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HOME Home Reit Plc

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13 Dec 2024 - Closed
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Posted at 11/12/2024 15:05 by adv11
Surprised to see I have a Corporate Action notification for the 4p/share offer from Southey Capital. Didn't expect that this was a serious offer, even though I would love to get rid.
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Please note that Southey (the Offeror) reserves the right to not accept any tendered shares and to not purchase them.
Posted at 02/12/2024 19:26 by eekhoorn
It's worse than that, some of the rent was paid by funds that were earmarked for refurbishment. Additionally vendors were settling charities debts with money that Home spent on acquisitions. The presentation for the recent webinar gives more detail about the deceptions that were going on behind the scenes. The Unusual Transactions and Lease Inducements slides are particularly damming for Alvarium. https://www.homereituk.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Home-REIT-plc-Webinar-October-Final.pdfGiven the losses also experienced at the Home Long Income fund (M&S pensions scheme a major investor) it's reassuring that the FCA have now imposed increased reporting requirements on Alvarium. https://register.fca.org.uk/s/firm?id=001b000003RCZoHAAX#what-can-this-firm-do-restrictionsI doubt if this will end well for them but there's a wider question about how they managed to get away with it for so long. Very little point in getting annoyed with the HOME NEDs especially as they don't have the big pockets needed to redress the losses. There's a wider set of failings here that need to be addressed. I'm not confident but we're certainly due a surprise on the upside here.
Posted at 28/11/2024 13:02 by spectoacc
FCA always been a farce - the money will be spent by the culprits before they ever get after the HOME boys.

But it's always the co gets fined for its own failings - the directors are ultimately employed by the shareholders after all.

Former Alvarium action could go on years of course, but will HOME?
Posted at 28/11/2024 12:39 by eekhoorn
I'd be very surprised if the FCA allowed the company to relist given the huge dependency of the share price on the outcome of its own investigation. The FCA itself is under increased parliamentary scrutiny so I would hope that they'd be aware that 'bayoneting the casualties' after what could be viewed as a £500 million regulatory failure is unlikely to go down well in Westminster.https://www.investmentweek.co.uk/news/4382742/fca-urged-adopt-reforms-mps-warn-watchdogs-integrity-called-questionThe APPG report concludes with the following statement:"It istempting to claim that the FCA is now 'drinking in the last-chance saloon'. But the problem is worsethan that: the bar is about to close, and the regulator is at risk of being thrown onto the street"Ouch!
Posted at 13/11/2024 08:49 by spectoacc
"The Group intends to publish Historical Accounts before the end of 2024 and the audited annual results for the year ended 31 August 2024 will follow as soon as is practicable thereafter. The Board and AEW remain committed to the restoration of trading in the Company's ordinary shares as soon as is practically possible."


GM is 5th December, perhaps 2025 before shares relist. HOME did well to sell enough to cover the Scot Widows loan (in theory: awaiting completions), so why not carry on selling? There's no sense in holding onto what they've got when the rent collection is so tiny.

Arguably two conflicting aims - one is to keep going long enough to take legal action against the crooks, which coincidentally also keeps management, AEW etc in clover. The second is to sell everything before costs eat away at what's left, and return all monies to shareholders.

If I were a shareholder, I'd want the second option.
Posted at 25/10/2024 13:24 by eekhoorn
The costs that Home is incurring are indeed truly horrendous. In their recent wind down vote circular they quoted corporate costs (excluding the Investment Manager fee)paid in the period from 1 September 2023 to 16 August 2024 as approximately £17.1 million. 'These fees included approximately £5.0 million of legal fees, asignificant proportion of which has been incurred to defend threatened litigation from current and pastshareholders'So even without including possible FCA fines you could probably knock another £40m off the valuation taking it to £80 or 10p per share. Given the extreme discount that it would be priced at on relisting, it would maybe make better sense to just return any available capital ASAP rather than relisting.The problem with that is that they'd need to retain these funds to pay off the Harkus Parker clients in the event of the HP litigation being successful. If only there was a better target for Harkus Parkers self righteous sword of justice. One with bigger pockets than shareholders that will have already seen the value of their holdings value decimated.https://greenstreetnews.com/article/home-reit-sister-fund-takes-legal-action-against-valuer/
Posted at 23/10/2024 13:46 by eekhoorn
I calculate that they have 829 remaining properties. So if they can sell at the previous average of £150k per property that should raise £129m or about 15p per share. The presentation on Monday should give more accurate figures. There doesn't look to be any Home properties in the next Allsop auction. However the annual report states (page 42) that the remainingproperties are expected to be sold in the period to30 June 2025. So I would expect sales will resume when they can ensure that all the critical documentation is available to ensure maximal sales proceeds. This hasn't always been the case due to Scottish Widows time constraints and AHRA didn't always pass them on.On the subject of Scottish Widows Peter Bill the property week journalist raised an interesting point on 'X' this morning when reporting the RNS 'How come they lent the money in the first place?'I should imagine there's a lot of Home investors that will be asking the same question.
Posted at 16/9/2024 05:45 by spectoacc
They put them on v cheap, it attracts bidders, sunk costs seem to do the rest. Seen few go genuinely cheap.

Still at prices of less than half what HOME shareholders paid tho :)

My experience is you sometimes get lucky (particularly if same AST tenants as prior to HOME's ownership), sometimes you get a trashed disaster, and even the ones HOME claim are tenanted often aren't. Have only to look at HOME's rent collection stats, albeit that's via the fake-eo CICs.

Good luck - also know that many of the original sellers buy back the properties they know to be decent.

Overall, I've been surprised how successful the auctions have been - you'd think there'd be a limit to how many cash buyers there are.
Posted at 23/8/2024 08:20 by spectoacc
Now having a read, and it's grim. The likes of @wallywoo should hang their heads in shame.


"The Company was set up to contribute to the alleviation of homelessness in the UK, whilst targeting inflation-protected income and capital returns, by funding the acquisition and creation of a diversified portfolio of high-quality accommodation assets across the UK dedicated to providing accommodation to homeless people."

but

"The Company has experienced very significant challenges as a result of the failings of its former advisers, including: poor condition of properties, a larger than expected proportion of the portfolio let as private rented sector (PRS) rather than supported housing, weak tenant covenant strength, significant mismanagement of properties by non-performing tenants, tenants failing to pay rent and disputing rent payments, connections between tenants (and connections between tenants and vendors) that were not disclosed to the Board, tenants entering liquidation and limited evidence of the Company's former advisers undertaking any detailed ongoing monitoring of tenants and properties."


ie very much what Viceroy Research said, some of which was provable with no more than 10 minutes on Google. Yet the Board repeatedly issued RNS's denying the allegations.

This is old ground, but well worth repeating. How many bought on the Board's refutations? Or due to the rampers on here?


SW:

"The Board and AEW have continued to engage with Scottish Widows, which has advised that its objective is for repayment of the loan balance in the short term and by no later than 31 December 2024. In addition, and as announced on 3 July 2024, Scottish Widows has revised the terms of the additional fee payable by the Company charged on the outstanding loan amounts, such that this will increase from 5.0 per cent. to 7.0 per cent. per annum until repayment of the loans. As of 31 July 2024, the Company had accrued £7.3 million for the additional unpaid fees being charged since August 2023."


So not only is the accrued fee already £7.3m, but "..By no later than.." implies SW is serious.

The circular goes on to talk about block sales, portfolio sales etc, not just the auctions. Suspect that's why Allsop is a lot quieter for next week - HOME are going to block dump some of what's left. The Mears portfolio seems an obvious place to start.

The great unknown is the legal actions against HOME, and any they eventually instigate against the likes of Alvarium. We could be no more than halfway through the HOME saga.
Posted at 06/6/2024 06:14 by spectoacc
Guessing the big drop in rent % is due to previous numbers being bolstered by arrears. Presumably the longer the arrears last, the lower the recovery. Probably as shown by how long it's taking to get some of the CIC's into administration.

I can only talk about the NE property I've bought from HOME (they do seem to have a lot of it), where I'd say the average rent is c.400 pcm. That would be to the CIC, who'd pay less up to HOME (often none!). Lowest was 320 pcm for a 2-bed.

Management cost - say 15%? ie once HOME take it in-house. That's pre-CapEx.

CapEx - it's finger-in-the-air, one property needed zero, one running at 30% (so far). Whether AST tenanted with a non-social tenant, or completely wrecked/former "grow", makes all the difference. But HOME will surely offload the wrecked ones.

They also have eg some giant HMOs where the monthly rent must be huge (just not to HOME!).

Mears portfolio probably the only way to come up with a finger-in-air calculation - legitimately run, rent going up to HOME.

Nothing I've seen yet makes me change my original 10p-20p estimate, if/when they relist after 18 months. Top end of that if they can deal with the remaining debt. The NAV's seemingly there, even written down, but sales seem to be slowing.


Edit - 15 Peterlees in the next Allsop:


Allegedly all vacant (they often change this), with no internal pictures. Lots 91 & 150A are worth a look for some of the sh*te they have. There's a suggestion the numbered streets in Peterlee may be set for demolition.

Edit #2 to Lot 91. 146 also amusing. How has it taken this long to get those up for sale?
I don't own any in Peterlee - wouldn't want to own there - but HOME's original purchase/Knight Frank's valuation of the Peterlee portfolio is what started me off here.
Isn't nearly enough opprobrium heaped on Knight Frank, who valued without looking at the properties. Even now, HOME haven't been inside all they own.
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