Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Antofagasta Plc LSE:ANTO London Ordinary Share GB0000456144 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +24.20p +3.06% 815.40p 813.20p 813.60p 815.60p 804.60p 804.80p 1,933,638 16:35:17
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Mining 3,711.5 982.3 43.2 18.0 8,039

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
27/3/2017
11:51
SBK, Good to see your fan club continuing to grow here, too. ;o) Decent day here having closed one of my 4 UKX shorts for 87+ pts (as on iii), minus a few pts for ex-divis & costs. Closer to 7100 will see the rest of that mess sorted. Then more focus on equities. - ANTO likely to take much longer. Eadwig, Probably not far off re timetable for Brexit talks. Little meaningful likely to happen until after Germany's elections in autumn. So 2018 or very late 2017 seems realistic. Many think that's nowhere near enough time to get a strong comprehensive deal for UK, especially with hard Brexit ideologues like Fox & Davis at the helm. Hard to disagree whilst saner Tory voices like Ken Clarke & Heseltine are being totally ignored. Regards to both.
jackdawsson
27/3/2017
11:16
Re: Brexit. Europe is waiting to see the form the triggering of article 50 takes. I.e. the proposed way ahead that comes along with it ... I wonder if they've told our government that is what is expected. The balls in our court and we're expected to return it with a long list of proposals as to the way ahead, all of which have to be digested and a formal response to each decided upon, between 27 nations and I forget how many total jurisdictions. I can certainly see why some commentators are talking about 2018 before actual sit down talks start. Before we know where we are they'll be breaking for summer recess for 3 months, just like they did after the Brexit vote. Any key politician to this process who goes on holiday this year should be shot for treason. Along with English cricketers on Winter tours that go home for paternity leave!
eadwig
27/3/2017
11:00
michaei or whatever successfully filtered. No issue with Chinese Investor and he is the topic starter and as such is entitled to his views. Debate the views, don`t attack the poster. Copper down near 1.5 % today.
soi
27/3/2017
09:17
Well its goodbye to him then. Guess he must be losing money? soi, Completely agree with your political outlook. The UK Government is obviously going to be mired in time and money wasting negotiating struggles for pretty much ever. None of the real issues that concern ordinary people will be addressed. As they will discover. But of course any negative outcomes will be blamed on them "foreigners". I could write the future headlines of the rabid right wing press right now. Regarding the COMP: my opinion of such behaviour would not get through the ADVFN auto Censor. IMHO, Qualified regards, SBK
sir buns up knealing
26/3/2017
15:18
My preferred entry was actually 227.35 with 227.4 and 227.5 as alternatives. Couldn`t enter any of those, left it a tad late. A lot will depend on the market`s reaction Wednesday when the UK enters the abyss. A grim day to come for the UK, particularly when we have a weak government. Just when we have need for a strong one. The pathetic lot we now have will be tied up in knots trying to negotiate, for years. Ignoring what could possibly be done to improve the UK economy and ordinary people`s lives. The politicians will still get their salaries and expenses though. soi
soi
26/3/2017
11:18
Hi Jack, 227.50. Pretty please, with invisible ink. Or you might as well put soi down for 227.75 I suppose while you are at it! The praise that I heaped on Eadwig above didn't work. I thought it might have caused him to have a seizure but alas he has still got his entry in. IMHO, SBK P.S. I watched a bit of "Bangkok Dangerous" last night. It put me in mind of soi being a western hit man in Thailand and this scene: The paymaster behind the assassination: "Mr soi, I paid you to take this guy out completely but you only shot one of his toes off and one of his fingers!" Soi: "Yeah, well I was only after 10 points".
sir buns up knealing
25/3/2017
22:00
Hi Eadwig, Generally agree. Though another pertinent factor is the increase in perennial non-voters, including many younger citizens, who feel totally disconnected from the political process. Perhaps we need a form of PR to better incentivise those people. Oil dropping helps & perhaps some metals to follow soon if markets start to doubt Trump's ability to deliver his promised massive infrastructure spending plans, as well as huge tax-cuts. Congress's DNA not easily persuasive to taking on more huge debt, especially to appease a populist POTUS who it appears hasn't really thought through even the basic obstacles to fulfilling his grand promises. That huge fence along Mexico's border that he thinks he can get Mexico to pay the full cost of, seems another clanger that'll come to little. Re UKX reversing to well under 7000: maybe not disastrous, though if it happened when Sterling was still fairly weak, it'd suggest that the macro-picture for UK was perhaps grimmer than many expected. Then irrational sentiment can do the rest. In perspective, on the UKX BB, I'm reading posts from some long holders about how they see FTSE at 8000 within months. But for now, other than I think we'll see lower soon, indices remain a hard call as to the next bigger moves in either direction. Really, like ANTO, it feels more like gambling sometimes as it doesn't take much to sharply propel indices in either direction & surprise bad or good news can hit anytime, from anywhere. Hence I'm sticking to targets. Then I take my gains & I stay away. - Regards.
jackdawsson
25/3/2017
18:59
JD, no problem ensuring safeguards for anyone who served in the armed forces voluntarily, or in conflict areas in the merchant navy. But that generation has almost gone in terms of the huge numbers during WWII. The kicker is, just as the grey vote is forecast to be overtaken demographically by the millennials is right around the time I am due to retire. It may not happen with further medical advances ... if we can afford them, that is. As for shorts, I'm about break-even around 7200ish. I don't think well under 7000 would be regarded as disastrous, especially if it happens over a few weeks. It would only take the index back to December. 10 correction from the high would only take it to about 6700 - we had a 20% drop over 6 months between late summer 2015 and Feb 2016. US rig count up 21 on Friday. If oil keeps dropping we might see that kind of drop above, which followed the oil price pretty much. It would be a boon for the Uk economy if it did in terms of keeping inflation under control. I doubt the oil industry will get itself into quite the same problems so quickly again though.
eadwig
25/3/2017
16:53
Hi Eadwig, Glad to echo SBK's comment. Much agree with most points made. A previously leaked paper stated that costs to our Treasury of leaving EU could run up to £66BN EVERY year, for many years. Even it's less than that, the overall costs will surely be damaging. None of this, not to mention the proven outright pro-Brexit lies, was really argued against with sufficient coherence or cogency during the referendum campaign. For that, spineless Cameron, arguably the worst British PM for decades, is mostly to blame. Rather than ducking a one-to-one live debate with Farage, he should have insisted on having a few of them & destroyed that charlatan accordingly by exposing the lies. As it was, Farage steered the agenda. Re pensioners: as they say, win the so-called "grey vote" in UK & you win the General Election. No surprise that many more passionate pro-Brexiteers waving flags were retired folk, their dentures gleaming in the June sunlight. If Brexit leads to a worse than anticipated economic downturn, I agree, that triple-lock pension safeguard should be the first thing to go. Why should our younger generations again endure the greatest economic pain? Some cite pensioners' sacrifices during 2nd world war. Indeed, there are those elderly citizens to whom we are grateful. But even if one was aged 18 in 1945, one would be at least aged 89 or 90 today. Many pensioners are far younger than that. Agree that the FTSE may show some resilience for some while yet as regards a truly disastrous correction, ie. to well under 7000, though I think both UK & US indices will go much lower soon. But well under 7000 was never my target when I opened my first short. I intend closing all my UKX shorts on revisiting close to circa 7100, maybe higher. Then I'd focus on equities again as I think we'll find some excellent bargains over coming months. - Regards.
jackdawsson
25/3/2017
09:52
Eadwig, That was an excellent read. Thanks. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
25/3/2017
05:11
JD & SBK, "Agree re Brexit. By the time the EU convenes on 29/04 & then agrees a collective response, we could well be headed into June." I heard that real negotiations, actually sitting down and officially starting to discuss issues, are unlikely to start in 2017. Which comes as no surprise to me. I heard a politician on the radio the other day saying that 'Its just beginning to dawn on some people that each business sector requires its own representative and many of those have sub-sectors which require the same. Otherwise, anyone not represented is very likely to have advantages negotiated away. You could probably find virtually the same sentence written by me on the ii BP board prior to the vote. How can our politicians really be so thick? The WTO rules aren't such a big deal compared to the additional paperwork and hold-ups at the borders. E.g. Some industries currently have components imported and exported several times between different factories in the EU for various specialised work. They simply wont be able to compete due to extended lead times because of border hold ups. The easiest thing for, say, a German auto parts manufacturer will be to simply cut out any border controls. Something I had not realised is that, in effect, some services do exactly the same things, but will no have to have data protection agreements with every single country involved. Previously, one EU agreement covered all countries, in or out of the EU, those outside the EU just had to conform with the EU regulations. That could take years to get in place, or very much more money to negotiate several agreements in parallel. The details of the budget were very telling. Where it had projections maximum 5 years in advance, that included costs for the department of breit - in other words, Hammond and the treasury are under no illusions that the Brexit department will still be working at the same rate in 5 year's time as they will be in 2017/18. Why none of this was absolutely forefront in the 'debate' pre-vote, I don't know. Probably because most people don't have a long enough attention span to focus on it. Brexiteer politicians dismissed such concerns when they weren't brought up as 'scare mongering', 'project fear' and 'other countries manage just fine', ignoring the fact other countries have evolved their own procedures over decades and have negotiators who have spent whole careers doing such things. I think it will only gradually sink in over months after article 50 has been triggered, maybe only after exit has happened, and the only way I can really see it filtering into the national consciousness is through continual and incremental lay-offs of workers with causes for same cited as a result of no longer being able to compete due to X and Y resulting from Brexit. It'll be way too late by then. Except, those politicians who helped bring about the situation, including Cameron, should be held accountable in some way. That's just a fantasy on my part though. I note another 2 years is already to be added to pension ages, and there is even now serious talk of doing away with retirement age completely. No one has mentioned Brexit specifically, but they have referred to 'changed circumstances looking forward'. Of course, the one section of the public better off are pensioners, whose triple lock means an RPI linked benefit rise. RPI is currently 3.5% and rising fast. ONE person who worked on the committee that has come up with the pension recommendations has talked about removing the triple lock as it is patently no longer fair. I'd like to see a hefty cut in state pension linked directly to Brexit and a politician with the balls to say 'that's what you voted for, here it is'. Instead, we still have several years of pension rate rises and real cuts to every other service until at least 2020, as well as stealth taxes which don't fall under rises to income tax, VAT or N.I. now the government knows it can't discard its own manifesto. With the health service ring fenced so that cuts only come in the form of 'rises' in spending under the rate of inflation, and promises to reduce corporation tax to attract business investment (like other countries wont compete by doing the same thing), we're going to see much bigger cuts to defence spending, more pay freezes in the public sector and probably a second decade of falling living standards to follow the last decade which resulted in the rise of 'populism', or stupidity as I like to call it. The Uk is on the fast track to becoming a second class nation. Our '5th biggest economy in the world' has already been overtaken by Russia, Brazil and Indonesia by some measurements. Canada, France, Italy and S. Korea will likely go past us too and probably others. Then where will the argument be about the 5th biggest economy being able to stand alone? And none of it likely to happen quickly enough to affect the FTSE 100 and its international companies in any great way. A man could get depressed if he dwelt on it for too long. Eadwig, off to bed. Has to be up in an hour. Been researching rare earth elements all night.
eadwig
24/3/2017
22:10
Hi SBK, Despite my dismal showing in Comp this season, compensations abound. Not least, as you've noted, enjoying proceedings in Congress & Trump, supposed master of the business deal, increasingly being exposed as a straw man president & useless at making any deals. I imagine much more of the same lies ahead. Can't deny I'm also more than a little relieved that indices have lost momentum past few days & things on the macro-front look poised for further falls soon. Anyone going long too heavily during recent weeks probably deserves all they've got coming. Markets have been unusually irrational & we seem due further corrections. Agree re Brexit. By the time the EU convenes on 29/04 & then agrees a collective response, we could well be headed into June. Even a full 2 years was never going to be long enough, so it'll take huge compromises to avoid being stuck with costly WTO rules. By the by, on iii, Rhino notes that Escondida's copper strike ended today. Too early to know what effect (if any) on Cu prices, but Monday could be interesting, as will be the rest of next week. - Regards.
jackdawsson
24/3/2017
21:37
Hi Jack, Glad you picked up a couple of points in the COMP. I'll have more to say on that tomorrow. The good news is that Trump has fallen at the hurdles on the Obama Care issue. His Moslem ban is in the bin already, second time around. Then we have the A50 fiasco on our doorsteps. The markets are also at ludicrously high levels. Therefore, why not be short on most stuff right now? Like me. Its simple, simply simple, simples. IMHO. SBK
sir buns up knealing
24/3/2017
12:48
Hi Eadwig, Thanks & you're welcome. No doubt I speak for many in my appreciation. Good research alone is time-consuming, even if experiences helps one to better identify the gist. That's without actively trading as well. Doing both isn't easy for any individual. Hence, great value of shared info on BBs. It's also easy to become discouraged when things go against & rewards delayed by far longer than anticipated. Many people need a break. We've all been there. I did exactly 62 small SB trades on Wednesday alone. A HUGE number for me, but of no value to others as no time to post anything. All scalping indices both directions. Last one just before 9 pm. I couldn't do that most days, even if I wanted to. But I emphasise, these were small lower-risk trades. I hold much bigger SB positions underwater. To get maximum rewards from markets, it really needs a full-time approach. For eg. as Soi adopts. But focusing more so on basic TA actually saves time from a day-trading perspective. Not least as markets can be sentiment-driven & irrational, whilst fundamental news is more important for mid-to-long term traders & investors. It's unfortunate for longer-term holders of NXT or any other retail stocks with Brexit ahead, et al, & yet to fully play out. That's one of a few sectors that really can't avoid greater challenges for the foreseeable future. I'm sure we'll see more focus on cost-cutting & moving more business online where possible. I agree, that'll be key to any strong recovery of many retailers future profits. Sadly, that'll also entail job-losses elsewhere. My trading approach just days before Brexit trigger remains as before: not that there haven't been temptations to buy again, but I'm 100% in cash with real shares. Key thing: I need to exit bigger SB positions sooner than later, even if I bolster my account via small-stake scalping. My bigger issues can't be delayed indefinitely. I probably won't buy anything more until after EU convene on 29th April, as they try to agree a collective response to PM May's A50 trigger on 29th March. Presumably, meaningful talks won't start until at least well after April. Maybe even as late as June has been mentioned by EU sources. Considering that even 2 full years after A50 triggered is seen by many as nowhere near enough time, it's hard to be very optimistic. No trade deal leaves reliant on more expensive WTO rules & that'll be another clear negative for much of UK PLC. Interesting times ahead & no doubt some good trading opportunities. Ah, the Comp: for first time in its history, I sit back & enjoy proceedings with total neutrality. Never been in the running this time & I'm sure that my 2 BARC shorts (one well underwater) has more to do with that failure than even irrational, Trump-driven markets. ;o) Regards.
jackdawsson
24/3/2017
08:20
Hi Eadwig, Thanks & credit to you for noticing any anomalies on said presentation. I'm surprised iii didn't get back to you, even if from mere oversight, but I still prefer iii to here for other reasons, including layout & the posters I know well. Once SBK re-registers with iii, my visits here will again diminish. :o) By the by, it's not gone unnoticed by me & others on iii that you've also done excellent, in-depth research on a fair number of sectors & equities. That input always appreciated. Some of that presumably would otherwise escape most casual traders attentions. Same reasons here for forgoing Level 2. I recall when I traded via eTrade that it was very useful seeing live trade orders come through on my screen, especially bigger buys & sells. However, I'd need to guarantee I could be trading full-time again without increasing obligations away from my desk to justify it. That's far from the case right now & for the foreseeable future. - Regards & GL. Catch you on iii later.
jackdawsson
23/3/2017
23:43
PS, I was in the local convenience store yesterday, and you can buy a pay as you go sim card, with new number, for a quid here, and no registration process at the checkout as far as I can tell, and you even get some internet data time for that too. I like those off the shelf pay-as-you-go sims. you can check through all the available numbers and pick one you can actually remember when someone asks you for your mobile number. Eadwig
eadwig
23/3/2017
21:41
Hi Eadwig, AFAIK, posters highlighted in blue are paying subscribers with access to L2 & ADVFN's other services. Posters in black are, presumably, a bunch of tight-fisted skinflints who'll make do with what whatever they can get for free. A bit harsh, but probably not far off the truth for someone like JD. ;o) Though in truth, I don't trade anywhere near enough to justify regular fees for L2, though I've used it previously when with eTrade. - Regards.
jackdawsson
23/3/2017
20:16
bionicdog, "If you are not blue , it will block it" Good tip, I'll remember that. I'll just think about my FTSE 100 shorts and I'll be so blue I'll be able to paste images as well as include links ... which is what I tried first. I'm feeling completely unvalidated. How did you get blue?
eadwig
23/3/2017
19:32
Well that was amusing! Eadwig is Polish Irish you know. And was brought up in Yorkshire where they are "strong int arm and thick int 'ed". He used to work in computers in the days when they were steam- powered or driven by water mills. IMHO, SBK Like to see ANTO down to <816 tomorrow and Barc up to 229 and no more. TIA.
sir buns up knealing
23/3/2017
18:23
Voila ! hTTp://site.recognia.com/recognia_news/serve.shtml?page=event&eid=UKvwmeAAQw4wANgABAACAAAD6CQg&amp;lang=en
chinese investor
23/3/2017
18:20
Seriously , it depends where the link is from. If you are not blue , it will block it from many other sources. You can get round it by changing one of the "t"s to a capital. Don't tell them I told you though.
bionicdog
23/3/2017
18:17
no idea, didn't have trouble posting links previously. Ta! Just an interest thing - the software doesn't have a good track record.
eadwig
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