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[milacs] 19/1/2011 12:05

Yes you are correct jeffian. In addition no one chooses to go to a dumpy pub and spend £3 a pint.

The modern pub is simply a restaurant with cheap food and sells alcohol as a secondary line.

M

[jazza] 19/1/2011 12:01

isis, all the stress that your one-man-advfn-repeal-the-smoking-ban campaign must be doing to you can't be good for your health...add that to your smoking habit and i fear for you..

relax..

[isis] 19/1/2011 11:58

blah, blah, blah - I can tell you for a fact I do not visit Pubs in the Winter and I know many people who do the same.

You are talking out of your Rse as usual to suit your book.

Also you didn't answer about Smokers having their own Pubs - couldn't bear the thought of people enjoying themselves whilst you sup your smug pint of Bitter eh?

[jeffian] 19/1/2011 11:50

No, thousands of pubs have closed because they were cr@p pubs relying on a shrinking market (alcohol on-sales) and failing to adjust to the market by offering good food, beer and wine in a pleasant environment. JDW and MARS, in particular, are building and opening new pubs all the time; a comparison between the ones which are closing and the new ones tells you all you need to know. There is clearly a problem with rural pubs but that is a function of limited customer catchment, as evidenced by a similar decline in rural shops and Post Offices.

[isis] 19/1/2011 11:36

milacs - I know many non-smokers who have never complained about smoking - in fact many of them were not in favour of the ban.

As I said it's more unhealthy standing outside in busy Towns.

Thousands of Pubs have closed due to the ban.

[milacs] 19/1/2011 11:33

isis

Au contraire

My best friend is a heavy smoker and he does not mind having a few beers at the local pub with me.

M

[isis] 19/1/2011 11:29

Call to tackle pollution 'role in 50,000 early deaths'


The report estimates the health costs of air pollution at up to £20.2bn a year
More could be done to prevent the early deaths of up to 50,000 people each year hastened by air pollution, MPs say.
A Commons Environmental Audit Committee report said failure to reduce pollution had put an "enormous" cost on the NHS and could cost millions in EU fines.
It said the UK should be "ashamed" of its poor air quality which was contributing to conditions such as asthma, heart disease and cancer.
The government accepted more could be done and would consider the report.
'Invisible killer'
Pollutants such as ozone, nitrogen oxides and "particulate matter" - tiny particles - from transport and power stations have been blamed for contributing to early deaths.
Particulate matter is estimated to reduce people's lives by an average seven to eight months, while in pollution hotspots vulnerable residents, such as those with asthma, could be dying up to nine years early, the report says.
Air pollution also leads to damage to wildlife and agriculture, with ground-level ozone estimated to reduce wheat yields in the south of Britain by 5% to 15%.
EAC chairman Tim Yeo said: "Air pollution probably causes more deaths than passive smoking, traffic accidents or obesity, yet it receives very little attention from government or the media.
"In the worst affected areas this invisible killer could be taking years off the lives of people most at risk, such as those with asthma."
Fines risk
The health costs of pollution are estimated at between £8.5bn and £20.2bn each year, with the report also warning that the UK risks "substantial" fines for its failure to meet EU regulations on limiting pollutants.
The committee said major changes were needed to policies on transport, which accounts for up to 70% of pollution in towns and cities.
It called for measures such as national standards for low emission zones, like the one covering London, to make it easier and cheaper for local authorities to implement.

The government has gone full steam ahead with policies like Heathrow expansion that will lead to more illness and premature death
Simon Hughes
Liberal Democrats
The report added more research was needed to understand the impact of particulates created by wear on tyres and brakes and those lying on the road which are whipped up into the air by passing vehicles.
The MPs said although climate change policies such as encouraging people to use public transport had helped, others policies, such as the use of diesel vehicles which were more fuel-efficient, were exacerbating air pollution by increasing production of particulates.
Liberal Democrat shadow energy and climate change secretary Simon Hughes said: "The government has scorned its legal obligations and instead gone full steam ahead with policies like Heathrow expansion that will lead to more illness and premature deaths.
"It is time ministers cleaned up their act."
The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said it took improving air quality very seriously and that it had made significant achievements such as reducing sulphur dioxide emissions by 86% since 1990.
The spokesperson added it was working across government to reduce emissions from transport and electricity generation.

[isis] 19/1/2011 11:27

jeffian - do you agree that smokers should have their own Pubs and Bars?

That is the fairest way - smokers do not want to be with non-smokers and vice versa.

Comprendhe??

btw - there is no way you can avoid Car Fumes they are everywhere.

[isis] 19/1/2011 11:11

jeffian - you are in clear denial.

Unlike tobacco fumes Care fumes are all around us all the time. There are 33m vehicles in the UK - just how you think you can avoid them by standing in a ar is laughable.

Another one who hates smokers but thinks it's perfectly OK to pour Tons of Toxic Waste via his Car.

There's a name for people like that. ;-))

[gbb483] 19/1/2011 09:54

"The Market" likes it - nice upward break out of the share price

[jeffian] 18/1/2011 23:46

Not at all, mate. Next time you park your Morris Minor next to me at the bar, I'll definitely complain. I'll suggest you leave it outside with the other smokers.

[jeffian] 18/1/2011 23:15

Another reason to quit; you get to stand inside in the warm AND avoid the traffic fumes! Go on, isis, you know it makes sense!

[isis] 18/1/2011 23:04

The worst thing is that you are often made to stand in the Street with the Traffic Fumes which are far more harmful than smoking ever was. Unfortunately Drivers are under the impression that these fumes are good for you - I'll bet you won't catch them standing behind an exhaust pipe though, especially their own filthy ones.

[milacs] 18/1/2011 22:47

Yep, atmosphere much cleaner, no horrible tobacco smoke to contaminate lungs and my clothes do not reek of tobacco smoke when I arrive home.

Wonderful!!

M

[isis] 18/1/2011 19:50

jeff - I only really enjoy smoking when having a drink so it's no good to me.

I spend at least a month away in the Winter now at no extra cost as I save a fortune not going in the Pubs.
They seem to have lost their atmosphere nowadays.

[isis] 18/1/2011 18:56

I have virtually stopped visiting Pubs during the Winter months due to the smoking ban and the weather.
I am not spending £40/£50 to be stood outside shivering trying to have a smoke - they can go ---- Themselves.

[mroalan] 18/1/2011 18:51

price of beer rocketing in JW,s was paying £1 50 on the special offers a few months ago,when that ceased it was £1 80 its now up to £1 95,but still the cheapest in town.

[isis] 16/1/2011 11:10

Have only visited a Spoons twice in the last 3 months. Profits must be down a bit due to the weather, I also heard some of the locals mumbling that the Benefit cuts may mean we will see less of them at the Bar.

So not all bad then!

LOL

[seahorsel3isure] 22/12/2010 12:42

Ha Ha

Know exactly what you mean timbo.

The Wetherspoon operation and business model is fantastic although clientele sometimes leave a lot to be desired.

I'm not holding any leisure at the moment as I'm cautious about the sector but would look to buy Wetherspoons if it maybe fell back to the £4 mark (without any adverse trading statements).

Still a bit confused about the board changes a couple of months ago.

Cheers and have a good one

SH

[timbo003] 22/12/2010 12:07

seahorseleisure

Agreed.

I don't hold Spoons shares, they are too overpriced for me, although I like the pubs, apart from the fact that I have to wait behind some old granny ordering 4 - 5 coffees some lunchtimes, when all I want is a Carlsberg, grrr! I do however own a few Marstons, Green King, Enterprise Inns and numerous other (unquoted) Pub Cos though.