Cloudified Share Discussion Threads

[tivoliworldgaming] 15/4/2016 09:54

We could be over 50p this time next week if ROI do not take part.

[43418937] 15/4/2016 09:51

Lilac

are you saying a move of 30% is coming? I suppose you are saying on the downside. Maybe you are right the retrace is based on the 78% gain? Yesterday a few % down overall and possibly today is when most of the profit taking will starts?

[webshares] 15/4/2016 09:49

Same as. 19p seems a good entry level

[5baggersrus] 15/4/2016 09:47

19p and I am in .....

[1lilac] 15/4/2016 09:44

Overall yesterday it was down -1.5% on the day after a +30% move, so in effect a swing of -32%.

Today it's starting to decline slowly unfortunately and it's second day of retrace after a 78% gain.

[pb01] 15/4/2016 09:40

If the ROI do not re-engage, the tribunal will deliver their decision and the case moves immediately to Quantum unopposed. CHL are then in-line for a very big pay out.

It could be delaying tactics from the ROI by not answering and not paying their fees - but any attempt at a face saving deal is long gone for them.

[1lilac] 15/4/2016 09:40

What’s Debbie views for today? Hope we can see some of her research. Always appreciated.

I believe in CHL, but I know there are distressed punters who bought in the spike, so this is a risk I do not want to take when there are not enough buyers around to absorb their background selling. That's why I have been fast on buy then quick scalps.

That’s only my take.

[flyingc] 15/4/2016 09:32

If news in the next week is favourable we are going into orbit. The chart is primed like it was in early summer last year (look at the long term chart and see with your own eyes - don't take my word for it).

But this time the endgame may well be upon us. What will that do to the share price if ROI are indeed holed below the waterline ? Even a resolution of just £100M would be a multibagger from here.

So go on all you derampers and naysayers who come on this BB trashing CHL and the longs. Have the courage of your convictions and bet your house, wife and kids on a short against CHL :-)

You know it makes sense (actually it might do depending on your wife and kids....).

GLA

FC

[fidra] 15/4/2016 09:28

I dont think there is an opportunity for them to pay up on Wednesday.That opportunity passed when we paid.They do not pay us back unless directed.I dont think that will happen.Unless we are awarded costs for this part .Normally costs given at the end.

The important bit is we cannot now be surely far from a decision on this part of the arbitration.

We will still have to present a case.I think by now the problem will be clear to the tribunal.But we must still present.

It may not give us the chance to update our sum except for interest on the original.If GOI do not argue that we are asking to much.So that may be a downside as DQ thought more like 2.3$BN(?)is what he said it should be

[pb01] 15/4/2016 09:26

ICSID is head quartered in Washington. The case is being heard in Singapore.

[daddy warbucks] 15/4/2016 09:26

LilacYou are not as daft as you were trying to make out are you. ;0)

[spartikas] 15/4/2016 09:26

morning all....price at the moment is 21.50p and will look like chicken feed once news breaks out.

I added a small amount yesterday at 26p to my collection, pleased with this additional new amount.

The news this week has completely changed the game plan how embarrassing for ROI....it's only a matter of time now!

good luck to everyone, especially the long term holders.

[daddy warbucks] 15/4/2016 09:25

Thanks for the info. I thought Churchill was making moves to have the matter settled and assumed it would be in Wahington.

[pb01] 15/4/2016 09:25

Yep that's 11 am UK time. So we could get an announcement around midday on Wednesday.

[fidra] 15/4/2016 09:23

DW

They have to 6pm Singapore time on Wednesday to confirm if they are still engaged.

Nothing to do with Washington.

I assume we will get an RNS as to the position on Wednesday.

[weegeordie] 15/4/2016 09:21

imagine watching tennis with some of these clowns - "the ball's gone left, the ball's gone right, the ball's gone left, the ball's gone right......."

[2magpies] 15/4/2016 09:19

The Govt of Indonesia can't pay 200k?

Simply not credible. Too big a country to struggle to pay such a small amount.

Is it more likely that they won't pay, because they see no possibility of a win, and may as well negotiate a settlement?

Or, they may simply pay up by Wednesday. That cannot be ruled out.

[1lilac] 15/4/2016 09:18

Daddy

Not paying a compensation is not a credit event. Credit event is basically a sovereign bond default, that's when the credit rating is marked down.

Not paying a compensation has absolutely no risk on ROI credit worthiness.

[1lilac] 15/4/2016 09:14

Hi web

I really do not want my goolies to be crushed here. I will wait for share price to hit MA before I re-enter, but I wish you well. Each to their own.

We are all the same tribe. Us against the nasties & MMS crooks.

[daddy warbucks] 15/4/2016 09:14

1lilac - 15 Apr 2016 - 09:09 - 2652 of 2654 - 0If they can't pay $200K, how can they pay $1.2bn? That's a genuine questionHonestly. A genuine question?Let's humour you. They can't afford to pay it. They will go into default. Their credit rating will go to junk. They will have to pay exorbitant rates of interest. Need I go on.Oh by the way, the money can be seized from Indonesian assets around most of the world.Let's await your next fantasy share dealing Walter Mitty.

[1lilac] 15/4/2016 09:09

If they can't pay $200K, how can they pay $1.2bn? That's a genuine question