Arria Nlg Ords Share Discussion Threads

[jumbone] 09/9/2016 21:05

Agree you will need some HTML and software skills...

But Don't worry..

Just post the link to the document

It's in a box on top of your browser window

starts with HTTP

[jumbone] 09/9/2016 21:02

aja5:

Now you see How I am asking for your response to be...

A. Your Point #1:

B. Your Contention/arguments about Point#1

C. The proof as to the supporting contention

Similarly for all other 8 points

[jumbone] 09/9/2016 20:56

Reposred from 04 September:

KCR69 & Kidknocked:

I am humbled by your appreciation of posting my research...

Your Logic of holding 10 K bonus shares and en-cashing them before Feb 2020 if the share price is higher than NZ$ 1.00 (It's not 53p) Makes a lot of Sense. There is absolututely no disputing that

I have in addition to Kidknocked's point of view of MM's are the beneficiaries of holding the share price as low as possible" I have another point of view

1. Until now... NLG's proposed primary listiing in NZSX & ASX is just that --- PROPOSED

2. They need a regulatory consent from both NZSX & ASX... Both are pretty tough regulated exchanges

3. They also need the complete consent of the Listed Warrant holders to the scheme.

4. Because the BOD's intention is to NOT to list ANY trade able warrants





5. Take a look at the largest holders of the "Quoted Warrants"





6. Both Iconic & Litespeed are not going to easily agree to the scheme since they have loaned huge monies to NLG expecting a substantial rise in NLG shares

7. Instead of rising the share price had fallen down to rock bottom.

8. For example Iconic were thrilled to have the option to subscribe for 3.125 mill additional share warrants with a strike prize of £ 1.33 per share

This is from 10 Oct 2014 RNS








9. Additionally the unquoted warrant holders might also not agree to the scheme unless it's at extremely attractive terms

10. Hence there is a lot of doubt on whether this Scheme will go ahead at all.


BUT This is going ahead definitely and at substantially higher Listing price and I will stick to NZ$ 2.00

11. RE Read the RNS of 04 July...

This part:






12 The fund raising of £ 8.5 Million is through an IPO & subscription

13. The pricing will be subject to market evaluation

14. That to me means that NLG is going to the NZSX & ASX market with a new prospectus... Detailing current revenues + Proposed future revenues with "RECOUNT" working intandem with XERO, QuickBooks, MYOB and even SAGE

15. This would most likely to be something like my fair value valuation of NLG shares but taking the new additional shares into account

16 A few months ago XERO raised over $ 110 Mill just for US Expansion plans...



17. So NLG will put forth a new proposition to the OZ & NZ public to subscribe to it's 100% underwritten IPO

18. As per my info they have already lined up New Institutional Investors, MSL will also be taking a big chunk of the New shares

19. In their own words "a standby underwriting agreement between Arria NLG Group, the Company and MSL Capital Markets, which in turn will be supported by a series of standby sub-underwriting agreements with certain existing shareholders and new institutional investors."





20. It's time to look upon Arria NLG not as just a bunch of academicians talking about AI.. and to look at them as a consumer software product company.

21 This is very clear from their intended reason for fund raising





22. This announcement about the Scheme will be Before the end of THIS MONTH

Again look at 04 July RNS

[jumbone] 09/9/2016 20:51

aja5:

After having read through your posts of yesterday and today..

I must agree with KidKnocked...

You have not provided me with ONE single convincing answer for any of those NINE points you made.

Let me help you..

PLease provide me the answer to EVERY one of those points...

With PROOF, EVIDENCE, LINKS as though you are proving your point to a COURT of LAW

So that no one can refute them

So my sincerest request is instead of wasting time trawling through, copying and pasting the texts of RNSs,

By the way ...I have read EVERY SINGLE RNS released by this company from Nelson Resources time..

Please prove the points you make.

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 18:09

Re-posting Jumbones post from 4th September....read carefully....

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 18:08

KCR69 & Kidknocked:

I am humbled by your appreciation of posting my research...

Your Logic of holding 10 K bonus shares and en-cashing them before Feb 2020 if the share price is higher than NZ$ 1.00 (It's not 53p) Makes a lot of Sense. There is absolututely no disputing that

I have in addition to Kidknocked's point of view of MM's are the beneficiaries of holding the share price as low as possible" I have another point of view

1. Until now... NLG's proposed primary listiing in NZSX & ASX is just that --- PROPOSED

2. They need a regulatory consent from both NZSX & ASX... Both are pretty tough regulated exchanges

3. They also need the complete consent of the Listed Warrant holders to the scheme.

4. Because the BOD's intention is to NOT to list ANY trade able warrants

Quoted Warrants
Quoted Warrants



5. Take a look at the largest holders of the "Quoted Warrants"

Substantial Warrant Holders
Substantial Warrant Holders



6. Both Iconic & Litespeed are not going to easily agree to the scheme since they have loaned huge monies to NLG expecting a substantial rise in NLG shares

7. Instead of rising the share price had fallen down to rock bottom.

8. For example Iconic were thrilled to have the option to subscribe for 3.125 mill additional share warrants with a strike prize of £ 1.33 per share

This is from 10 Oct 2014 RNS



Iconic Warrants
Iconic




9. Additionally the unquoted warrant holders might also not agree to the scheme unless it's at extremely attractive terms

10. Hence there is a lot of doubt on whether this Scheme will go ahead at all.


BUT This is going ahead definitely and at substantially higher Listing price and I will stick to NZ$ 2.00

11. RE Read the RNS of 04 July...

This part:


Proposed Fundraising
Proposed Fundraising



12 The fund raising of £ 8.5 Million is through an IPO & subscription

13. The pricing will be subject to market evaluation

14. That to me means that NLG is going to the NZSX & ASX market with a new prospectus... Detailing current revenues + Proposed future revenues with "RECOUNT" working intandem with XERO, QuickBooks, MYOB and even SAGE

15. This would most likely to be something like my fair value valuation of NLG shares but taking the new additional shares into account

16 A few months ago XERO raised over $ 110 Mill just for US Expansion plans...



17. So NLG will put forth a new proposition to the OZ & NZ public to subscribe to it's 100% underwritten IPO

18. As per my info they have already lined up New Institutional Investors, MSL will also be taking a big chunk of the New shares

19. In their own words "a standby underwriting agreement between Arria NLG Group, the Company and MSL Capital Markets, which in turn will be supported by a series of standby sub-underwriting agreements with certain existing shareholders and new institutional investors."

Proposed Fundraising
Proposed Fundraising



20. It's time to look upon Arria NLG not as just a bunch of academicians talking about AI.. and to look at them as a consumer software product company.

21 This is very clear from their intended reason for fund raising

Purpose
Purpose



22. This announcement about the Scheme will be Before the end of THIS MONTH

Again look at 04 July RNS

When

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 18:01

So.....aja5 can't answer the questions at all and lied about me posting under multiple ID's. What a surprise that is !

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:58

You have the whole weekend to respond Aja5.

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:52

aja5,

Here's the questions for you:

So can you please substantiate Every point of what you posted with evidence, examples and proof please..

1. The secured loan note holders are the biggest investors.

2. They are the ones that are due interest payments at the end of the month.

3. They are the only ones who could therefor appoint a administrator.

4. They mainly domicile in NZ.

5. Where the work for a listing is being done.

6. They are the ones who are funding a substantial part in the £8.5 million fundraising.

7. Without that money the company will be unable to pay the interest payments due.
(According to the board of directors)

8. Why exactly do you think they should take you and all the common equity holders with them when they don't have to ??

9.Why let a substantial part of the company remain in equity holders possession ??

Oh....and the list of aliases I post under.

Thanks

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:47

So....where are my alleged multiple aliases then aja5. Accusations are a very bad thing in my book.

[aja5] 09/9/2016 17:35

I have and I have also said I will,try reading !
If you think I am going to answer in nice neat columns underneath each if my points your deluded .
The only thing that needed to be proven was who the CLN holders are. Now I believe that when a company issues a RNS they state FACTS no reason not to.ALL 4 of the CLN issues according to the company were issued to EXISTING investors,the only exception was a part of the last lot of emergency funding! The relevant proof was copied and pasted with dates from the company RNS releases from the company website...
UNDISPUTEABLE......They in the event of funds running out and new funding not being forthcoming are creditors that COULD appoint a administrator in the event of default on interest payments due end of October not September .
The company has on numerous occasions stated that the required funding £8.5million being negotiated is being done so on the condition that they list down under. They have also stated in June that IF this funding is not forth coming a there exists a material risk to the business continuing . Should they reach this point and be unable to meet the companies financial obligations they would by LAW appoint a administrator as they would be knowingly trading in a insolvent manner.
According to jambone the CLN holders aren't playing ball and participating in the desired debt for equity exchange at the 40p conversion price decided at point of agreement.....who would at over double the market price???
My issue with that is according to the company those same investors that hold the CLN were also participating in the fundraising again please read the RNS

Has the company given you any reason not to trust what they put out on a rns ??

Anything above you don't understand ???

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:24

Aja5. If you can't provide a list of other aliases I use, then you should stop posting here as you've clearly lied.

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:15

Aja5,No you haven't. Read the question again, answer each of the nine points. Is it too difficult ?Also where are my alleged multiple aliases then aja5. Accusations are a very bad thing in my book.

[aja5] 09/9/2016 17:13

And I answered last night,do you not read anything ??

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:11

So....where are my alleged multiple aliases then aja5. Accusations are a very bad thing in my book.

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:10

This is what Jumbone asked for, which you haven't delivered at all: give you the entire weekend...If you need it...But on ONE CONDITION...There must be IRREFUTABLE PROOF for each of those NINE pointsOr a well constructed logic supported by verifiable information..NO Fluff.. NO waffle.. No Smoke screens... NO IMOs...

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:08

Where is my list of aliases.....

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:05

Why the delay in the list of aliases ???? You're great entertainment anal5

[aja5] 09/9/2016 17:03

No answer again !!
He asked me to supply and state source of CLN holders which I did!
The list was mine you fool
The rest as stated last night is a mixture of basic finance,common sense and the law.
Do you know what research is ??

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 17:01

Also, your responses are just rehashed selected info that have not addressed any of jumbones questions at all. You have failed and like a tad stupid.

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 16:59

Where is the list of aliases that I use ?

[aja5] 09/9/2016 16:51

Give me the question that you think is unanswered

[kidknocked] 09/9/2016 16:49

You haven't answered the points at all. Sorry, you have failed. Anyway.....where's my list of multiple aliases. Notice you're dodging that one.

[aja5] 09/9/2016 16:47

Is there any reason why you don't read the information the company you are invested in supply to the market ??