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[nico115] 25/4/2019 19:32

Yes you are

[nico115] 25/4/2019 19:16

Ooooooh jamessssssAngry are you ?Don't shout at me ..ask your idol Stephen why he got it so wrong Yes I lost 2.5p on 1.3m so I'm not happyBut at least I didn't spend all time idolising Stephen like you did ..you still think a win is a certainty James ?? Hahah what a moron you are : )

[nico115] 25/4/2019 18:23

Says the man or lady who idolises Stephen and defended him at all costs cos he wrote exactly what he/she wanted to hear !!Jamiessss don't be so gullible next time !! I spotted Stephen from the stay ..he was DQ pr man ..delusional and a fantasist Now jamesssss move on now like a good little boy

[nico115] 25/4/2019 17:51

You have lost everyone fortunes here You spouted nonsense and we all fell for it Eat humble pie And admit you got it v v wrong

[nico115] 25/4/2019 15:52

Wow you don't say I was gonna back Stephens next high conviction call in a Indonesian mining stock!!

[neo26] 25/4/2019 11:28

JNBRW

We will have to wait and see, what Jack is saying about "unjust enrichment" make sense, if they can manage to get that back it would be bonus.

Its going to be an uphill battle, very likely we get nothing back now.

IMHO

[jack1236] 25/4/2019 10:36

Andy

Agree 100% lets see what Admin comes out with.
Disregarding the forged docs, Indonesia took 70m; which is 'unjust enrichment'.

[andy] 25/4/2019 10:25

jnbrw,


Well the Paris court has been mentioned as an option, al la Oxus.


Firstly we have to be able to fund the action, and then, obviously, there will be a year or two of more waiting, and then the prospect of an appeal beyond that, so a lot more angst and patience required if they do decide to go forward.


The longer the next announcement takes suggests they are looking at their options rather than throwing in the towel, but of course they could simply be trying to assess the options with potential funders before announcing anything, so there's no guarantee of further action, although it certainly looks possible.

[jnbrw] 25/4/2019 09:50

Neo - do you think there is anywhere left we can turn realistically?

[neo26] 25/4/2019 09:39

I tell you guys something the Govt of Indonesia and Nusantara are laughing all the way to the bank, what happened to CHL was a great travesty and will remain in the history books forever.

Lesson to be learnt, avoid all investments in Indonesia, any company that is invested in Indonesia, run a mile.

[andy] 25/4/2019 07:35

Lith,


#40942


No, it's one of those dodgy made in China Australian keyboards..............

[andy] 25/4/2019 07:31

Lith,


That's the only hope remaining now, ICSID will never give us justice, IMO.

[lithological heterogeneities] 25/4/2019 07:09

Hopefully,while in administration, they can do the same as Oxus and take it via the Courts.

[jamie414] 25/4/2019 05:21

STEPHEN1946 IS A WASHING LINE KNICKER THIEF! WHO THE FACETIMES DQ WEARING THEM!

[jamie414] 25/4/2019 04:50

My predictions on Feb 6th clarified by some i P.M.Draft result sent to parties feb 2nd, with 18 Feb deadline for Amendments to be sent to ICSID.4th March Amended documents sent to parties for perusal.18th March publish Committee decision, or W/C.From Day 1 of the award I have said, Precedents set in Stone by this award are far too onerous for the award to stand, ICSID Arbitration would become totally unworkable. The original Tribunal were erroneous on 2 aspects which ICSID own rules forbid, on 2 others that common law rules, unlawful.Minnottee bar is interesting from the point of view of just how stupid many posters are, let me expand, Posters actually believe that the committee will be, "BLIND" to the lies and subterfuge that ROI have engaged in, throughout this long exhausting journey. Moreover those same, `EXPERT` posters think ICSID will allow this theatre to continue, ad infinitum.WRONG on both counts. My experience tells me, the Committee will annul the award and will have passed their findings to ICSID with comments appertaining to certain actions taken by ROI that prolonged the hearing and led to the embarrassing situation that the original tribunal found themselves in, which could have led(if the award had gone, unchallenged)to a serious miscarriage of justice.Think about that. Had CHL been unable to fund this annulment application, a very serious miscarriage of justice WOULD have occurred.ICSID, IMHO, will be minded to punish ROI for what amounts to nothing but, Criminal behaviour. Not only did ROI expropriate CHL assets, they sought to use ICSID to make that expropriation, legal. To compound matters, ROI then employed dubious, illicit methods to obtain an award that not only legalised the theft but left CHL with an enormous legal bill, meant to leave CHL without the means to fight on.Some believe ROI should be rewarded for their endeavours, I dont happen to agree.I look forward to the end game, coming soon. Very soon.

[jamie414] 25/4/2019 04:50

My predictions on Feb 6th clarified by some i P.M.Draft result sent to parties feb 2nd, with 18 Feb deadline for Amendments to be sent to ICSID.4th March Amended documents sent to parties for perusal.18th March publish Committee decision, or W/C.From Day 1 of the award I have said, Precedents set in Stone by this award are far too onerous for the award to stand, ICSID Arbitration would become totally unworkable. The original Tribunal were erroneous on 2 aspects which ICSID own rules forbid, on 2 others that common law rules, unlawful.Minnottee bar is interesting from the point of view of just how stupid many posters are, let me expand, Posters actually believe that the committee will be, "BLIND" to the lies and subterfuge that ROI have engaged in, throughout this long exhausting journey. Moreover those same, `EXPERT` posters think ICSID will allow this theatre to continue, ad infinitum.WRONG on both counts. My experience tells me, the Committee will annul the award and will have passed their findings to ICSID with comments appertaining to certain actions taken by ROI that prolonged the hearing and led to the embarrassing situation that the original tribunal found themselves in, which could have led(if the award had gone, unchallenged)to a serious miscarriage of justice.Think about that. Had CHL been unable to fund this annulment application, a very serious miscarriage of justice WOULD have occurred.ICSID, IMHO, will be minded to punish ROI for what amounts to nothing but, Criminal behaviour. Not only did ROI expropriate CHL assets, they sought to use ICSID to make that expropriation, legal. To compound matters, ROI then employed dubious, illicit methods to obtain an award that not only legalised the theft but left CHL with an enormous legal bill, meant to leave CHL without the means to fight on.Some believe ROI should be rewarded for their endeavours, I dont happen to agree.I look forward to the end game, coming soon. Very soon.

[jamie414] 25/4/2019 04:49

My predictions on Feb 6th clarified by some i P.M.Draft result sent to parties feb 2nd, with 18 Feb deadline for Amendments to be sent to ICSID.4th March Amended documents sent to parties for perusal.18th March publish Committee decision, or W/C.From Day 1 of the award I have said, Precedents set in Stone by this award are far too onerous for the award to stand, ICSID Arbitration would become totally unworkable. The original Tribunal were erroneous on 2 aspects which ICSID own rules forbid, on 2 others that common law rules, unlawful.Minnottee bar is interesting from the point of view of just how stupid many posters are, let me expand, Posters actually believe that the committee will be, "BLIND" to the lies and subterfuge that ROI have engaged in, throughout this long exhausting journey. Moreover those same, `EXPERT` posters think ICSID will allow this theatre to continue, ad infinitum.WRONG on both counts. My experience tells me, the Committee will annul the award and will have passed their findings to ICSID with comments appertaining to certain actions taken by ROI that prolonged the hearing and led to the embarrassing situation that the original tribunal found themselves in, which could have led(if the award had gone, unchallenged)to a serious miscarriage of justice.Think about that. Had CHL been unable to fund this annulment application, a very serious miscarriage of justice WOULD have occurred.ICSID, IMHO, will be minded to punish ROI for what amounts to nothing but, Criminal behaviour. Not only did ROI expropriate CHL assets, they sought to use ICSID to make that expropriation, legal. To compound matters, ROI then employed dubious, illicit methods to obtain an award that not only legalised the theft but left CHL with an enormous legal bill, meant to leave CHL without the means to fight on.Some believe ROI should be rewarded for their endeavours, I dont happen to agree.I look forward to the end game, coming soon. Very soon.

[jamie414] 25/4/2019 04:49

My predictions on Feb 6th clarified by some i P.M.Draft result sent to parties feb 2nd, with 18 Feb deadline for Amendments to be sent to ICSID.4th March Amended documents sent to parties for perusal.18th March publish Committee decision, or W/C.From Day 1 of the award I have said, Precedents set in Stone by this award are far too onerous for the award to stand, ICSID Arbitration would become totally unworkable. The original Tribunal were erroneous on 2 aspects which ICSID own rules forbid, on 2 others that common law rules, unlawful.Minnottee bar is interesting from the point of view of just how stupid many posters are, let me expand, Posters actually believe that the committee will be, "BLIND" to the lies and subterfuge that ROI have engaged in, throughout this long exhausting journey. Moreover those same, `EXPERT` posters think ICSID will allow this theatre to continue, ad infinitum.WRONG on both counts. My experience tells me, the Committee will annul the award and will have passed their findings to ICSID with comments appertaining to certain actions taken by ROI that prolonged the hearing and led to the embarrassing situation that the original tribunal found themselves in, which could have led(if the award had gone, unchallenged)to a serious miscarriage of justice.Think about that. Had CHL been unable to fund this annulment application, a very serious miscarriage of justice WOULD have occurred.ICSID, IMHO, will be minded to punish ROI for what amounts to nothing but, Criminal behaviour. Not only did ROI expropriate CHL assets, they sought to use ICSID to make that expropriation, legal. To compound matters, ROI then employed dubious, illicit methods to obtain an award that not only legalised the theft but left CHL with an enormous legal bill, meant to leave CHL without the means to fight on.Some believe ROI should be rewarded for their endeavours, I dont happen to agree.I look forward to the end game, coming soon. Very soon.

[jamie414] 25/4/2019 04:49

My predictions on Feb 6th clarified by some i P.M.Draft result sent to parties feb 2nd, with 18 Feb deadline for Amendments to be sent to ICSID.4th March Amended documents sent to parties for perusal.18th March publish Committee decision, or W/C.From Day 1 of the award I have said, Precedents set in Stone by this award are far too onerous for the award to stand, ICSID Arbitration would become totally unworkable. The original Tribunal were erroneous on 2 aspects which ICSID own rules forbid, on 2 others that common law rules, unlawful.Minnottee bar is interesting from the point of view of just how stupid many posters are, let me expand, Posters actually believe that the committee will be, "BLIND" to the lies and subterfuge that ROI have engaged in, throughout this long exhausting journey. Moreover those same, `EXPERT` posters think ICSID will allow this theatre to continue, ad infinitum.WRONG on both counts. My experience tells me, the Committee will annul the award and will have passed their findings to ICSID with comments appertaining to certain actions taken by ROI that prolonged the hearing and led to the embarrassing situation that the original tribunal found themselves in, which could have led(if the award had gone, unchallenged)to a serious miscarriage of justice.Think about that. Had CHL been unable to fund this annulment application, a very serious miscarriage of justice WOULD have occurred.ICSID, IMHO, will be minded to punish ROI for what amounts to nothing but, Criminal behaviour. Not only did ROI expropriate CHL assets, they sought to use ICSID to make that expropriation, legal. To compound matters, ROI then employed dubious, illicit methods to obtain an award that not only legalised the theft but left CHL with an enormous legal bill, meant to leave CHL without the means to fight on.Some believe ROI should be rewarded for their endeavours, I dont happen to agree.I look forward to the end game, coming soon. Very soon.