Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Helical LSE:HLCL London Ordinary Share GB00B0FYMT95 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +7.50p +2.16% 354.00p 352.50p 355.00p 354.00p 340.50p 350.50p 16,046 13:54:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Real Estate Investment & Services 99.9 41.6 34.0 10.4 418.37

Helical Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
22/1/2018
13:47
basically i struggle to see nav going up much but i can see discount narrow. given the extent of it being so wide, i call this my margin of safety. bit washy as it is based on audited nav and is not done on mark to market transactions but i think you get my point.
edwardt
22/1/2018
13:27
yep, as a holder of both the bonds and the equity, im quite pleased with this outcome. The refinancining by AVIVA both saves helcial money and, (more importantly to me), reduces the maturing debt risk that helical had in case of a disorderly Brexit. It makes teh equity a safer inv imo. cheers
llef
22/1/2018
12:32
they will mature at 111p and will accrue to feb so leave alone would be my suggestion. as for the equity, the bear thesis is centered on high debt levels so this should placate them. the discount to nav should all things be equal start to contract, hence i am in hold mode here.
edwardt
22/1/2018
12:27
Hmm the bonds I hold are being redeemed early...moved up today ..do I sell now...pondering time
badtime
11/1/2018
13:15
good rental update but anyone got any ideas other than that as to why share price gone on a march of late...
edwardt
04/1/2018
12:47
given lots of deal activity in the sector, i for one would not be unwelcome of a bid near nav. this has too big a cost base for its size in my humble opinion.
edwardt
21/11/2017
11:52
thanks - yep, management has always been highly rated, which is one of the main reasons I've got the shares, but their relatively high gearing in the current uncertainty is a bit unsettling. If Brexit is resolved amicably, then it will look like a masterstroke, if not, then its a big hostage to fortune.
llef
21/11/2017
11:02
I've never had a spread between account, ordinary shares only. Best of luck with your holding. It's a strong management team imv, even with Michael's departure.
essentialinvestor
21/11/2017
10:53
great timing! out of interest, do you buy the actual shares, or do a spreadbet instead?
llef
21/11/2017
09:34
Out of those. This may be my last REIT trade/holding for sometime.
essentialinvestor
20/11/2017
16:35
Had a small amount before the close. Growing political risks for UK REITS, with Corbyn waiting in the wings, hopefully 2/3 years away yet. Closed out my small LAND trade. No other REIT holdings.
essentialinvestor
17/11/2017
12:24
(as a holder), it would be nice to see some directors buying. "The Company uses gearing on a tactical basis throughout the property cycle, being raised to accentuate property performance when property returns are judged to materially outperform the cost of debt and lowered when seeking to reduce exposure to the property cycle." It seems the market is punishing the share price for their current level of gearing, so its their (highly renumerated) acumen that is being doubted,so now would be a good time for them to wade in!
llef
17/11/2017
10:29
285-290 may be an interesting area to add, if we go that low.
essentialinvestor
16/11/2017
16:24
Had a small amount @ 2.98. Under 2.90 would not surprise me on a weaker market day, just imv only.
essentialinvestor
15/11/2017
19:59
yep, Land have actually added to their retail exposure this year - spending 330m on 3 sites which seems a bit brave to me - and which has put me off buying some. But helical were obv exposed re their gearing - I think that is why they rushed to announce yesterday that they had sold their retirement villages to L&G at 13% discount to book value. They have 100m conv bond maturing june 2019, and 80m retual bond maturing june 2020 - it would be hard/expensive to roll those over with gearing of over 50% - not going to be cheap with gearing of 43% either! I agree that GPOR is best in class: helical debt has average maturity of 3 years and rate of 4.3% and gearing of 43% great portland is 5.7 years and 2.7% and gearing of 15% I know which i prefer (tho I hold both), and Portland is still looking to sell more in H2!...
llef
15/11/2017
17:43
Retail exposure is valid, thought about it today as bought a small amount of LAND earlier. Many larger REITS appear to have increased retail asset quality over the last few years, whether that is borne out in the next cycle downturn remains to be seen. I was a little underwhelmed by the HLCL leasing update, may need to re-read the statement. GPOR perhaps the sector pick atm, price can be volatile.
essentialinvestor
15/11/2017
15:18
helical has higher gearing, but LAND has more retail exposure (quite a lot in fact). so its swings and roundabouts really - do you agree?
llef
15/11/2017
14:14
You can now buy LAND on a near 40% NAV discount, is HLCL good value in this context at current levels?.
essentialinvestor
07/10/2017
12:02
Out of HLCL as of yesterday morning, may be the incorrect decision. The macro backdrop looks to be more challenging given political instability and slowing GDP. On the flipside the already very considerable discount to NAV may provide support. Good luck to anyone holding.
essentialinvestor
04/10/2017
11:02
30 years points to a lot of experience...or old age
badtime
04/10/2017
09:25
Thank you for the explanation.
spooky
04/10/2017
09:16
I tried to answer your question, rather than just ignoring it. Stick with what works for you. And as per my post I sold a few, not all.
essentialinvestor
04/10/2017
09:13
On positions where I am less confident of direction, for example buying a small amount of BT.a late yesterday and selling this morning, then will accept a small return for a very short holding period. On hgher conviction positions will usually hold in quantity.
essentialinvestor
04/10/2017
09:12
EI, trading them for 10-15p doesn't stack up in terms of risk reward, no matter how long you have been doing it.
spooky
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