Assetco Share Chat (ASTO)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Assetco	LSE:ASTO	London	Ordinary Share	GB00B42VYZ16	ORD 10P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	+0.00p	+0.00%	320.00p	300.00p	340.00p	320.00p	320.00p	320.00p	0	06:39:00

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Support Services	24.9	2.2	17.8	18.0	3.91

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14/4/2018 15:56	They do have a case but having consulted with a barrister who is involved in this field (and without access to all the facts), there are few precedents where auditors and lawyers have been successfully sued. w1	woozle1	Read Full Thread Reply
13/4/2018 11:08	This is the test for this case. As such ASTO will have to prove that this was an advice case, which looks like a high test. Lawyers only draft legal agreements and auditors prepare report and accounts. The SAAMCo principle In delivering the sole judgment, Lord Sumption considered the development and application of the SAAMCo principle, as well as what he described as the various misunderstandings in relation to it. The key points emerging from his analysis are as follows: The SAAMCo principle is a general principle of the law of damages, which requires an analysis of the scope of the professional's duty to protect their client against risks associated with a transaction. It is not a matter of causation. The principle distinguishes between so called 'advice' cases and 'information' cases. Whilst criticising the descriptive adequacy of those labels, Lord Sumption clarified that: 'Advice' cases are those where the professional provided advice to their client whether or not to enter into the transaction and, in so doing, was under a duty to consider all relevant matters and protect the client against the full range of risks associated with the transaction. In such cases, the professional was legally responsible for the decision to enter the transaction and, if negligent, the client would in principle be entitled to recover all losses flowing from the transaction. 'Information' cases are those where the professional provided only a limited part of the range of information (which could include advice in the way that word is commonly understood) taken into account by the client in forming their own decision whether or not to enter into the transaction. In such cases, the professional is not legally responsible for the decision to enter the transaction and will only be liable for the financial consequences of the specific information provided by him/her being wrong. Furthermore, that is the case even if the material provided by the professional was known to be critical to the client's decision to enter the transaction. The fact that the client would not have entered the transaction had the professional provided correct information is not sufficient to establish liability.	woozle1	Read Full Thread Reply
13/4/2018 11:02	Hi ALS The precedent is not great and that for these types of litigation ASTO will have to prove that it relied exclusively on the audit and more and this is tricky as making an investment decision involves a number of factors. A recent example is BPE Solicitors v Hughes-Holland. Hughes Holland claimed that BPE had acted negligently in preparing the loan agreement - as ASTO say is the case with GT audit - and indeed the court found that BPE had acted negligently. However, BPE were not responsible for the loss as it did not opine on the value of the business, which the courts view as a commercial risk. In other words, HH could have lost money anyways as lending moneys is inherently a risky business. We don't know the full facts here but all I can assume is that for ASTO to be pursuing the claim, there must be reasons beyond a negligent audit - which we know to be the case - and that GT must have opined on the value of acquisitions. As we know, investing in shares is inherently a risky venture, much riskier than lending against the value of a property. And that the burden of proof will be high. All this apart, this still looks like an interesting situation because there is a strong chance that ASTO will use the cash to make an acquisition, making the company considerably more valuable.. w1	woozle1	Read Full Thread Reply
28/3/2018 16:13	ALS: May have been mentioned before but ADVFN finacials wrong - From DM website http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/quote/ASTO Market capitalisation £33.58m Shares in issue 12.21m Thought figures were too goo to be true !!!!!!!!	pugugly	Read Full Thread Reply
28/3/2018 15:40	ALS, I agree w1	woozle1	Read Full Thread Reply
24/3/2018 16:23	Results should be soon. I don't know why it takes a small company 6 months to sort out their accounts. I'm hoping they can hold on to that Middle Eastern contract for a couple more years and they win their claim against GT. If those two things go my way I expect to double my money and if they both go against me I expect to lose 20%. I think it's quite an attractive risk/reward personally.	arthur_lame_stocks	Read Full Thread Reply
15/12/2017 13:11	"A hearing of the Disciplinary Tribunal of the Financial Reporting Council ("FRC") will commence on Monday 15 January 2018 at 10.00am to consider a Formal Complaint against (1) John Shannon, former Chief Executive Officer of AssetCo plc, and a member of Chartered Accountants Ireland (“CAI”); (2) Raymond Flynn, former Chief Financial Officer of AssetCo plc and a member of CAI and (3) Matthew Boyle, former Financial Controller of AssetCo plc and a member of CAI". Https://www.frc.org.uk/news/december-2017/tribunal-hearing-regarding-john-shannon,-raymond-f Well that only took seven years then. It really is a disgrace how slow the FRC is to take action against accused accountants.	effortless cool	Read Full Thread Reply
24/4/2017 17:58	Latest news - I think - was on watch list many years ago before "problems" I think referes to the same company ?? Accountants Grant Thornton fined £2.3m over audit Accountancy firm Grant Thornton (GT), has been fined £2.3m and severely reprimanded by the Financial Reporting Council (FRC) over failings in its audit of a company called AssetCo. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39693134	pugugly	Read Full Thread Reply
07/1/2013 07:42	3.50 you mean	nico9	Read Full Thread Reply
27/12/2012 16:35	Since last September shares in AssetCo have gone from 1.61p to 250p a share	tomatoma2	Read Full Thread Reply
27/12/2012 13:18	The new board of AssetCo, the firm that used to maintain London's fire engines, today said it was suing its past management for more than £50 million over a "very significant decline in [shareholder] value"... http://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/assetco-board-sues-former-bosses-over-share-price-dive-8427137.html	strollingmolby	Read Full Thread Reply
11/12/2012 18:34	Interesting to see Henderson buying 400000 more shares, suggests they at any rate have confidence.	pejaten	Read Full Thread Reply
16/8/2012 12:56	The good old Daily Telegraph reported today that "Since last September shares in AssetCo have gone from 1.61p to 250p a share". No mention of a 1 for 1000 consolidation. Great reporting!	the_beagle	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2012 22:24	only another 900%+ rise to go to break even LOL	nico9	Read Full Thread Reply
15/8/2012 17:00	Should dive now lol - 2 for a pound - roll up, roll up, get your fire engines here my dearies :)	caledoniaman4	Read Full Thread Reply
18/7/2012 20:32	Steady rise - the only thing with this on the AIM market that can stunt the steady incline is some good news !!	caledoniaman1	Read Full Thread Reply
03/7/2012 14:53	What a real wee raver this stock is - excitement all the way :)	caledoniaman4	Read Full Thread Reply
26/4/2012 13:36	-The contract, which is for an initial five years (with a five year extension), involves a total turnkey solution for the provision of personnel, training, operational equipment and facilities management, and follows the award to AssetCo in March 2010 of the first contract of its kind in the UAE. -The revenue impact for the AssetCo group is expected to be at least GBP40 million over the initial five years From the results just published (to September 2011) UAE contributed over £1.2M of profit. Not sure when the contract mentioned in the 21/02/2011 announcement will come into effect, but assume that it is earning enhancing, then net off the cash from the current value, and I am turning bullish here.	the drewster	Read Full Thread Reply
26/4/2012 13:31	Feb 21st 2011: LONDON (Dow Jones)--AssetCo PLC (ASTO.LN), said Monday that following the joint venture with Emirates Advanced Investments, AssetCo Fire and Rescue has been awarded a GBP120 million contract to provide a fully outsourced firefighting service by the GHQ UAE Armed Forces.	the drewster	Read Full Thread Reply
26/4/2012 12:41	Lincoln is gone (regardless of the legalities - if the client is in that frame of mind, it is "all over". Not sure I have seen the financial models for the UAE contracts, but tempting, I must admit.	the drewster	Read Full Thread Reply
26/4/2012 10:55	TD, They were consistently doing that level of EBITDA a couple of years ago. The question is to what degree it was real or fictitious. But if even 50% of it is real then I agree they COULD be a real bargain. One needs to remember they had huge net-debt when they were trading at 60p whereas now they have large net-cash. If they can get the business back on track and generate a fraction of previous EBITDA then it will look very very cheap at the current EV. However, at the moment there is too much uncertainty for me to take a stake. Certainly one to keep an eye on over the next year or two IMO. But for the brave buying in now it could well pay off in spades. IMO, DYOR Des	deswalker	Read Full Thread Reply
26/4/2012 10:54	Would have looked impressive pre-consolildation, as that would be 10,000,000 old shares!	the drewster	Read Full Thread Reply
26/4/2012 10:53	10000 buy just gone through!!! Anyone any idea? Something seems to be brewing?	cliveas	Read Full Thread Reply

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