Merchants Share Discussion Threads

[speedsgh] 14/9/2021 10:36

Upcoming presentation by Simon Gergel on Weds 22 Sept at 11am... HTTPS://citywire.co.uk/funds-insider/news/register-now-for-merchants-trust-sustaining-equity-income-in-a-changing-world/a1553718 Simon Gergel, manager of Merchants Trust (MRCH), will speak on the topic of ‘Sustaining investment income in a changing world’ and answer your questions about the prospects for the UK equities and dividends. In an online event presented by Citywire’s Gavin Lumsden and Jeremy Gordon, Gergel, who has run the £656m trust at Allianz Global Investors for over 15 years, will assess the: ~ recovery in UK dividends after last year’s historic cuts and whether it is sustainable; ~ impact of rising inflation on businesses and stock market returns; ~ challenges and opportunities posed by energy transition and climate change; ~ the durability of the recent really in ‘value’ over ‘growth’ stocks; and ~ opportunities outside the UK for income investors.

[ctrader3] 10/9/2021 12:09

KISS. if u compound 10k @10% after 20 years u will have 67.3k but after another 5 years u will have 108.3k Something your pension company will fail to mention as they move part of your pension into low risk, low return assets.

[ctrader3] 10/9/2021 11:44

The problem with that advice is that if u look at any compound interest tables most of the gains are made in the last years, if u go to cash too early u lose all those hard won gains but u have to remember the huge covid drop last year. remember. which, unlike the rumours never devastated the IT's dividends.

[ctrader3] 10/9/2021 11:40

A working life is spent building up a retirement pot, and a retired life is built on spending it. So far, so good, but while the subjects of accumulating a pension and drawing on it are relatively well trodden, less attention is placed on a smaller, but nonetheless significant period in the final approach to retirement. Your pension is probably nearing its peak value at this stage, so there’s a lot at stake. Meanwhile, your appetite for risk is likely to be shifting down a gear or two, as the time before you draw on your pension diminishes, which in turn limits your chances of recovering from any nasty stock market tumbles. The trick to managing this potentially hazardous transition between working and retirement, is to start with the ending, and decide how you are going to draw on your pension, because ultimately that will determine the best investment strategy in your retirement runway. THE OLD PATH Before pension freedoms were introduced in 2015, investors had fewer options when it came to drawing on their defined contribution pension. Most took out an annuity, which made pre-retirement investment strategy a bit simpler. Annuity income is generally fixed for life once you buy it. Annuity rates are based on bond yields, and so you can hedge the risk of converting your pension pot into a retirement income by buying bonds. If bond prices fall, bond yields go up, and so do annuity rates, offsetting the fall you will see in the value of the bonds in your pension pot. Conversely if bond prices rise, yields and annuity rates will fall, but you would be compensated for this by a higher value of the bonds in your pension. WHAT ABOUT NOW? In the current environment, pension savers planning on buying an annuity might choose to build up cash instead of bonds, given the likelihood that interest rates are going to rise over the next three to five years. This does make some sense, but this strategy becomes unstuck if interest rates fall. In that scenario, annuity rates would also be cut, and you’d have no bonds in your pension going up in value at the same time, just cash, so you’d end up with less pension income. It does seem unlikely that rates could fall further from current levels, particularly with the global economy staging a recovery. But then, we all thought that when the UK base rate was cut to its ‘emergencyR17; level of 0.5% in 2009. It now stands at just 0.1%. WHAT IF I WANT TO TAKE OUT CHUNKS OF CASH AT RETIREMENT? Many people aren’t buying annuities now as the pension freedoms have delivered more flexible alternatives. Some people simply take their pot out as cash in one big chunk or a couple of smaller chunks when they retire. This doesn’t make a huge amount of sense if you want your pension to pay a sustainable long-term income, or to minimise tax, but nonetheless it is a route some people go down. If this is what you’re planning, in the five years or so prior to drawing your pension, you should consider gradually selling out of investments and raising cash levels inside your pension pot, so you don’t open yourself up to a large fall in the value of your pension just as you’re about to liquidate it. KEEPING YOUR PENSION INVESTED Rather than take it out as one lump, a more sensible approach taken by many pension savers is keeping the pension invested after retirement and drawing an income from it. This clearly lessens the need to jettison longer term, riskier pension investments, but doesn’t eliminate it. Investors in this situation might consider what their portfolio is going to look like at retirement and think about gradually shifting their existing investments. This leads to a smoother shift from growth towards income producing assets, and allows investors to dial down risk gradually, if they wish to. For instance, this strategy might mean switching from a global growth portfolio towards an equity income portfolio, perhaps with some less volatile multi-asset funds included to provide some ballast. Again, a five-year runway for this process is reasonable, as it gives you enough time to transition your portfolio, and retirement is close enough you probably have a good idea when it’s going to happen. You can adjust this time frame depending on your individual circumstances. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS Whichever route you choose to draw on your defined contribution pension, it’s likely you’ll want to build up at least some cash in your pension by selling investments in the retirement runway. That’s because most people take their 25% tax free cash at retirement, for obvious reasons. To limit the risk of a big fall in the market just as you’re about to encash investments to fund this withdrawal, you probably want to build this cash up incrementally. As with any investment strategy, you can adjust your retirement runway plans depending on market conditions, selling more when markets are high and less when they’re low. But to tactically deviate from a game plan, you need to have one in the first place. It’s therefore a good idea to review your pension at least five years before your planned retirement date, to consider your investment strategy, and to make sure your pension is on track to provide you with a comfortable retirement income.

[ctrader3] 10/9/2021 11:30

INVESTMENT TRUSTS as an ANNUITY If the current portfolio went into drawdown next year the current yield on capital invested is 9% which should increase with inflation. the comparisons on 100k invested which isn't a direct comparison Portfolio income 9k and u retain your capital Pension annuity inflation proofed £3,282 and u lose all of your capital. Until there is a massive increase in interest rates drawdown could be the way forward. DYOR

[superiorshares] 09/9/2021 00:53

That regulation I mentioned a little while back . The intelligent scoffed at :-) Dividend Tax.. well well. Investors. Key month coming up, October Will we see a huge surge in the already enormous death toll ? Past seasons during the pandemic suggest yes . .

[ctrader3] 06/9/2021 16:17

How much pension income can you buy with £100,000? The answer may shock you Harvey Jones yesterday Today's low interest and annuity rates have shrunk the amount you can generate from a personal or workplace pension pot. That means people need to save more than ever, just to generate enough money to get by. So how much income will £100,000 give you? There is a simple answer, although you may not like it. If you buy a single life annuity at age 65, each £100,000 in your pension pot will give you a guaranteed annual income of around £4,968 a year, according to the Hargreaves Lansdown online annuity quote tool. That is a "level" income and will not rise in line with price inflation. If you want your annuity income to rise by 3 percent a year, your starting income in the first year will fall to just £3,282. Many will see that as a poor return for a lifetime of saving. Couples who buy a joint life annuity, which pays continues to pay 50 percent income after one partner dies, need a bigger pot. Each £100,000 of retirement savings will buy level joint income of roughly £4,285 a year at age 65, falling to £2,745 if you choose 3 percent inflation proofing. Of course, that inflation-proof income will rise over time, but again, it's a shockingly low starting point. In practice, only a quarter of pensioners buy an annuity these days. Most leave their money invested via drawdown and take money when they need it. So how much will you generate from £100,000 in drawdown? An old financial planning rule of thumb called the "4 percent rule" suggests this is the amount you can safely draw from your pension each year, without the risk of running out of money during your lifetime. This means for each £100,000 in your pension pot, you can only safely draw down £4,000 worth of income a year. This rule applies both to single people and couples. At least with drawdown your pension pot should keep growing in retirement, and you may raise more by dipping into your capital as you get older.

[tim 3] 05/9/2021 16:50

Hope so although I have to say am not particularly convinced by their arguments.They basically seem to be saying it's going up because it's cheap but that's been the case for years now.Problem is as long as Banks, Tobacco and Mining make up a good percentage of the index can't see the outlook improving much but as the dividend outlook seems to be improving I still like it for yields Am less confident of capital growth though.