Carillion Share Discussion Threads

[edmundshaw] 27/2/2017 22:02

red, they may buy and sell, but that is equivalent to long trading, and trading has a low success rate. Hedge funds proper should be coming up with something more sophisticated...

[redartbmud] 27/2/2017 20:37

salchow

They also buy/sell shares. They can cover their costs of holding shorts in these trsdes.

m4

well done but the Establishment rules ok. Long live the Establishment with false teeth maybe?

[brando69] 27/2/2017 19:46

is anyone monitoring the weekly stock on loan? that will give an indication of short positions held

[salchow] 27/2/2017 19:44

Ch1ck post 3912 - sadly shorters pay dividends rather than receiving them. A cut in dividend is what they want. This share has been shorted down all the way from around 380p. This very fact discourages most people from investing.

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 19:18

m4tinu - thanks for you action, it is a good start. This will give the Authority a handle to start looking into the issue. Well done!

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 17:56

WJ - please extend your price prediction up to 300.00 or little over, I really like to know when I can start taking my profit. In 3 to 5 months time?

[ch1ck] 27/2/2017 15:28

We are on a bit of a tear at the moWatching this like a hawk

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 12:59

Watch them do it, their computers are set! 2.08 finish?!!

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 12:55

Spoole5 - I believe that is what shorters had done in then last week or so, but I am doubtful that they will continue to do this at a time so close to the day of result announcement.

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 12:45

spoole5 - we are happy together!

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 12:45

Although the shorters do tend to shoot it down in the afternoons!

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 12:43

Ha ha, being quite heavily invested here i can assure you it is not my wish!!

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 12:43

spooles5 - shall we now united and wish the share price of Carillion goes north?

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 12:37

WJ - thanks for your information. Good finding!

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 12:11

And covered twice by earnings.

[w1ndjammer] 27/2/2017 12:03

looks like we have 10 shareholders all holding around 5% each these all have
and average holding above 300p

It seems only Black rock who have a 8.81% holding are part of the short crew
obviously acting as an hedge they are short 3.92% so effectively 4.9% long

there has been a progressive divi now for over 18 years can`t see it being cut

WJ.

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 11:34

I'm averaged at 2.35, would have bought some more if we saw 2 quid before weds. Doesn't look like will happen now.

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 11:25

spoole5 - We holders will all rely on you to keep on buying to save us if the result comes in negative. I have my confidence on you.

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 10:46

Or they could just open up new short positions to take the price down further.

[ch1ck] 27/2/2017 10:38

I'm massively into these now, any shorters should be reevaluating their position. A dividend cut would be a double whammy for them as its already in the share price and means they would not be compensated as much for holding on to them if the price was to rise.It will be a domino effect with any shorters switching to buy will have a massive impact

[spoole5] 27/2/2017 10:02

will be impossible to wind down short positions of 25% though. Any meaningful buying and mm's sensing the shorters want to cover will see a massive bear squeeze.

[kcsham] 27/2/2017 10:00

It would a bloodbath on Wednesday unless the shorters are satisfied with what they got and retreat before result day. Which party will be the victim? It has to be seen. Down side should be limited and upside could be 30p plus.