Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[lbo] 11/7/2022 16:17

No wonder some men and women reported ‘burning’ with Med3000



The composition of the invention contained: ethanol: 33%; water: 35%; glycerol: 24%; propylene glycol: 6%; Carbopol® Ultrez 10: 1%. pH was adjusted to 5.25 with potassium hydroxide solution. The ethanol used in the manufacture of the composition was absolute ethanol (i.e. 100% ethanol free from water) such that the final composition contained 33% of pure ethanol. If a lower grade of ethanol was used which contained impurity amounts of water (e.g. 96% ethanol), then the amount used would have to be adjusted to ensure the final composition contained the correct amount of the components, i.e. 33% pure ethanol and 35% water.

I wonder how fast the remaining shareholders cash will be burned through on just an alcohol and water placebo gel that has no patent. Also if there is any real market for it. It can just be replicated by any similar arousal gel containing alcohol and water.





Voltaren vehicle gel is the carrier substance of the topical Voltaren products. This vehicle gel is especially formulated to be easily applied on the skin, while providing some sensory benefits. The present study aims to substantiate the widely perceived hydrating and cooling effect of Voltaren vehicle gel.

[lbo] 11/7/2022 16:08

More lies from Petroc the proven liar who posts so called ‘FACTS’ with zero disclaimers!

Its all a ‘swindle’ by the Multi-ID rampers like Petroc who are trying to ramp a placebo gel on multiple websites and BB sites. Desperately trying to convince the naive to buy in.



A product that contemporary technology does not understand must establish that this ‘magic’ actually works. Proof is what separates an effect new to science from a swindle . . . . If a condition responds to treatment, then selling a placebo as if it had therapeutic effect directly injures the consumer. FTC v. QT, Inc., 512 F.3d 858, 862-63 (7th Cir.

Trinity Research even admit the hypothesised effects ‘believed’ to be happening by Futura are ˜disputed’ and no mechanism of action has to be even shown to get a medical device approved. But it does to need be proven to substantiate its marketing claims.

Trinity research:

˜Presumably the effect is comparable to the cold-induced vasodilation (CIVD) that occurs with extremities such as toes and fingers. Despite being a well-known effect, the mechanisms of CIVD are still disputed, but the pathways involved could well be similar. Interestingly, the precise mechanism of action does not need to be elucidated for the regulators to be comfortable for a product to be approved as medical device’



‘There is no evidence for the evaporative mode of action from the clinical trials. To show that the evaporation is what makes MED3000 work, you'd need to compare it to a non-evaporative gel’

[lbo] 11/7/2022 15:09

Why don’t you do ‘A DEAL’ with the other Multi-ID rampers to stop ramping and give all the necessary disclaimers about their ‘FACTS’!? LOL

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141

I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections



A Non-Medicated Gel to Treat Erectile Dysfunction: Snake Oil or the Real Deal?

this gel will likely remain just as it initially seems: too good to be true.

[mikethebike4] 11/7/2022 14:39

LBO

I most certainly don't speak for anybody else

Rather than filling this thread up why not agree that Med has risks like any new product and let the buyer beware

DO WE HAVE A DEAL ?

[lbo] 11/7/2022 12:45

So you don’t speak for the other multi-ID rampers who repeatedly ramp and claim ‘FACTS’ and give zero disclaimers!? Unlike Futura who you know well have given all the necessary disclaimers

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141

I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections.

[mikethebike4] 11/7/2022 12:42

LBO

I only speak for myself (mtb4)

I don't play games !

Rather than filling this thread up why not agree that Med has risks like any new product and let the buyer beware

DO WE HAVE A DEAL ?

[lbo] 11/7/2022 12:19

Do you speak for all the other multi-IDs too? LOLmikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections.

[mikethebike4] 11/7/2022 12:13

LBO - do we have a deal ?

[lbo] 11/7/2022 12:09

How ironic Mike! LOLmikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 14:35:10 - 4072 of 11141Having had similar waffling, 'smoke-screen' answers from Mr Barder over the years which have turned out to end in exactly nothing I am loathe to give any credence to virtually everything he saysmikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:58:28 - 4091 of 11141Company is massively over valued if you go by 'concrete' results !mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections.I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong about Mr Barder (our CEO since 2001) and to sale away into the sunset grasping 5 times as many £s in my fist as I paid for the sharesUnfortunately for people like J7J, Mr Barder has been through this advisors process before - with CSD500 - and look where we've got in 17 years - sales of the product did not even equal the money we paid him to be our CEO for 2017 !mikethebike4 - 06 Dec 2017 - 10:32:27 - 3468 of 10591"A couple of decent deals and will be back off to the races."Do you have any idea of how long shareholders have been using these wordsmikethebike4 - 23 Mar 2017 - 09:52:33 - 2560 of 10591As someone who has been invested for many years and who attended an AGM years ago and complained to Barder about the very slow progress, I am very frustrated.All the time the Board are drawing good salaries off the backs of shareholders money they have very little incentive to get off their backsides and get 'selling' - thats what running a company is all about at the end of the day!mikethebike4 - 24 Feb 2020 - 09:11:58 - 7290 of 9713why should it be any different this time when you've still got the same useless lot running the showmikethebike4 - 07 Jan 2019 - 11:22:52 - 4692 of 9641I repeat I very much hope you are right - no one would be happier than me if you are - however I stupidly (in hindsight) bought in when everything looked really rosy - we were told there were loads of 'distributors' all 'champing at the bit to get selling a wonderful industry disruptive product (which it still is incidentally) once the 2 year shelf-life problem was fixed. This was despite the fact that the Holland/Belgium distributor was quite happy and successful selling them with the original 18 months shelf-lifeAnd where are we now years later - one tiny distributor from which Futura receives a total sales income only just about covering Mr Barders employment remunerationI just hope this MED/TPR situation is not just a repeat of CSD.As to why I don't just sell up, well my shareholding is worth such a tiny proportion of what I paid for it I might just as well hang on in the hope that new shareholders getting in now are luckier than I was and I can get some of my money back - I think what we need is Mr Barders retirement - that should give the share price a kick

[mikethebike4] 11/7/2022 12:01

Well LBO

The only reason I repeated the same posting was to stop you monopolising this thread

Unlike (it appears) yourself I do not have endless free time to keep refuting your repetitive twaddle with which you insist on inflicting the rest of us.

If you would agree not to post I wouldn't post either

Do we have a deal ?

[lbo] 11/7/2022 10:59

Oh dear Mike! You have repeatedly posted over and over the same thing! LOLmikethebike4 - 27 May 2022 - 16:17:08 - 1197But keep it up and we will reach 100p soonmikethebike4 - 27 May 2022 - 15:22:29 - 11975 of 12430mikethebike4 - 27 May 2022 - 12:40:59 - 11973 of 12430mikethebike4 - 27 May 2022 - 12:06:22 - 11971 of 12430mikethebike4 - 27 May 2022 - 08:37:08 - 11961 of 12430mikethebike4 - 26 May 2022 - 16:53:13 - 11955 of 12430https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/441189-mike-rabe/28602-15-ways-to-spot-stock-discussion-board-rampers1. The rampers post exorbitant stock price predictions.2. The rampers warn others they better get in now or else. Their "buy now" posts almost sound like threats.3. They attack those who disagree with their lofty predictions. They cannot back up their arguments with a rational discussion, so they resort to petty name calling and telling others who disagree with them that they are "full of it."5. They post their predictions over and over and over desperately hoping to move the market. They never do, because what they say is insignificant to the market. That is because no one knows who they are (see below).6. The rampers rarely (if ever) backs up their predictions with concrete, specific numbers -

[mikethebike4] 11/7/2022 10:30

Main thing to remember is - don't listen to those who repeat their position on a share endlessly, they have a personal reason for doing so and tend to have large wrist muscles !

LBO is a case in point

[boneshaker2] 11/7/2022 09:21

Last 20 daysLBO 144 postsA N Other 109Our clear winner of having nothing better to do LBO???

[lbo] 10/7/2022 20:30

Recent research has shown that the placebo effect is not only similar for medical devices to medical trials; it is considerably larger – the effect of a sham device is almost three times that of an oral placebo.

[lbo] 10/7/2022 20:27

Reckitt should launch a lubricant/arousal gel with saffron attached to a bag of nuts!!! ROFLMAO



treatment of ED with oral placebo capsules demonstrates clinical effects, improving erectile function and quality of erection.



Erectile dysfunction improvement: pistachio or placebo effect



Effects of a Topical Saffron (Crocus sativus L) Gel on Erectile Dysfunction in Diabetics: A Randomized, Parallel-Group, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Trial

evidence suggests that saffron can be considered as a treatment option for diabetic men with erectile dysfunction.

[petroc] 10/7/2022 19:42

Hahaha! This is LiarBOt proving he's not a bot by personally responding to others. Haha! I play the tune and he dances!

[lbo] 10/7/2022 16:52

Joe Maybe its time for a new discussion called Futura a winner for 2022? And I agree all the products have ended up in the ‘waste’ over the 20 years since it listed!

JoeStalin - 30 Sep 2019 - 10:07:37 - 5937 of 10774
FUTURA a winner for 2015 - says it all!


JoeStalin - 18 Jul 2018 - 09:00:46 - 4354 of 10775
'jam tomorrow' is a very easy promise to make.


JoeStalin - 22 Jun 2018 - 14:12:24 - 4288 of 10775
What's another year after all?
At FUM, time is measured in decades.


JoeStalin - 25 Apr 2018 - 16:07:34 - 4147 of 10775
There seems to be an unlimited number of ways of saying "Jam tomorrow".


JoeStalin - 21 Mar 2018 - 13:50:44 - 3985 of 10775
A lifestyle company, but not for the shareholders.

[joestalin] 10/7/2022 15:06

LBO10 Jul '22 - 12:51 - 12473 of 12474 (Filtered)

I have not visited this thread for a while. What a waste of his life.

[petroc] 10/7/2022 14:45

Why don't you just do one, LiarBOt? You're so effing boring.

[lbo] 10/7/2022 12:51

Mike like all the rampers is just desperate to try convince the naive to buy in so they can sell out before the 'swindle' is fully exposed mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 14:35:10 - 4072 of 11141Having had similar waffling, 'smoke-screen' answers from Mr Barder over the years which have turned out to end in exactly nothing I am loathe to give any credence to virtually everything he saysmikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:58:28 - 4091 of 11141Company is massively over valued if you go by 'concrete' results !mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections.I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong about Mr Barder (our CEO since 2001) and to sale away into the sunset grasping 5 times as many £s in my fist as I paid for the sharesUnfortunately for people like J7J, Mr Barder has been through this advisors process before - with CSD500 - and look where we've got in 17 years - sales of the product did not even equal the money we paid him to be our CEO for 2017 !mikethebike4 - 06 Dec 2017 - 10:32:27 - 3468 of 10591"A couple of decent deals and will be back off to the races."Do you have any idea of how long shareholders have been using these wordsmikethebike4 - 23 Mar 2017 - 09:52:33 - 2560 of 10591As someone who has been invested for many years and who attended an AGM years ago and complained to Barder about the very slow progress, I am very frustrated.All the time the Board are drawing good salaries off the backs of shareholders money they have very little incentive to get off their backsides and get 'selling' - thats what running a company is all about at the end of the day!mikethebike4 - 24 Feb 2020 - 09:11:58 - 7290 of 9713why should it be any different this time when you've still got the same useless lot running the showmikethebike4 - 07 Jan 2019 - 11:22:52 - 4692 of 9641I repeat I very much hope you are right - no one would be happier than me if you are - however I stupidly (in hindsight) bought in when everything looked really rosy - we were told there were loads of 'distributors' all 'champing at the bit to get selling a wonderful industry disruptive product (which it still is incidentally) once the 2 year shelf-life problem was fixed. This was despite the fact that the Holland/Belgium distributor was quite happy and successful selling them with the original 18 months shelf-lifeAnd where are we now years later - one tiny distributor from which Futura receives a total sales income only just about covering Mr Barders employment remunerationI just hope this MED/TPR situation is not just a repeat of CSD.As to why I don't just sell up, well my shareholding is worth such a tiny proportion of what I paid for it I might just as well hang on in the hope that new shareholders getting in now are luckier than I was and I can get some of my money back - I think what we need is Mr Barders retirement - that should give the share price a kick

[mikethebike4] 10/7/2022 12:21

swamping out this thread with negative posts, repeated endlessly, is part of LBOs campaign to do this share down in some sort of revenge for his financial losses some years ago

he thinks that if something is repeated often enough it is true