Cloudified Share Discussion Threads

[sos100] 16/4/2016 10:53

wonder how many guys have bought this week or will still be holding for the interim hearing results...

[masarap] 16/4/2016 10:47

For the UK to do a trade pact with a country in Breach of a Bilateral Investment Treaty would be a betrayal of the principle of protecting British business interests.

What message would it send out about how much the UK Govt values its treaties?

Seems highly inappropriate to me unless it is simultaneously announced with a CHL settlement.

I'll be sending emails to relevant ministers and the U.K. Ambassador to make this point and would encourage other shareholders to do likewise. I'll put up the email links later this weekend.

[pb01] 16/4/2016 10:43

Very exciting week ahead for CHL holders.

[patviera] 16/4/2016 10:40

No Debbie That's a much better post from u compared to your usual dribble ; )

[pug151] 16/4/2016 10:40

The second to last item on that JP list is 'disputes settlements'.

[debbiegee] 16/4/2016 10:33

Thanx rettah ,nice to see some news makes a change from the dribble :-)))

What would be the point of a trading pact with them as they dont honour any of the issues mentioned ?

Unless they want to make us an example on the world stage of how honourable they can be when pushed in a corner with no way out ?
Just silly wishful thinking ?

[janestone] 16/4/2016 10:19

Comparing Oxus to CHL is apples to pears. Oxus withdrew from their licence by declaring a force majeure, which is completely different circumstances of having a licence revoked.

[rettah] 16/4/2016 09:46

hxxp://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/04/16/indonesia-eu-to-discuss-trade-pact-during-jokowi-visit.html

[patviera] 16/4/2016 09:38

I agree orbHaving read all the posts here I won't limit this upside to 60pAll I'd say is downside is to 0p and when we were 13p I was the most bullish poster hereNow we are 23p the downside is bigger so as we rise we must be carful and weigh up the odds

[theorb] 16/4/2016 09:24

This share was changing hands for £1.20 before ROI stole it from CHL. That was £1.20 without any coal having been dug. Why would compensation be worth only half the previous value. A lot of investors a and no profits anticipated for years. A lot of investors are still holding CHL shares probably purchased at over £1 and of course the directors including the Indonesian ones have purchased shares of around 60p.
I know the OXUS arbitration is weighing heavy in some peoples memories and I am usually very cautious with predictions myself but for the arbitration or an ocs to result in 60p would in effect mean CHL have lost, so I feel that if we lose we get nothing, but if we get a settlement it will be over £2.00 Net.

[pb01] 16/4/2016 09:12

Funny post pug ))))

[patviera] 16/4/2016 08:50

RoseanneWe could get a price of 250p but I think roi will look to settle so I'm out at 60p if we get thereWe also need to raise money to get to next stageI still think good odds here but can't see above 30p until we get a result

[patviera] 16/4/2016 08:38

Love it pugWint look good to have this over the president head!!

[pug151] 16/4/2016 08:11

Imagine the conversation - Mr President I know you are packing for Europe but we just need you to confirm we are still engaged in the Churchill case. Our team decided not to pay our agreed share of the costs and we have to respond. Sorry nobody told you.....When is the deadline? Just when you have your meeting in Brussels to discuss easing bilateral obstacles to trade and investment actually. Yes Mr President it is terrible timing. If we say we are still engaged it will highlight our failure to honour our financial obligations under the BIT. If we don't respond we face ICSID proceeding quite rapidly to a headline award. We could ( and this would be a smart move) use this as an opportunity to say that we are seeking a settlement as part of a wider transformation of the investment climate. Yes Mr President we do think you should prepare for a question from the press....

[mrshaungcm] 15/4/2016 22:07

15-Apr-1616:18:4521.9045,607Sell* 21.7522.509,988O



14-Apr-1608:08:0829.20180,000Buy* 21.7522.5052.56kO


13-Apr-1616:23:5520.1976525,000Sell* 21.7522.50106.04kO

[stephen1946] 15/4/2016 21:18

I have never mentioned money and dont intend to second guess now, my thoughts on price stay in my head, BUT i am not here for these past 2 years for 60p.

[patviera] 15/4/2016 21:12

GoodblokeIt won't matter then as we will have win it ,it will be purely procedural and I think they will settle or we will get taken over with someone maybe wanting to take this thru to the end..?Either way we are 60p if we get positive tribunal result and I will take my money off the tableGreat odds here but can lose all your money

[weegeordie] 15/4/2016 20:57

decades at least - best to look elsewhere don't you think?

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 20:55

Pat if there is another court case as you say it could drag on for many months then ?

[pug151] 15/4/2016 20:48

I had not previously focused on the fact that ROI has not deployed a top flight legal team but has used a local Indonesian law firm. This would have cost a fraction of the millions we have spent (and plan to spend.) This is an interesting decision by a rich Asian country. This is also another crucial difference compared with the Uzbek /Oxus/UNCITRAL case. Perhaps they have always known this was a lost cause and opted for cheap and easy delay and foot dragging. An intelligent strategy given their poor hand but one which cannot limp on much longer.

[patviera] 15/4/2016 19:52

Bothered?Both losers who can't face the truth

[top_banana1] 15/4/2016 19:46

Best to copy WeeGeordie and filter.


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