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Investor discussions regarding Fisher (James) & Sons Plc (FSJ) highlight a cautiously optimistic outlook following the company's recent trading update for the year ending December 31, 2024. The group reported solid overall trading performance bolstered by advancements in their marine services across energy, defense, and maritime markets. Notably, there were discussions projecting EBITDA around £50 million, with expectations of further improvements and de-leveraging potentially driving stock equity upward. Investor sentiment appears to favor an upward trajectory, as one participant stated, "Improvements on that and de-leveraging should IMO see equity continue to rise & have bought more accordingly."
Additionally, investors expressed confidence in the management team's capabilities, particularly within the context of new leadership. One key comment indicated that the current management "have done a great job in the last 12 months to start turning this around," suggesting a belief in their active approach to improving performance. Participants also pointed to the innovative projects like the James Fisher Seal Carrier as appealing developments which could signify a strengthening market position. Overall, the discussions reflect a mix of cautious optimism and active interest in the company’s future, emphasizing the positive impact that strategic management changes and market adaptations are likely to have on FSJ's stock performance.
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James Fisher & Sons PLC reported a strong trading performance in its latest update, primarily driven by solid demand in key markets, notably the energy sector. The company announced that it expects an underlying operating profit of approximately £29 million for the year ending December 31, 2024, surpassing market expectations. This positive outcome is attributed to effective execution in operations combined with contributions from several non-recurring items. Additionally, the marine services firm is on track with its planned turnaround strategy, which includes the simplification of its portfolio.
The company's net debt is anticipated to remain within its target range of 1.0-1.5 times, indicating a healthier financial position. With results set to be announced in detail on March 20, 2025, James Fisher's performance reflects an improving trajectory as it strengthens its offerings across energy, defense, and maritime services, positioning itself favorably in a recovering market.
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Have bought for the bounce. Looks oversold IMO....DYOR |
Topped up, target 1000p in 2 yrs. |
Debt being reduced - may take some time for value to flip into equity so I may top up on this weakness. |
Moving along nicely... |
I "did my own research" (see below) and can get to a valuation of 700-900p. Re: balance sheet note, company has exercised options on 2 tankers this week from a Chinese shipyard suggesting again management is comfortable that it can meet key credit constraints and debt should fall over time. |
debt value is nothing just a headache, in the long run very undervalue. |
This was £20 before COVID! Personally i think the debt pay down will continue into '24 allowing value to flip further back into the equity....DYOR |
Recovery potential here is ace IMO....have continued to add accordingly DYOR |
Continued from previous: continued margin improvement and positive growth trends across its major divisions (energy, renewables, defence, shipping) business should return to be strongly cash generative (£80-90m EBITDA La) - as in the past bringing debt levels down fairly quickly now Ill fated growth/ acquisitions strategy behind it and renewed focus on financial discipline going forward under new management team. |
The two concerns I identify are financial - the debt levels as you point out and any residual liabilities around the (already sold) nuclear business JFN which has subsequently gone into receivership. I believe they have provided £4m of provisions thus far but remains to see if this is adequate as the business is wound down. I expect management to expand on this further in upcoming results. With regard to the debt levels I believe they are manageable risk because: I) management has shown it is able to do quick disposals (aging vessels etc) if it looks at risk of breaching covenants; ii) it retains the confidence of its (6) lenders in its banking group; iii) post disposals on no performing businesses (now largely complete) and restructuring (inc already seen Margo improvement inprovement) |
tail_risk - Do you have any concerns about the level of debt? |
There are plenty of reasons why FSJ should be on a recovery path. New CEO and FD, and the backing of some new shareholders, such as OIT, who have a good record in sniffing out undervalued recovery plays. |
Hi - did a bit of work on FSJ going through accounts, call transcripts etc and modelling a recovery not even to previous margin and ROCE levels and believe shares are potentially worth 2-3x current depressed valuation. All 3 business units have secular growth opportunities - renewables only a small part. Had no position previously but building one.. definitely a "show me" stock but should see catalysts in upcoming results under new management and then reinstatement of dividend (2025?) |
James Fisher Renewables was launched in 2021 to group together a group of services FSJ already provided under a single brand to appeal to the offshore windfarm industry. |
hxxps://www.james-fi |
r88ave. FSJ is a conglomerate of maritime businesses. I can not see any numbers specifically relating to wind farms but I would guess that it is less than 10% of FSJ revenue. |
Sounds OK to me, so why is the share price down so much? Is the decommissioning business normally a major contributor to revenue and profits? |
divisions, without Fendercare, which is added to the Tankships division to create Maritime Transport. JFD is the only component of the Defence division. |
r88ave. What percentage of FSJ revenue and profits comes from off shore wind farms? |
Given the strength of determination to push for greener energy at recent COP 28 and off shore wind farms I cam see the demand for this company expertise only to get very busy in coming years, Will start to accumulate at these silly prices for my pension pot |
I like to look of wind turbine in energy sector on last interim, can see this explode in coming years the company expertise in this. Reckon the chairman should seek more marketing PR power to get more work in this sector. |
GET READY FOR LIFT OFF IMO !!!! |
Back in 2019, revenue was £617m and £47m pbt, the share price was 20 quid (note - currently its 3 quid), look at this years forecast for revenue and pbt, is it soo far for 2019??? |
Hope you don't have too long a sleep, Ham Ham. |
Up we go, wake me up when it hits 20 quid again ;) |
Type | Ordinary Share |
Share ISIN | GB0003395000 |
Sector | Deep Sea Frn Trans-freight |
Bid Price | 330.00 |
Offer Price | 334.00 |
Open | 333.00 |
Shares Traded | 13,050 |
Last Trade | 16:35:10 |
Low - High | 333.00 - 333.00 |
Turnover | 502.9M |
Profit | -62.4M |
EPS - Basic | -1.2381 |
PE Ratio | -2.69 |
Market Cap | 166.31M |
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