Freedom4 Share Discussion Threads

[ekuuleus] 24/9/2008 14:08

so it was 1 share ffg for 1 pipex share?

In which case if I continued to hold I'd be up the duff?

[veryoldbob] 23/9/2008 19:00

This from the recent update:

"It remains the Board's intention to distribute to shareholders the proceeds of the £17.5 million Loan Notes, plus accrued interest, which are due to be repaid by October 2009"

With 1.07 bn shares in issue,that works out at 1.63p a share in a year's time (plus interest). Of course, there's no guarantee that sum won't be downsized - with no real income and the WiMAX venture sucking in cash they might need it, but as steve1111 says, the two companies (100% of Wireless and 52% of WiMAX) are effectively free at the current share price ..

[stevi1111] 23/9/2008 14:36

Ekuuleus......I took at few off the Level 2 book this morning at 1.79p.

The company eventually is going to be giving back £17.5m to shareholders (Please correct me anybody if I'm wrong) therefore the current market cap means the Wimax is thrown in for free.

Limited downside IMO here - Just patience needed to grab the easy odd 0.5p profit thats all.

[ekuuleus] 22/9/2008 22:23

i stopped following this when still pipex

what split are people referring to?

how does the current 2p price compare to pipex 8-16p?

[veryoldbob] 10/9/2008 08:22

This is the key:

"However it is unlikely that a fixed-only service will deliver significant traction in the market, and marketing should remain low-key until a broader range of services is available."

In other words, they're admitting that without the license amendment, they're unlikely to make much progress. Disappointing that there was no news on that front, but I guess it's now tied up with the 2.5 GHz auction.

[stevi1111] 10/9/2008 07:49

Current Market Cap - 23.13m

Financial summary (including discontinued operations):

Net assets at 30 June 2008 of £31.1 million

* £17.5 million Loan Note,
* £10.5 million cash held in escrow
* £4.3 million net cash (2007: £(98.2) million net debt)

Still undervalued.

[richjp] 31/8/2008 22:14

Jasey - your post 104.

Spot on. What is happening in other countries is largely irrelevant to FFG.

[veryoldbob] 29/8/2008 22:12

"FFG has an AIM listing so should swallow up IMO the private unlisted operators and thus widen its UK network

eg in Maidstone WiMax trials are being done by MLL"

The Maidstone trial being organised by M-WAG is using a temporary OFCOM license at 2.5 GHz - the operators there have no network to buy up and will close once the license runs out. The 2.5 GHz auction is currently delayed probably 'till next year. The trial doesn't help FFG anyway as they have a 3.6 GHz license that is fixed access only.

...and Jasey & Nils214 are right - not much real news relevant to FFG lately.

[digging] 29/8/2008 15:21

ab news just out regenesis/RGN not de-listing they have a capital injection priced too de-list.

[andrbea] 29/8/2008 14:56

ok jasey, why doesn't ffg go on the acquisition trail?

FFG has an AIM listing so should swallow up IMO the private unlisted operators and thus widen its UK network

eg in Maidstone WiMax trials are being done by MLL:

[andrbea] 28/8/2008 11:29

India (fastest-growing GSM market) sets the tone on Wimax policy

Policy & Regulation
Mobile services through WiMAX permitted as DoT modifies policy
TT Correspondent | New Delhi | 28 Aug 2008

WiMAX industry in the country received a major boost as the DoT has reportedly modified its policy on wireless broadband technologies including WiMAX services. Earlier DoT restricted the use of WiMAX services to only data based services. But with the new policy even voice services can be offered through WiMAX network.

The decision to review the policy was reportedly taken on August 21 by the Telecom Commission.

But the new boost comes at a cost of increased reserve price for WiMAX spectrum in the auctioning process. The Commission now wants the base price to be 50 percent of the 3G base price as compared to earlier 25 percent. A pan-India WiMAX licence may now come at an estimated price of Rs 1010 crore.

[andrbea] 27/8/2008 08:06

UK firm cuts cost of Wimax basestations
by Richard Wilson
Friday 22 August 2008
Axis Network Technology has highlighted the importance of multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) antenna technology for the roll-out of wide area Wimax communications networks.

The Aylesbury-based system developer has introduced MIMO Remote Radio Heads (RRH) for OEM deployment of WiMAX networks at 2.5GHz and 3.5GHz.

The company claimed that the use of remote radio heads, which can be mounted close to the actual antennas, will reduce the cost of Wimax basestations.

[markieparkie] 23/8/2008 19:52

Just a hunch or maybe just dreaming..

Seen this thread on the BBC news site:



Wonder if Intel are thinking of some day using WIMAX as the source for the inet link for the TV's etc?

[andrbea] 22/8/2008 09:14

LTE vs WiMax

100Mbps Wireless In Two Years?
Maybe, Just not for the United States...
02:38PM Thursday Aug 21 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: wireless · alternatives · networking

At the moment, there's three front-runners for the fourth-generation wireless broadband crown: 3GPP LTE (Long Term Evolution), mobile WiMax and 3GPP2 UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband). All three standards will offer low latency and theoretical max speeds that will eventually make current US EVDO and HSDPA speeds (and even some home landline connections) seem anemic. However, while UMB is waning fast and WiMax has an early lead (dependent on Sprint's success), LTE is officially leading the 4G push.

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[andrbea] 22/8/2008 09:13

in-vehicle Wimax by 2012?

With high-speed internet coming to vehicles, it raises the question of what will happen to other in-car media once internet-based media can be streamed directly. Will satellite radio suffer? For now, many think it wont, but that all may change when faster mobile broadband makes itself known. "They can co-exist for the time being," said Richard Robinson, an analyst at tech research firm iSuppli. "You won't see internet radio replace satellite radio, for example, because that's too much of a jump. It's not a good enough alternative."

The long-term outlook may be much different however, says Robinson, calling Chrysler's early EVDO cellular router system a "trojan horse" that pails in comparison to the coming of viable mobile WiMAX, a wireless standard that makes Wi-Fi look like dialup. With vast nationwide coverage and speeds reaching 50-75 Mbps, in-car internet access could truly become commonplace. It could also do things such as kill satellite radio all together and drastically change navigation. The best part is- it could happen as soon as 2012.

[andrbea] 21/8/2008 10:55

Wimax being built into Toshiba laptops

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The other technology, the WiMAX wireless broadband technology, is meant to provide unprecedented high connection speeds. Considered to be the next generation of wireless connectivity, this particular technology will allow Toshiba laptop consumers to leverage high speeds, even when downloading or accessing data-intensive applications.

For example, applications like video conferencing or online videos will have better quality, and will have much fewer interruptions whilst streaming. An additional feature of WiMAX is the range at which the network is available; computers can access it within a much larger radius than what was previously available with WiFi (News - Alert) wireless hotspots.

[andrbea] 19/8/2008 13:09

and a modest sized buy today (900 k)

[andrbea] 19/8/2008 09:13

Wimax in Malaysia

Aug 19

Malaysian WiMax operator Packet One Networks began commercial services Tuesday, marking another step in the ongoing rollout of the broadband wireless technology.

"Our plan is to target 100,000 subscribers in the next 12 months," said Michael Lai, Packet One's CEO, in a telephone interview.

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Under a promotional package offered with the launch of the service, a 1.2M bps (bits per second) WiMax link will cost 99 ringgit (US$30) per month, with a 12-month contract. A 2.4M bps connection will cost 229 ringgit under the same terms.

[andrbea] 19/8/2008 09:11

Wimax in USA

19 August

Clearwire expects to go commercial with its first Portland, Ore., mobile WiMax deployment in the fourth quarter. This network could be followed by Atlanta, Grand Rapids, and Las Vegas. In addition, a September launch of a WiMax mobile wireless network in Baltimore is still expected.

Sprint owns spectrum licenses for the WiMax band covering more than 180 million U.S. residents while Clearwire has spectrum in the same band to serve 115 million people.

[spights] 19/8/2008 08:09

Approx 15months before we get any money back :o(

[s_e] 19/8/2008 08:02

Has there been any news regarding the pipex shares and share bybacks from the company,i know there was talk of returning cash to share holders,i have not been following it that well, ??

[andrbea] 18/8/2008 12:40

Whether that next-generation technology is WiMAX or LTE, 4G promises two kinds of rewards. For subscribers, 4G will provide faster data rates and much lower latency than 3G. For operators, 4G will allow for more cost-effective networks, thanks to its IP-based, flatter architecture and the higher spectral efficiencies (30% greater than HSPA) provided by OFDM technology.