Hochschild Mining Share Discussion Threads

[onedayrodders] 15/11/2017 17:47

They don't usually and get out before it turns.

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 16:57

Well they're going to get slaughtered

[onedayrodders] 15/11/2017 16:07

Commercial short positions in silver increasing

[onedayrodders] 15/11/2017 16:02

Exactly

:o/

[juju44] 15/11/2017 15:55

Thx Rod , brilliant. Too high or too low would have given the FED a problem so they made sure they were neither - they are brilliant . hahahahha

[onedayrodders] 15/11/2017 15:36

juju

In line hence PM smack

USD CPI m/m Actual 0.1 Forecast 0.1% previous 0.5%
USD Core CPI m/m Actual 0.2 Forecast 0.2% previous 0.1%

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 15:17

aha so that's what you want is it richkid? to buy in at that level...

[richkid71] 15/11/2017 15:10

Just go under 200P and be done with it - save all this farting about.

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 14:54

there you go juju

there's money in making these predictions...

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 14:47

I think you'll find he turns up with things are on the move up. MOre of a swing trader that one that an investor.
I became an investor only because I didn't want to take a small loss.
When it turned into a big paper one I truly became committed.
You wonder whether he is too in that respect. Just waiting for the exit point when this hits the right number....

[juju44] 15/11/2017 14:45

Yanks should soon fix this silly PM rally

[richkid71] 15/11/2017 14:43

I still find it baffling that HOC is red when metals are holding up pretty well. As for GS calling 500P, as I've said before, I find it odd he doesn't have much to say when apparently he has a large HOC investment.

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 14:25

I admit I was greedy. And I was stupid. I staked too much on one share, one company.
I once worked for a high net worth individual. his accountant told me he could see £300m off shore. in his name. That individual once told me when I tipped a share to him" why would I want to invest in someone elses company when I can invest in my own?" wise words. he also told me to stick to what I know. He said he would. Both are property, in different guises. Have made all my money in that I have to say. not in stocks. We have no influence over events in these companies. A lot of it is believing the story. At £3.37p I believed it and I got it wrong the moment they reported an earnings miss. But I too do think they will get back up there, and beyond.
And its funny you say when it does my thinking may well change, to "this is it" this is £5 on the way per share. Well, that is in deed the kernal of human nature just there. And it will be interesting to see what I decide. I have a feeling I already know.

This is a coiled spring right now. Very range bound. Look at the long term chart. Such compression does not last long.

On short tracker it is Marshall Wace LLP who are short HOC to the tune of 1.1% of the free float.

Are Marshall Wace controlling this for the time being having increased their short position from 1.01% to 1.1% on 24th October 2017?

Who are they? - the only company with a short interest in HOC.



"We specialise in global long/short equity".

Under "Our values"

"Complete integrity, and transparency, are integral to everything we do

We are committed to contributing to society"

Well they're screwing with our lives that's for sure.

[juju44] 15/11/2017 14:20

So are todays numbers not out yet ? Thought it was 1.30 gmt

[onedayrodders] 15/11/2017 14:18

USD CPI m/m Actual 0.1 Forecast 0.1% previous 0.5%
USD Core CPI m/m Actual 0.2 Forecast 0.2% previous 0.1%

[juju44] 15/11/2017 14:14

What was expected CPI number?

[topicel] 15/11/2017 14:07

DT, it also is human nature to be greedy and, as it has turned out, that was the first and biggest mistake here when we thought 340p plus wasn't a ceiling just ten short weeks ago.

Now, 30% and more poorer, we find 240p annoying and blame impatience!

If we go back to 340p - and I think we will - then most probably even you will have changed your tune as greed takes over again from impatience and you'll hang in there thinking 'this is it', the fiver a share GS promises is coming this time!

And around we go. Cyclical I think they call it.

I always did better when not greedy...and if you've got the funds you say you have sloshing around you shouldn't have been greedy either...

CPI data hit the dollar, and that is good. NK having another test tantrum would be better. Watching Italian shares dive day by day is also comforting.

The wider issues are very relevant.

Topicel

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 13:46

It will. It's only human nature to be impatient. But it doesn't speed things up.
HOC is not large. It is a mid cap.
FRES mcap is £9.72 billion
HOC's is £1.17 billion
A baby in comparison.
The funds gravitate to bigger caps.
The mid cap producers follow.
Then the small caps producers.
Then the micro cap explorers.
You lot surely know this stuff.

[lauders] 15/11/2017 13:42

Our time will come! At least I �(@&* hope so! Keep the faith or a rabbit's foot or something ;-)

[shakeypremis] 15/11/2017 13:36

Most other large PM producers on the up today. HOC always lagging.

[dt1010] 15/11/2017 13:00

Yes it will

[juju44] 15/11/2017 12:58

Will silver save the day