruins of Itanos itself. Together with old tales and traditions they form a unique cultural heritage. . In the North East of the area we have designed a project to blend in with and complement the landscape. It will be a new destination for Crete and Greece. Our architects have been inspired by the past whilst using the best of modern technology to create a sustainable whole. Inspiration has been taken from the ancient palaces and the Holy Monastery of Toplou, which sits just to the South of the Project site. We have designed hotels offering 5 and 6 star service in a resort that embraces the highest environmental credentials and is a prime example of sustainability. The Project will be self sufficient in water and energy resources, 650 rooms and individual suites will cater for the more sophisticated needs of today’s travelers. The amenities of the Project will include a multitude of land based and water sports. A heathland golf course designed around the natural contours of the land will include the latest techniques to encourage the regeneration of eco-systems and their wildlife. Together with a number of spas and wellness centres, cultural and environmental activities will ensure the successful year round operation of the resort. All of these will be supported by internationally branded hotels of the highest quality. Six Senses Resorts and Spas intend to join the Project and will operate one of the two ‘flagship̵7; hotels. Less than 2.000 beds will be divided between rooms, suites and studios within the hotels, all in the form of small clusters spread in an area of 25.000 stremmata, fully harmonized in the natural landscape. The essence of this soft development lies with the uniqueness of the Site and the Project’s sustainability. Minoan Group has been in consultation with major sustainability consultants and, in addition to its Greek team, will commission world renowned architects to design what will be a landmark of sustainable architecture in the hotel industry. It is the Group’s intention that, when complete, the Project will be one of the most environmentally friendly developments in Europe.	yorgi	Read Full Thread Reply
21/7/2017 08:10	Will we see any buying today in anticipation of results next week with the added news of a project update included in the interims or separately.	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply
20/7/2017 09:39	They'll touch upon prospective deals in the next update at the very least but I would guess they'll release hard news on this along with the figures. Not long now!	colinzeal	Read Full Thread Reply
20/7/2017 08:40	Well I sincerely hope so Hugo and not a generic announcement... We are involved in substantive talks with third parties to enhance shareholder value.	atlantic57	Read Full Thread Reply
20/7/2017 08:06	the closer to results without an announcement of a partner the more I believe that they will be announced together - if that's the case bt much time to enter at these levels.	hugothesecond	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 21:23	The trades after you wrote your post were all sells Hugo-and total value of all trades today was still only about £20k.Its not exactly white smoke! Still feels like as many want in as want out to me until there is something positive said by the company.	pinkfoot1	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 12:11	There is obviously a buyer out there and nobody is interested in selling at present levels. I believe we will see some selling at 10. After that we should once again see short higher levels being tested as results are expected. I see that news on a partner will closely follow results so it will be interesting to see who holds their nerve for the next step up !	hugothesecond	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 11:05	gerhart MMs don't wake up to a companies value they go on news when it's announced other than that they go on buy or sell volume,although they do manipulate a share price to suit their own needs especially when volume is low,but what does happen is with most shares is a volume pick up be it sells or buys when either bad news or goods news is on it's way due to people in the know or leaks in the company and leaks do happen in most companies be it through their workforce or what ever.In this case i reckons some good news on it's way ;) at the end of the day it's about reading the signs and hopefully getting it right,we will see.	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 10:25	Looks like there is the answer to the rise so far today. 150k delayed share buy. Can I tempt anyone for another 150K...cash? :)	gerhart	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 09:52	Think CFD/SP was probably better way to play this, as you don’t move the price. I have a few of those too… :) Hugo’s earlier comment is looking a bit prescient now. And I thought it was just wishful thinking! We’ll see how things pan out.... You could be right Scotty. Unseen buys, or MMs have woken up to nonsense of the value. Unlikely to be second! :)	gerhart	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 09:45	Moving up on small volume,could be buys in background to show,news coming or near by?	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 09:42	Hard to get many gerhart,offer just moved up again,don't know what online limits like,but def cannot get many with broker unless you pay a premium,so looking good.	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 09:16	Don’t you just hate it when you DON’T have the funds to buy more of a stock that is such an obvious great buy. And now with such a short time-frame to large profitable gain.	gerhart	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 08:53	Agree Scotty - Duncan Wilson will have hotel deals lined up ready to go live for 2018.	hugothesecond	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 08:45	Don't think it's emotional involvement atlantic although it as been hard slog to get were they are today,but for me selling off a chunk of the project and retaining a portion of the project of around 25% as hugo says would be the way forward,that way they'll have cash in the bank to increase the travel side with i suspect the buying of up and running units in Greece would be part of their policy plus retaining at 25% or even less if they could get a free carry of the project going forwards which will also bring in profits eventually straight to the bottom line.M/C way to low.It will turn ;) and very soon imo.	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 08:30	No stock being made available in volume - mm ensuring that they try to match buys with sells in early trades. Could rise back to 10 today.	hugothesecond	Read Full Thread Reply
19/7/2017 08:18	Agree Atlantic - it just depends how much they want to hold onto. I imagine 25% would be a figure they could live with if they did not have to invest in the development.	hugothesecond	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2017 19:29	Thete is a zero chance of a total sale, to much emotional involvement by the directors to be able to let go of their baby.	atlantic57	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2017 18:49	Don't think for one minute that'll happen willessa.They may well sell a good portion of the project for the cash and build up the travel side of the business,but would imagine they'll still want to retain a percentage.	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2017 15:38	For any large company that wants to get involved it would seem sensible to just buy the company. That's what I would like to see any get my money off the table!	willessa	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2017 15:15	Would be nice tomorrow colin but if not expecting news on the project v.soon.M/C waaaaaay to low.	scotty1	Read Full Thread Reply

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