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CAML Central Asia Metals Plc

155.20
-2.80 (-1.77%)
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Central Asia Metals Plc LSE:CAML London Ordinary Share GB00B67KBV28 ORD USD0.01
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -2.80 -1.77% 155.20 867,467 16:35:20
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
154.20 154.40 164.00 154.00 164.00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Copper Ores USD 214.44M USD 50.86M USD 0.2796 5.53 287.41M
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
16:40:42 O 181,808 159.2306 GBX

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Posted at 22/5/2025 13:06 by tim000
It’s obviously true that there are development risks. But equally there is substantial upside to the central case projections arising from copper prices and LOM via exploration. I wouldn’t bet the farm on CAML, but it now offers substantial capital growth prospects in the medium term which was not the case before - see the longer term share price chart. People on ADVFN tend to be in search of multibaggers. CAML has now entered that market. And for mining a commodity which has very strong fundamentals wrt future global supply shortfalls.
Posted at 22/5/2025 12:19 by 1knocker
As I see it:-
1. this acquisition, if and when they get it up and running, doubles CAML's production
2. the cost of acquisition and estimated cost of development are affordable
3. it is in a tier 1 'safe' jurisdiction
4. if all goes to plan, it will be value accretive.

But
5. It is still early stage, and may not prove to be as good a prospect as early investigations suggest
6. the success of the project depends upon development of a new mine on time and on budget. Slippage in either could radically alter the financial equation
7. it is 4000 miles away from CAML's current operations, in a jurisdiction of which CAML has no practical experience, and in which it has at present no management presence.
8. Even producing mining operations are prone to operational setbacks and political/regulatory risks. CAML's current operations are no exception (cf the travails of AAZ).This acquisition and prospective development costs are on a sufficiently substantial scale relative to the existing business that CAML can't now and for many years to come afford to suffer any serious setbacks in its present operations.

I can't even guess as to whether the price is good. I don't believe anyone can: see point 5. All we can say at present is that the vendor was happy to sell it now, at the price struck; it is happier to have the money than the project, and CAML has paid more than any other prospective purchaser was prepared to pay. That, of course is true of any sale and purchase.

In this instance though, the development risk (point 6) is higher than for the north American prospective purchasers who were not prepared to improve on CAML's bid: see point 7.

One piece of the jigsaw I have not seen is a projected timeline and CAPEX flow to production. The absence of that information may well be significant, and a warning. One thing which is clear though, is that CAML can't afford any interruption to its present operations and profits (point 8)..

The only conclusion I can draw at present is that CAML's management are going to need to be on the top of their mine development game. I hope we have the right new CEO for this new phase of CAML's business, but I can't make any guess as to whether we have as I don't know much about him.

The muted market reaction seems appropriate. This could be the making, or the near breaking of CAML.
Posted at 25/4/2025 11:47 by dougmachin
IF (!!) the divi holds for the next few years, then accumulating at these levels is a real winner.

If the share price goes up above 160p...170p... 180p... then the chance to get that delicious divi yield has gone. The longer the share price stays down here is kind of a good thing!

Not sure when I will stop topping-up, but not stopped yet!

I remember from my calculations that at this SP, even if they don't get another asset, then the divi payments of 18p is basically all profit, as the amount of cash they will generate (and accumulate) over the years will pay back a purchase price of 155p.

So grab those divis + wait for the purchase of another asset or a massive payout (worth the current SP) if CAML stops trading when the 2 assets are used up.
Posted at 25/4/2025 11:18 by dougmachin
Just keep topping up at these levels.

CAML's just a bit boring for some. 11% yield. Many want 100-200% share price increase. That's not going to happen here, unless they get a new resource sorted, which probably isn't going to happen for a while.

Also, Cu down today, although still up at decent levels.

Up to 155p, is top-up territory. The worry of course is, if for whatever reason, they have to miss a divi payment. Nothing's guaranteed. But for a potential 11-12% divi return, it's worth being slightly overweight in CAML, IMO.
Posted at 18/3/2025 13:59 by return_of_the_apeman
Last time futures were this high in 2024 and 2017 the share price peaked at £2.30 and £3.20 respectively. Today the share price is stuck around multi-year lows. If the price of copper, zinc and lead just remain at these prices we are in for a fantastic year
Posted at 01/2/2025 00:51 by dougmachin
SLP used to be a favorite of mine. But then there's been the relentless reduction in prices of Pt group metals, especially Rhodium that was driving the profits of SLP.

With those metal prices going up (only slightly though) and with the Cr project coming online, it could be worth looking at again, especially with the current buy-backs.

There isn't a futures market (is that right?) for Rh, so the scope for volatility for Rh prices is high.

The divis for SLP at 1p + 1p is 4.2% yield (Ok, +1p special divi last year). So better than nothing and should be maintained as (surely) Pt group metal prices aren't going to go lower.

My main issue with SLP is what are the underlying reasons for driving up the prices of those metals (and hence maintaining or increasing the divi)? For CAML, the investment case for Cu is clear. It's certainly not guaranteed (who knows how China's stimulus package is going to work?), but with Cu, there is a clear case for investment (IMO).

SLP also have a lot of capital costs in FY 2025, I think.

Even Zn & Pb, when watching an interview with GF from CAML, he talked about the purity of 1 of those that CAML produces (can't remember which one it was), so much better than other producers.

SLP - good presentation here:


Overall, SLP definitely worth another look (especially if your exposure to metals is not too much already), but the main question is, which metal(s) do you think are going to go up in price and why? This is why I invest in CAML and not SLP now.
Posted at 30/12/2024 16:29 by dougmachin
MORE ANALYSIS
So I thought I would try to give the amount 1 CAML share is worth in 2034.
This is on the basis that there has been no “transformative” purchase.

Also, I’m not saying that this is the share price that would be achieved, but this is the amount of cash you would be getting back in 2034 (for your original 1 share at 155p), based on the amount your shareholding has increased (due to CAMLs increased cash in the bank and you increasing your holding by reinvesting the divi).

[1] EXTRA CASH IN THE BANK EACH YEAR
H1 2024 cash = 56.3m // FY 2024 cash (assumed) = 63.4m
Without the Sasa CAPEX, each year can add 15-17m extra cash to the bank (assumed)
This would give (10 * 17m) = 170m
Add the 63.4m = 233.4m USD = 177.4m UKP
This gives 97p / share (182m shares)

[2] DIVIDENDS EACH YEAR
Dividends at 18p for 10 years = 180p (assumed)

[3] COMPOUNDING EFFECT OF THE DIVIDEND
There’s a great compounding effect of reinvesting the divis, especially over 10 years.
Purchase 18p worth of a 155p CAML share, you then get the 11.6% divi on this too.
At the end of the next year, that 18p worth of a share is giving you 2p of extra divi.
Basically the 18p divi is now worth 20p.
If you keep doing this for 9 years, then the original 18p divi is worth 48p.

Repeat this for the next 9 years worth of divis too.
So for 2026-2034, the 18p divi ends up being worth 43p at the yield of 11.6%.

For all 10 years, this gives an extra value of 130p.

FINAL TOTAL
This gives a final value of your original 155p share = 180p + 97p + 130p = 407p.
This gives a 10% compounded annual growth from 155p, which is decent.

DRIVING THAT PRICE POTENTIALLY HIGHER
There’s still the extra 5 years of life at Sasa to 2039.
Metal price increases over the next 10 years, to increase the above.

RISKS
As the LoM approaches the end, the throughput will be less.
Metal prices might not go higher (but surely Cu and Zn are going higher medium term).

As Sasa has not been a thumpingly good purchase, I would hope the BoD would only purchase a new asset that is truly transformative. So if they did purchase a new asset, then it would increase that 407p target substantially (even with any potential dilution, borrowing or temporary pausing of the divi to purchase the new asset).

So, for me, I think 155p and around here is a good buy.
Of course the US is a risk now IMO, with the markets there going up 20% 2-years in a row.
CAML Q4 operations update in mid January.
Posted at 26/12/2024 06:20 by dougmachin
HAPPY CHRISTMAS!
Some Boxing Day analysis, looking at 2024 Vs 2023.
Trying to predict the maintenance (likelihood) of the 2024 H2 9p dividend...

2023 H1 cash generated = 42.7m
2024 H1 cash generated = 42.4m

This would factor in:
[1] Amount produced
[2] Prices of metals
[3] Cost of production

So for H1 comparison, it’s the same.
From that, the dividend was also the same at 9p.

Now to look at H2 comparison of 2023 Vs 2024.

Cash in the bank:
2022 start = 59.2m
2022 end = 60.6m
2023 H1 start = 60.6m
2023 H1 end = 50.6m (paid forward tax)
2023 H2 start = 50.6m
2023 H2 end = 57.2m
2024 H1 start = 57.2m
2024 H1 end = 56.3m
2024 H2 start = 56.3m
2024 H2 end = ???m

My view is, it would be good to get back above 60 million cash in the bank.
Whilst keeping the 9p dividend for 2024 H2.

So ASSUMING (will address this later) CAML can generate the same amount of cash in 2024 H2, compared to 2023 H2. This means generating 51.5m cash.

2024 H2 (assumptions)
Cash generated = +51.5m
Dividends @ 9p = -21.4m
Interest received = +1.2m
Income tax = -9.0m
CAPEX = -15.2m (informed in H1 presentation, giving 23.5m for the year)
This gives final cash of 63.4m = GREAT !!

For “Cash generated of 51.5m”. Can this be achieved in 2024 H2 (same as 2023 H2)?
[1] Amount produced (compare 2024 vs 2023)
For H1 comparison (comparing 2024 vs 2023):
Cu = -1.6%
Zn = -7.7%
Pb = -6.3%

For Q3 comparison (comparing 2024 vs 2023)
Cu = -0.6%
Zn = -7.0%
Pb = -2.5%
So, production is getting better in Q3 compared to H1.
Also, this is improving / maintaining into Q4.
And the head grades are also improving in Q3 / maintaining into Q4 of 2024.

Point is, H2 is looking better than H1, when comparing back to 2023 vs 2024.

[2] Prices of metals
H1 actual price change for CAML from H1 2023 to H1 2024
Cu = +6.4%
Zn = -0.7%
Pb = +3.0%
With these price increases, it offset the production decreases.

Looking at statista website, this gives the following for H1 2023 to H1 2024:
Cu = +4.5%
Zn = -7.0%
Pb = -0.4%
So based on that CAML, did well in H1 2024 compared to H1 2023.
Statista takes day 1 of each month as the price.

Looking at statista website again, this gives the following for H2 2023 to H2 2024:
Cu = +11.7%
Zn = +17.1%
Pb = -5.6%
Which is fantastic overall.

Looking at graphs of H2 2023 to H2 2024, these %ages are in the right range, certainly in the correct direction (positive / negative).

[3] Cost of production
This went up in 2024 H1. Should stabilise for 2024 H2…?
Inflation is coming down (reagents / wages).
The solar plant will help.

CONCLUSIONS:
H2 production is better than H1 for 2024 (for each time period compared to 2023).
Metal prices are better in H2 than H1 for 2024 (again compared to 2023).

So, yes, I think that if 2023 H2 generated 51.5m cash, then 2024 H2 can generate (at least) 51.5m cash. Subtract the CAPEX and tax costs.

This gives:
The capacity to pay 9p dividend in 2024 H2
For the total cash in the bank to go above 60 million

LONG TERM:
If Sasa CAPEX is (finally) finished, then that releases another 15-18 million / year to add to the “cash in the bank”. (I removed the sustaining capital already).

Price of Cu - this will be interesting to watch. Of course, I’m bullish on this. Really hoping that it will remain above 9,000 USD/ton and proceed higher.

Price of Zn - Not too sure about Zn, hopefully will remain at least the same. Am looking into factors affecting Zn prices.

Price of Pb - Unfortunately, will probably go down, but again hopefully, not by too much.

I’m certainly watching these metal prices with interest.

Also, of course, are future possibilities in Kazakhstan and Scotland.
Posted at 24/9/2024 11:27 by petersinthemarket
Going xDiv for 9p on wed 26th sep. - share price on a real run atm.
I am a newbie to this company and would like to buy.
Does anyone have an informed view on whether a buy before or after xDiv is the best for a long term hold. Given that the share price of many shares falls by about the div value after xDiv and some shares fall more heavily than others. I haven't been watching this share for long enough to know how xDix day affects it's share price
Any comments?
pete
Posted at 13/3/2024 15:00 by tag57
Surprised CAML share price is down at this level given the price of copper, lead and zinc.
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