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HAT H&t Group Plc

638.00
0.00 (0.00%)
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
H&t Group Plc LSE:HAT London Ordinary Share GB00B12RQD06 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 638.00 638.00 640.00 - 0.00 01:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Finance Services 265.37M 22.23M 0.5053 12.67 280.64M
H&t Group Plc is listed in the Finance Services sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker HAT. The last closing price for H&t was 638p. Over the last year, H&t shares have traded in a share price range of 0.00p to 0.00p.

H&t currently has 43,987,934 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of H&t is £280.64 million. H&t has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 12.67.

H&t Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
10/7/2025
11:56:33
I contacted Chris Gillespie today, asking if he could provide any clarification on the likely bid timetable.

Below is his prompt response, which he kindly authorised me to post here:

"The timetable is dependent upon the remaining bid condition - FCA approval - being received and we are in their hands on this matter. The applications were submitted to the FCA shortly after the announcement of the potential transaction in May. As there is no firm timetable for the FCA response, we are unable at this stage to publish a transaction timetable. We will continue to update shareholders at each stage of the process. The intention is to move to the court approval stage, and completion, as soon as practicable once FCA approval is received."

lord loads of lolly
13/6/2025
19:59:27
I'm going mostly with pm miners wad. Pooled funds best to spread the risk. It's probably the best example of the fees being worth it. FCF must be enormous atm. They have been mispriced for ages but a re-rating rapidly going on
I have plenty silver too. 36 bucks is a good technical level to have broken, needs to stay above there for the weekend
Gla

sigmund freud
13/6/2025
18:57:17
This is my only gold holding , so it would be good to hold something else with a golden hue.
wad collector
11/6/2025
16:01:23
Thanks sigmund - ditto.

Whilst it may be less relevant to H&T holders now (unless they're thinking of transferring to RFX), I found the following analysis of gold fascinating.

You may be about to change your understanding of gold & its long term performance!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpL7I8MuUGU

lord loads of lolly
05/6/2025
19:53:56
responded on rfx llol
edit- voting email arrived today

sigmund freud
05/6/2025
17:33:40
Did anyone else tune into today's RFX presentation?

I found it interesting how - proportionately - their pawnbroking division forms a much smaller part of the whole business.

Interestingly, they referred to the current gold price multiple times, saying their current budgeting assumed it would eventually drop. Though Peter Kenyon (CEO) did also admit he'd got gold price assumptions wrong multiple times before! It backed up my view that a premium-priced takeover-induced exit from H&T when gold is at/near historical highs might prove to be quite timely for shareholders. There again, gold could just carry on rising.....

The presentation also suggested Ramsdens share price had been boosted by H&T's takeover bid, in which case I suspect this
may prove to be temporary. But again, who knows?

I found Peter's style confident (almost to the point of slight arrogance/complacency at times). Certainly a very different character from Chris G. He didn't feel FirstCash's takeover deal would have any negative impact on Ramsdens. I'm not so sure. FirstCash is well funded and US companies have a tendency to be far more ruthless, expansionary & impatient in their growth strategies.

Overall, it reinforced my view that there will likely be better entry points for RFX some time in the future. It just feels a bit frothy to me right now, buoyed both by the high gold price & (to me, unlikely) takeover speculation.

lord loads of lolly
04/6/2025
15:54:03
sigmund - same here (in terms of H&T).

I guess the risk premium - in terms of this deal falling through - is currently priced at just over 2% (difference between 650p FirstCash offer & 636p Ask). The same dividend would apply either way.

I'm tempted to buy more to take advantage of this difference. But with the deal timescale still being unclear & my H&T holding already being well overweight, that might be a risk too far. If proceedings dragged out until the autumn or beyond, I'd have been equally well off sticking that money into savings. Hmmm, decisions decisions!

lord loads of lolly
04/6/2025
13:58:02
i'm leaving the cash in HAT, happy to sit on it
i increased my holding in bakk which got a bid around a similar time. that offer is partly based on the gnc price, which has been increasing, i'd put more cash there rather than here. but i have plenty and enough of both, having an excellent year so far. lots of my smaller cap stocks have done well
as long as nothing sends the HAT deal off, i am chilled. the wider market could fall so i am treating this a bit like cash in the bank atm
i don't hold ramsdens but that share price has also been motoring up

sigmund freud
04/6/2025
11:22:53
Sadly, no timeline to completion in today's Scheme Document.

The effective date is D+2, where D is "expected to be in the second half of 2025, to be determined following the satisfaction or waiver of the FCA Change in Control Condition", with a long-stop (i.e. sh!t or bust) date of 11.59pm on 31 December 2025:


www.investegate.co.uk/announcement/rns/h-t-group--hat/publication-of-scheme-document/8911075

lord loads of lolly
02/6/2025
15:13:30
Only a couple of days to wait before H&T's Scheme Document is due out.

Presumably - amongst other things - this will set out their bid timetable.

As things stand, just over 2% separates the FirstCash deal (650p) from H&T's current share price. If the timetable to completion is relatively short, some may consider it worth adding now to gain the extra 2%+ in a month ot two's time. But of course that 2% reflects the perceived risk (low, yet feasible) that something crops up in the meantime to derail the whole process.

I might just be prepared to take that risk, but will wait to see the timetable first.

lord loads of lolly
30/5/2025
08:07:26
sigmund - yes, the CMA seems happy with the deal. We should receive further details around 4th June:

www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/market-news/update-on-conditions/17058514

I think any counter bid would have happened by now. And given the initial offer price, I wasn’t expecting one anyway. Whilst it would have been nice in a way, it could have made FirstCash think twice or even walk away, so probably best if things are kept simple!

wad - in terms of the share price, it initially only fell 6p yesterday once ex div. That drop widened during the day - but currently still by less than the 11p dividend.

I’m expecting shareholders to vote this deal through, so will be holding until completion. And in the (hopefully unlikely) event anything untoward happens in the meantime, I shall be EXTREMELY narked!

lord loads of lolly
29/5/2025
17:25:39
the takeover made it past the first hurdle at the CMA
there is reference to the bid price remaining unchanged unless there is a bid from a 3rd party, but i would be surprised by that now
is there any reason to sell now? being on aim, there can be big spreads and i have a decent-sized holding. so i am happy to stick with it and take any opportunity cost on the chin

sigmund freud
29/5/2025
17:14:33
Lordy , you were kind of right, it only fell 10p!

I shall hold unless I see something tempting elsewhere.

wad collector
27/5/2025
12:20:02
Clearing spam post
cwa1
26/5/2025
23:25:13
Wad - I’m not convinced the share price WILL fall that much on 29th.

Or even if it does, that it’ll stay at that lower level for long.

But we’ll see soon enough.

lord loads of lolly
26/5/2025
22:02:11
Xd 11p this week.
Which will be paid under the terms of the bid, assuming it happens.
So the share price would fall to a bid price of about 631p . The gap of 19p or 3% , may be worth awaiting. But not if you can see a better place to put it?

wad collector
16/5/2025
15:20:21
spob - you never know.

Ramsdens has nothing like H&T's scale & market share though and was already valued on a higher multiple (before H&T's FirstCash deal).

I suspect Ezcorp would think twice after their Albemarle & Bond fiasco. Once bitten, twice shy and all that.

lord loads of lolly
16/5/2025
13:24:30
Maybe Ezcorp will buy Ramsdens after seeing their rival buying HAT
spob
16/5/2025
12:59:13
Well done to all long term holders who have finally achieved a more realistic price.

My own first batch was in April 2008 at a price of 182p with the idea of a play on the financial crisis.

There was previous American interest in the UK pawnbroking sector. HAT rival Albemarle and Bond had the support of another Texas pawnbroker Ezcorp who had a 30% stake. (Ezcorp from Austin is 2nd biggest US behind First Cash).
ABM eventually collapsed ironically because they could not service their debts. Ezcorp didn't provide further support.

scotches
14/5/2025
23:35:20
Fully understand that. Also realise H& T had to borrow money at approximately 8% to fund the recent acquisition which at those rates would temper future expansion, However the pledge book is an increasingly valuable tangible asset and also the barriers to enter the pawnbroking market at any scale I would think are huge so 650 p is not overly expensive
1pvh
14/5/2025
22:16:46
ramsdens has been on a roll recently and they did have a good update.
HAT has been having a good run before today's announcement.
due to the lack of communications re HAT, i just wonder if firstcash had been running their eyes over ramsdens recently? if so, ramsdens recent rally and sympathy rise today might be met with a big fall soon.

there must be some rules about what a board has to share and what they don't. if i offered to buy shell out for a tenner, they wouldn't have to inform shareholders would they? anyway, right now i ain't upset about it. and the ceo has been very good with PI's so he has my blessing, along with a good few others on here too.

i too had thought about taking profits- for once procrastination helped me!

sigmund freud
14/5/2025
21:56:44
Podgyted, I was about to follow you and dump half my shares for the same reason. I was just waiting for the momentum to go. Overall, you haven’t done too bad. I think you still made money.
ymaheru
14/5/2025
21:20:57
Well I certainly got that one right!

LoL

podgyted
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