Environ.Recycle Share Discussion Threads

[potem] 26/4/2013 12:47

Fair enough.

[rp] 26/4/2013 11:55

Er...because I'm a (disappointed) holder.

[rp] 26/4/2013 11:31

Probably - after all this company is taking the p*ss

[potem] 26/4/2013 10:45

rp - Is that the royal "we"?

[rp] 26/4/2013 09:45

Hurrah, we have news of more patents abroad. I guess this means we can fail in more countries than ever before. What a pile of poo this company is.

[times104] 25/4/2013 07:45

2J I think he/she must be a builder. They always have a site. In fact they always have more than one site on the go at anyone time.Thats why you always have to wait for them to turn up to get your extension finished..............

[teh hampster] 23/4/2013 21:37

Not me 2J, you must have upset teh thread owner Mirandaj.

[2jinxed] 23/4/2013 21:31

Question who or rather who was battelbridge? and what play did they have with 3dm? came across a company not in the uk or usa but in well>> Battelbridge ??

Battelbridge ??????????? come on it is linked LOL what a very clever

[2jinxed] 23/4/2013 20:12

Oh!! so you did? you naughty boy!! and what else do you moderate?? by the way is BB ok? trust he is not unwell?? if he is let me know I will send him a very good bottle of red!!

[teh hampster] 19/4/2013 21:21

I don't think ADVFN moderated your post 2J.

[2jinxed] 18/4/2013 18:45

Oh dear you mean the fencing company, well yess they had or perhaps still do have the contract to do all or most or some of the motorway fencing.

PIM is not so cheap to produce products, if it is prove it????

ADVFN if a person is dexlexia or dexlic how can you? or should moderate there post , thta is unfair? you are being predjudice against me, but then that is nothing new is it ????

[gemstar2] 18/4/2013 15:53

The question I always wanted answered was why the original purchaser of the Bedwas machine backed out

This was spun as because the company wanted to retain it for demonstration purposes, but I have grown more cynical over the years

[relaxing] 18/4/2013 14:14

Acga. I can't argue with anything you say. I have noticed some regular buying in chunks of 250,000 or more shares over several weeks now so perhaps someone in the know might be accumulating. And of course, KB paying about £200K for shares not so long back was a very positive sign. I truly hope good things happen at ERT not least because I know there's a lot of people that have hung on as long as I did and you are now.

[acga] 17/4/2013 19:36

Hi relaxing
You are obviously well versed in ERT's chequered history and can understand you throwing in the towel. I too have been holding for the last 10+ yrs and so far has proved to be my most shocking investment. However I have met LC and feel he might just turn things around. He has also forked out for some million odd shares out of his own money and will presumably buy some more with the other directors in the latest offer. He is a Yorkshireman and doesn't come across as someone that would throw his money away. As usual time will tell. Hope you have had more luck with your other investments!

[relaxing] 17/4/2013 11:34

Well if we dug deeper we'd see similar thing happened at Global Tech and the USA licencee LBO Capital Corp. The PIM line at Global Tech was leased from 3DM I think but they failed to keep up payments. The debt was settled by LBO Capital Corp (who took over Global Tech) by issuing shares to 3DM rather than money being handed over. 3DM then had more LBO shares in lieu of some licence fee owed. Guess how much those shares are worth now! As far as I know LBO Capital Corp still owe a lot in past licence fees/minimum royalties but no chance of that being recouped now I guess.
I must admit the above is purely from memory and I haven't the energy to check it's all accurate so please take it as an estimation of events of a few years ago and not as gospel.
Anyway, no more ERT bashing from me here as I sold out so it's not fair on present holders who might rightly think we shouldn't be talking so negatively about the company if don't hold. I might even buy back in sometime if Mr Clayton or others can turn promise into something that pays the bills.

[2jinxed] 16/4/2013 20:27

Yes lets go back in time, Bedwas, so kb gives away bedwas at A price 850k or there about, because he sees it as A liability to the company yea .. correct me if I am wrong!! so PA now in charge, it was alleged he, PA aka Bedwas was making surf-boards!! yea right! and he was going to sell them to an Eskimo? he got something right, board but not enough to make a flat board, he played with it all IMHO.

He then gets board and moves on, but, gives, sells, for a pound, Bedwas, to A new LTD company, I remember doing a search on this Ltd no familiar names came up , but no RNS that this new company has a License from 3DM???????????????????????? and then a few months and belly up! and we then end up paying the HP for the ALPHA LINE, good deal done there. It's rotten to the core..

[cockneyrebel] 16/4/2013 19:35

Well they are burying Margaret Thatcher tomorrow but I bet I was a close run thing as to whether they buried these first.

I bet when the results come out, despite the share tanking and no contracts or deals announced Brooks will be 'excited' and 'encouraged' with the progress of the 'patented PIM process' lol.

If this stock made a noise it would be 'oink!' imo.

CR

[relaxing] 16/4/2013 17:19

Well, if Mr Clayton can stimulate potential licencees into action no doubt ERT might struggle through to commercial success. But I think it's a big "if" bearing in mind the BOD's history of employing completely inappropriately experienced people. Clayton looks on paper to be better than some employed in the past, but I am not convinced the process is such an industry changer as I was years ago, mainly because firstly, the raw material has to be fairly uniform to produce mass produced products (particularly if load bearing building products) so the raw material might end up in many cases as virgin plastics, and secondly, because so many potential licencees have not proceeded once they have investigated the PIM process (Silkwwod, Rollet, etc) for many types of low tech' products like cages, pallets and even water tanks.
I was also shocked when it transpired we owed so much money last year and although it was greeted by many shareholders as a success that Oxford Capital took on over £5 mill of debt in the form of shares, I found that the last straw and sold up completely. Even now, they are left with approx' £2 mill of debt I think and the present funding is not likely to eat into that as the money will be used in some form or another. Nope, not convinced this company is going anywhere soon but really so hope, for sentimental reasons, that they make it in the end. They have a lot of loyal PI's money at stake.

[2jinxed] 15/4/2013 20:56

RELAXING.. I hated hearing about that Bedwas fiasco too. What you didn't mention though was even though ERT paid PA to take it off their hands (due to the liabilities attached), what was not made clear was the financial guarantee on the PIM line was not passed onto PA! ERT had to pay up some time after (a lot of money if I remember correctly) after PA walked away from it, presumably after realizing he wasn't going to be commercially successful.

well I never thought he would be!!( SUCCESSFUL) his other ltd company went belly up as well! and I don't see this enrt going anywhere fast do you?