Chamberlin Share Chat (CMH)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Chamberlin	LSE:CMH	London	Ordinary Share	GB0001870228	ORD 25P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	+0.00p	+0.00%	84.50p	82.00p	87.00p	84.50p	83.50p	84.50p	300	10:49:16

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering	35.0	-0.2	-3.3	-	6.72

Chamberlin Share Discussion Threads

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19/10/2017 09:46	I'm a shareholder myself here also 2realist. I thought kwackerh2's post added some welcome balance. The contracts that the CEO went out and won should have been company changing. Hence the share price action of the last 12 months. But they have stumbled on delivery. So that jury is back out again. Asagi (long CMH)	asagi	Read Full Thread Reply
19/10/2017 08:58	Time will tell but whoever is the CEO the fundamentals are difficult, the company overgeared and borrowing more to climb out of the problem. And the pension deficit is massive - so the old share price you refer to didn’t look backed by fundamentals. Are you from the company’a PR?	2realist	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 21:48	The business has invested £5m in a state of the art machine shop and it hasnt hit the ground running leading to a delay in payback. The issues are being sorted and the fundamentals of this business are no different now to what they were six months ago when the share price was double its present level. The directors are overpaid and thats the case in almost every business I look at and it seems to be the way of the world these days. The CEO inherited a business that had been run aground and was in a mess. The previous CEO paid dividends when the business was on its knees and his head was in the sand. Nolan has made big calls and done all of the right things to reposition the business for long term growth and expansion by logical progression into machining and investing heavily to secure a future for a business which didnt have one when he arrived.	kwackerh2	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 20:17	Not all, I know one with a declarable stake, who is as far from docile as is humanly possible.	redartbmud	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 19:36	"Take note" ! Action not words. Seen it heard it all before worn that shirt etc. etc. Shareholders like sheep docile creatures easily led.	simon templar qc	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 19:33	Agree with you that they need a placing/ fund raising and that the Pension is the real issue. Regrettably putting a lid on the pension liability is often 3x the balance sheet liability. So guessing maybe 15m or so. That’s why the trustees have a charge over all the companies. So pension plus the debt could be a 20m capital raising to have debt free Plc with a foundry plus some small engineering businesses. Difficult without a restructuring.	2realist	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 19:28	Agree with you that they need a placing/ fund raising and that the Pension is the real issue. Regrettably putting a lid on the pension liability is often 3x the balance sheet liability. So guessing maybe 15m or so. That’s why the trustees have a charge over all the companies. So pension plus the debt could be a 20m capital raising to have debt free Plc with a foundry plus some small engineering businesses. Difficult without a restructuring.	2realist	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 18:52	2r Wish I was as happy as you appear to be. Maybe I will keep my opinion to myself in future. Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chance. hey ho...	redartbmud	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 18:45	The CEO is 60 and on the basis of his only company directorship - stayed for 12 months - he has struck gold. At Wall Cholmondley a good consistently profitable private company where he was for a short while the highest paid director gets 125k versus his 300 plus! Let’s all find a moribund Plc to employ us. Preferably with businesses so difficult there’s No expectations from .Beats investing any day. no wonder CEO doesn’t have any shares !!!’	2realist	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 18:33	Don't shoot the messenger. I am on your side. Le Grand Fromage didn't take long to move on the incumbent CEO after he had taken over. The FD removed himself. Given the state of the finances that he inherited, I suspect that he had to offer packages commensurate with the risk and the size of the job needed to put things right. In my opinion they weren't far off bust at the time, and I bet that the bank had to be convinced to maintain it's support. I also believe that the new team has done well to get this far. The customer wants semi-finished components that require a state of the art machine shop. It looks as though they have a quality issue to address. Again that does not surprise me, but they have to fix it fast: a) For the customer. b) To improve profitability. There is little room for error. The pension fund liability is disproportionate to the value of the business and will be a drag for a while yet. Can they get away with a placing? That is cheaper than a full blown rights issue. Either way, arms need to be twisted and I am unsure they could pull off either without sensible profits to match turnover. Just musings.	redartbmud	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 18:15	Lol....notes are easy. This company has a long history of overpaying directors and producing very little return for shareholders. The institutions just seem to sit back but of course it will be a tiny tiny part of any of their portfolios. I have no holding but see this excessive remuneration all the time.....lower basic salaries based on market caps and bonuses up to 100% of salary but only in line with the actual shareholder returns each year would be my way.....why should directors get huge bonuses if shareholders are not getting dividends year after year ??	davidosh	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 17:59	david He said that he would take note of the comment.	redartbmud	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 17:55	Unfortunately shareholder apathy allows directors to take advantage of shareholders however the law does allow shareholders to take action on an individual basis but its not easy and time consuming and highly stressful.	simon templar qc	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 15:44	redartbmud.....What did the remuneration chairman say in answer to the shareholders question about it ? Even worse though if only a lone voice you can be sure they will do nothing. It needs a significant vote against....	davidosh	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 12:46	I was there and one of them did question the remuneration policy and voted against it.	redartbmud	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 11:47	This is the trouble with shareholders they are ready to grumble but take little positive action.	simon templar qc	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 09:47	At the Annual General Meeting to be held on 20 July 2017 (see the Notice of Annual General Meeting on pages 71 to 73), all of the directors will retire and, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election. So how many of you attended the Agm and questioned the remuneration policy or indeed actively questioned any of the policies or voted against the re-appointment of board members if unhappy at what is happening to the company ? How many of the institutions voted against and did they approve remuneration ? It is no use just complaining here. I attended an Agm yesterday where remuneration was equally bad as a percentage of profits and market cap and I told directors it should be reduced or they should resign as the pay was upper quartile and performance lower quartile in their sector. ShareSoc can help with campaigns but sitting here and moaning will do nothing !	davidosh	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 08:54	The best outcome ( for the company and employees - not the shareholders )would be for a share issue to take out the pension fund and the debt so they can do something with the company. That’s probably 15m plus. Regretfully there’s no value to existing or future shareholders from that because the underlying businesses aren’t worth anywhere near 15m.	2realist	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 08:30	Falling knife - stay out. Massive pension deficit and too much bank debt. Lenders likely to be knockning on the door.	baner	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 08:15	Yea not just competent person but a competent person on a sensible salary	my retirement fund	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 07:58	We should be very close to a highly dilutive Placing of new equity now. Lenders are quickly losing their patience with this grossly overpaid management team. Significant increase in turnover with no profits = severe cash outflow. Chamberlin is now in a dangerous situation financially. BOD should resign and make room for competent person in order to give lenders and shareholders a bit of comfort. If possible.	baner	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 07:54	I'm sure there will be less polite comments.	paleje	Read Full Thread Reply
18/10/2017 07:47	It looks as though these overpaid executive directors could not get drunk in a brewery to put it politely.	kneecaps2	Read Full Thread Reply

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