Hill & Smith Share Discussion Threads

[hvs] 15/12/2010 14:43

Its stake building.

Watcyh these ROCKET.

I aint NO chart fart though.

[redartbmud] 15/12/2010 12:47

Has anyone seen 2 sales 1m & 1.15m shares sold today.
Who is selling in big numbers & what do they know?

[matt123d] 14/12/2010 20:01

hvs - 14 Dec'10 - 18:21 - 533 of 533 (Filtered)

Inexperienced user, nothing constructive or relevant posted.

[hvs] 14/12/2010 18:21

u DO WHAT U LIKE.

LIKE i SAID I know thos co like the back of my hand,

NEXT STOP £ 3.99.

[matt123d] 14/12/2010 17:08

Closed at 247.75p!! Maybe you need a chart to see that, ha. Supply still at 250p. Intraday movements pretty meaningless, I only ever trade this stock in the auctions and by the looks of it so do others.

hvs, i'm getting the impression you're pretty inexperienced, be careful in these markets.

If 250p is eventually broken i'd anticipate the next area of supply being 265p, would tie in very well with three indicators I use.

[hvs] 14/12/2010 16:52

Anyone know why charts and farts rhyme ?

250p already broken want to see the sellers.

[matt123d] 14/12/2010 16:50

250p presenting resistance then!

Killieboy,

A little bit of advice would be to never ignore charts. They make up a picture of every stock market participant involved.

A little bit like poker you can anticipate what certain participants may do at particular price levels. Supply and demand, price action and volume all displayed in front of you along with indicators which participants follow and which you should be aware of as stocks will react at those points.

In the example of HILS, price regained the 5dma a few sessions ago which was the first indication that supply was diminishing, also price began to regain daily vwap. The next indicator was the breach of the 20dma, usually a buy signal for computer trading programs and other traders, another reason why you should use charts!

If 250p is broken then there are indicators in the chart where participants will be more inclined to sell and hence these areas are points of supply, if you don't follow charts then how do you know when to sell and you most defininitely would have missed the turning point here which was the breach of the 5dam after 230p support was held.

[killieboy] 14/12/2010 16:27

Have you ever bought/sold on advice from a chartist - I hope not. If they could read anything into crystal balls (sorry charts) they would not be posting on here.

[hvs] 14/12/2010 15:59

Why are we up so strongly when the chartists said sell sell sell. ?

[matt123d] 12/12/2010 16:53

Yes some signals are present in the chart but what do you think? Technical analysis please.

[hvs] 12/12/2010 09:16

Anyone know what the chart is saying now ?

[hvs] 10/12/2010 13:10

Buy Buy Buy

[hvs] 08/12/2010 13:44

It bodes well.

Good luck to you if you are long. This is a cracker of a share.

[matt123d] 08/12/2010 13:40

Good to hear.

Actually looking better today, above the 5dma and attempting the 20dma now.

[hvs] 08/12/2010 13:00

I has actually made loads on this and waiting now to make a whole lot more.

Sold at £ 4.00 in 2008 and now have once again got a very nice little stake.

[matt123d] 07/12/2010 17:41

Are you actually making money on this?

[hvs] 07/12/2010 17:18

Anyone for charts then ?

[hvs] 02/12/2010 18:48

Time will tell.

I aint afraid. Got enough dry powder to treble up on my initial purchase.

I trust the chart will say BUY at £ 4.00.

[redartbmud] 02/12/2010 14:29

Afraid I agree with matt123d.
As someone who worked at a stockbrokers for several years I confirm that it takes 2 to make a market - a willing buyer & willing seller. They determine the price.
More & more people have access to good quality charts. Whether they can understand & interpret them is another matter.
Nevertheless, if the signs aren't positive they deal in other stocks as a preference.
H & S is in an unloved sector for the present time. It is a very good company, but external influences are against it in the short term, reflected in volumes & the charts.

[matt123d] 02/12/2010 09:56

You can't make a comparision like that as at the time you bought WGB the general market was just starting to recover from a severe bear market.

'Charts never point to future movement' well that may be the case but a lot of people follow them so if investors are looking at the same negative indicators as me they aren't going to buy. Price action is the only thing that pays!

Time will tell how this plays out.

[hvs] 02/12/2010 09:12

Charts never point to future movement.

I bought wgb at 10p when the chart was going where ?

[redartbmud] 02/12/2010 08:51

Afraid that I side with matt123d.
The fundamentals are against the company at the present time.
Lower government spend on infrastructure over next few years must impact the business. I believe the board will slim things down based on forward projection of projects coming through the pipeline.
It must under-perform the general market, so the charts are telling us what we should know.
By the way, I do like the company if not the economic timing at present.

[matt123d] 01/12/2010 19:01

Absolutely no indication of that! Have you not noticed that this is below the 200dma.

Plot the HILS chart over the WGB chart and rescale, note the differences in moving averages, trendlines, price action, rsi and macd. One is giving negative indicators the other positive.

If WGB is a long then surely HILS is neutral or short, risk versus reward isn't to the long side here or am I missing something.

[hvs] 01/12/2010 18:38

oVERALL THIS HEADING BACK TO ALL TIME HIGHS.

i KNOW THIS SHARE SINCE IT WAS 63P. mADE ME A LOAD OF DOSH AND WILL MAKE ME
EVEN MORE NOW.

[matt123d] 01/12/2010 17:30

Going up! Erm 1% when the general market is up 2%. That's weak to me. It can't even reclaim the 5dma.

Notice you're involved in WGB, unsure how you can recognise that to be a good investment but also think this is.

HILS share price is at a 52week low, surely that must tell you something?

I reiterate if 230p fails on this it's going a lot lower but at present appears to be finding some support so there may be about 10% upside if the general market is on the next leg up which I presume it is.

Overall the price action and trend is down.