Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[petroc] 24/1/2023 16:46

What the stock basher keeps failing to acknowledge, even though he has been made aware of, is that there is a complete lack of evidence supporting his position that MED3000 doesn't work. On the contrary, three trials have been carried out and over 60% of men with ED who took part all confirmed that MED3000 worked as promised, which is more than twice the number of triallists who received no benefit. That's a fact, whatever the lying stock basher claims.

[lbo] 24/1/2023 10:46

Its works as well as any arousal gel with the same ingredients would work if the man just believes its an ED treatment.



Ingredients

Water, ethanol (35%), propylene glycol, glycerin, carbomer, potassium hydroxide.

There is no evidence to substantiate Med3000 is having any effects beyond using arousal gels with the same ingredients







water-based warming gel Ingredients

Stimulant Gel Aqua, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol Denat, Carbomer

[lbo] 23/1/2023 19:34

So here is the Med3000 full patent application ingredients which are all used in other lubricants/arousal gels already. on the market. I wonder why there has been NO update on the patent!? LOL



The composition of the invention contained: ethanol: 33%; water: 35%; glycerol: 24%; propylene glycol: 6%; Carbopol® Ultrez 10: 1%. pH was adjusted to 5.25 with potassium hydroxide solution. The ethanol used in the manufacture of the composition was absolute ethanol (i.e. 100% ethanol free from water) such that the final composition contained 33% of pure ethanol. If a lower grade of ethanol was used which contained impurity amounts of water (e.g. 96% ethanol), then the amount used would have to be adjusted to ensure the final composition contained the correct amount of the components, i.e. 33% pure ethanol and 35% water.




A placebo is anything that seems to be a "real" medical treatment -- but isn't. It could be a pill, a shot, or some other type of "fake" treatment. What all placebos have in common is that they do not contain an active substance meant to affect health

[lbo] 23/1/2023 19:28

Any placebo gel with the same ingredients of water, alcohol, glycol and Carbomer will provide the same placebo effects and placebo results if the man is just led to believe ‘it works’ for their ED! As was the case in all the Med3000 tests! LOL

You can find thees arousal gels all over the internet with the same ingredients as Med3000

https://www.farmaline.be/apotheek/beste
llen/eroxon/

Ingredients Water, ethanol (35%), propylene glycol, glycerin, carbomer, potassium hydroxide.







water-based warming gel
Ingredients
Stimulant Gel Aqua, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol Denat, Carbomer

[petroc] 23/1/2023 19:08

Over 60% of men, WHO HAVE ACTUALLY USED MED3000 IN 2 CLINICAL TRIALS AND A REAL WORLD TEST, confirmed that MED3000 worked for their ED. LiarBO, who has never even seen MED3000, let alone used it, says it doesn't work. Boo hoo!

[lbo] 23/1/2023 18:34

Med3000 has never shown any effect beyond a placebo in any adequately controlled study!https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6434767/Uncontrolled TrialsThis design incorporates no control arm. This design is usually utilized to determine pharmacokinetic properties of a new drug (Phase 1 trials). Uncontrolled trials are known to produce greater mean effect estimates than a controlled trial, thereby inflating the expectations from the intervention. There is a threat of inherent bias and results are considered less valid than RCT. Another issue is use of this design in spontaneously resolving maladies that might again overstate the effecthttps://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2012/05/administrative-law-judge-upholds-ftcs-complaint-pom-deceptively-advertised-its-products-treatingAdministrative Law Judge Upholds FTC's Complaint that POM Deceptively Advertised Its Productserectile dysfunction claims were false and unsubstantiated because the study on which the company relied did not show that POM Juice was any more effective than a placebo.https://pocketdentistry.com/asa-ruling-on-orthoaccel-technologies-inc-ta-acceledent/Because the trial was not placebo-controlled, we considered AcceleDent had not provided adequate evidence to support the claim ‘AcceleDent’ is also clinically proven to reduce the pain and discomfort associated with braces and aligners by up to 71%. We concluded that the claim had not been substantiated and was misleading.On that point the claim breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation) and 12.1 Medicines, medical devices, health-related products and beauty products.

[lbo] 23/1/2023 18:23

Trinity Research who are paid by Futura even openly admitted the hypothesised effects ‘believed’ to be happening by Futura are disputed. Trinity admitted no mechanism of action has to be even shown to just get a medical device registered. But it does need to be shown and proven to substantiate its marketing claims of having any effect beyond a placebo or fall foul of the FTC, ASA and the Courts.

But the ramper is saying on the record the FTC is just trying to bash the shares and is not trying to protect consumers from harm at all! Thats some libellous accusation against the FTC, ASA and the Courts

Trinity research:

˜Presumably the effect is comparable to the cold-induced vasodilation (CIVD) that occurs with extremities such as toes and fingers. Despite being a well-known effect, the mechanisms of CIVD are still disputed, but the pathways involved could well be similar. Interestingly, the precise mechanism of action does not need to be elucidated for the regulators to be comfortable for a product to be approved as a medical deviceâ’



˜There is no evidence for the evaporative mode of action from the clinical trials. To show that the evaporation is what makes MED3000 work, you'd need to compare it to a non-evaporative gel’



A Non-Medicated Gel to Treat Erectile Dysfunction: Snake Oil or the Real Deal?

the placebo effect will always result in an increase over the baseline (as it did in this trial), and the results of this study are actually just showing that neither the non-medicated gel nor the treatment being investigated resulted in any improvements beyond the expected placebo effect. In order to truly determine the efficacy of this non-medicated gel in treating ED, researchers would need to design a new study with a different control

Until then, this gel will likely remain just as it initially seems: too good to be true.

[lbo] 23/1/2023 18:20

Still waiting for a scientific explanation with substantiation how 2 gels with the same ingredients can be giving different results? LOL



Ingredients Water, ethanol (35%), propylene glycol, glycerin, carbomer, potassium hydroxide.





water-based warming gel Ingredients

Stimulant Gel Aqua, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol Denat, Carbomer