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| Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Stock Type |
|---|---|---|---|
| Harland & Wolff Group Holdings Plc | HARL | London | Ordinary Share |
| Price Change | Price Change % | Share Price | Last Trade
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| 0.00 | 0.00% | 8.375 | 00:00:00 |
| Open Price | Low Price | High Price | Close Price | Previous Close |
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| 8.375 | 8.375 |
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| GAS WATER & UTILITIES |
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Posted at 16/9/2024 11:25 by iceagefarmer john wood has alot to answer for..misled investors |
Posted at 12/8/2024 15:26 by garbetklb I've never been an investor in HARL!Spotting the RNLI rebuttal to the (pre fundraising....) RNLI Framework agreement rather put me off (my post 166). Then spotting a previous (pre-fundraising.... Triumph Subsea would be a v good place to start for anyone / any authority wanting to understand HARL. Maybe HARL were just a bit naive & unfortunate RNSing a £700m LOI on 10/12/2020 with a £100 company set up 9 weeks previously on 07/10/2020. And presumably Cenkos were happy with the announcement. But there must surely be more to it than this as Triumph's website had lots of news predating the company's formation....... Triumph never got around to filing accounts and have been struck off. Their newsfeed stopped abruptly after the mutual recriminations over the cancellation of the LOI. |
Posted at 29/7/2024 09:04 by loglorry1 I'll explain. For one HARL misled investors stating they were confident in getting gov backing for their loan. That was obviously just wishful thinking. I doubt it will ever become public info but I'm sure from the outset UKEF were having none of it.JW also lied at investor presentations. I think at Mello he claimed he had term sheets for loans then it later transpired they hadn't even appointed a lead bank (or similar). I suspect in a few weeks when the new guard take over the board they will find all sorts of "black holes" and put it into admin. |
Posted at 16/5/2024 09:03 by jaknife loglorry1,If you look at the last annual report, which was to 31 Dec 2022: then note 14 tells you (page 77) that: "Revaluation The fair value of the group’s Land and buildings was revalued on 30 June 2019 by Hilco." So there's no "hidden value", ie the assets are already on the balance sheet at an amount close to their fair value. JakNife |
Posted at 15/5/2024 11:31 by john henry I'm not an Investor here so I'm looking more from the human element of the story.Harl business is in year 4 of a 5 year turnaround. Looks like the rug could be pulled from beneath just as the business is starting to see a little light at the end of a historic dark tunnel.Sell to a foreigner it's that what happens to all uk businesses |
Posted at 19/4/2024 11:33 by loglorry1 I've been adding to my short recently. I'm only quiet because there's nothing more to say. Either JW talks the Gov into bailing out shareholders and Riverstone in which case shares will go up or else they'll just run out of cash and have to do some sort of restructuring.I don't think this or the next Gov will use tax payers money to support private shareholdings. It's just not how UKEF works. This is what Hunt recently said: UK FINANCE MINISTER HUNT: UK WILL NEVER INSURE INVESTORS AGAINST BAD DECISIONS; THAMES WATER NEEDS TO SORT OUT ITS OW |
Posted at 11/4/2024 16:09 by xenor I expect finance will come before the 2023 results, so I doubt that. I'm not worried about these results anyway, they aren't going to be like last year where the 2022 revenue was awful and losses were gigantic. I'm expecting a slight revenue miss but that was announced in November and now priced in.I'm not seeing any evidence that investors are scared, it's up around 20% in the past two weeks.But yes, you are right that the company is doing work on cruise ships and getting paid for it. I hear we're also renting out the yard to house the Sea Rose and getting paid for that too. How amazing is that? I'm glad that you are figuring out how business works. |
Posted at 11/4/2024 15:00 by john mcinnes wood Xenor - Wait until 2023 results are announced, you will have ample opportunity sub 10p.Cash didn't run out, they took more from Riverstone - how else to fund a new ferry service? Don't forget the finance deal is now 18 months in the making, JW waiting for the best deal apparently (read as no money on the table, the company debt has scared away investors / bankers). Total pig's ear of a business, maxed out the company credit card, fooled the current shareholders with new projects that have gone quiet and Belfast renting out the dry dock to cruise ship upgrades because they have no work. |
Posted at 08/3/2024 00:24 by xenor Chinahere, you are an example of why most private investors lose money. If you can't comprehend the idea that companies bid for work in order to generate revenue and profits then perhaps you should leave it to the big boys and stick to ETFs.Then again if you believe the shorter crew on here then you'll be gullible enough to think the company is purposefully signing loss making contracts in order to go bust.That's not how business works. |
Posted at 06/3/2024 08:46 by loglorry1 Feels like they are ramping the equity for a keep the lights on raise to private investors who are daft enough to give them any cash. Why not milk them for a few pounds? I'm sure Riverstone would be keen for any sort of equity raise at this point. |
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