Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Antofagasta Plc LSE:ANTO London Ordinary Share GB0000456144 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 861.60 863.60 864.40 0.00 0.00 - 11,096 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Mining 3,711.5 982.3 43.2 20.1 8,494

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29/3/2017
12:47
SBK, I really don't understand why you hold long and short positions in the same equity for any period. Does it not get confusing and complicated. And why pay 2 lots of dealing charges. Life is so much easier if you just play for one side at a time. You can still be fickle and switch on a whim. I suspect the problem is a reluctance to crystallise a loss ? DS Currently enjoying the Spanish sun and wondering if I can claim a right to stay ?. Also wondering if I need a visa to return to the UK.
damp seaweed
28/3/2017
22:37
SBK, So it starts. PM May triggered A50 tonight. Though some people never expected things to reach this stage, I know May was long-regarded by some with suspicion as a Machiavellian-type who was always a secret Brexiteer. She just didn't want to admit it during the EU Referendum & risk getting on the wrong side of Cameron in case Brexit lost. In this respect, by now pandering to the Tory right & grassroots support, she probably ensures she'll be PM in 2020. Though a Tory PM in 2020 isn't in any doubt due to the feebleness of the opposition, the Tory leader might have been. But as you say, there'll be a winners & losers. Most will lose. To the clear winners, we can also add the wealthy elite (Arron Banks & co) who bank-rolled Brexit. I'll be out most of tomorrow (maybe a blessing), so will catch up later. - All the best!
jackdawsson
28/3/2017
21:03
Hi Jack, I liked Kam too. I believe he was involved, in a heroic way, with the Langbar (the largest known fraud scandal in UK financial history), as was I. More on that another time. A50: tomorrow's winner will be... Vladimir Putin. And he deserves it, master strategist that he is: Won in Chechnya. Won in Crimea. Ukraine pending. Won in the USA. I've been musing that the "golden shower" accusation against Trump was not urination by females but a "leak" threat about a rainfall of money Donald got somet ime, somewhere. It was a convoluted threat. Won in Syria. And A50 is a winning hand too. The wedge between the EU states, with the most warlike of them, the UK being taken out. Clever boy. Mrs May, silly stooge. IMHO, Regards, SBK
sir buns up knealing
28/3/2017
19:03
Hi SBK, Thanks. Here's hoping those BARC shorts come good for you soon, self-interest aside. ;o) I have 2 BARC shorts, one well underwater, but not so heavily exposed as to be fazed. However, if I saw closer to 210, I may shut both for near B/E. Mostly to spring clean my SB account & gradually work towards a clean slate there. Reasons: so much up in the air with Brexit & the loon in the Whitehouse, extreme volatility liable to remain for ages yet. Soi's done well again & due credit to him, but as we appreciate, one also needs substantial resources to keep adding positions to more volatile stocks. You'll remember Kam from iii. He opened a leveraged BARC long at circa 240+. He added at least 11 more BARC longs. Lowest entry I recall was circa 200. BARC collapsed to 121+ lows & dear Kam not heard from since. I liked Kam. It was genuinely sad that he got a financial hammering, as many others did. But I was also mindful of one of his last comments about the heavy price of breaking his own rules by adding more positions than he normally would. I was lucky as I kept averaging down by buying real shares & had up to 6 tranches at one time. Sold the last one far too early, but did well overall. But all history now & the leveraged side continues to pose far greater challenges. I remain 100% in cash with real shares since selling my last VOD & BT shares earlier this month. No rush there & content to sit on sidelines until well into summer. Re A50: I share your take on it. Frankly, I feel very disheartened about tomorrow. Not least because of all the lies around Brexit. But also, all the gloating from petty-minded nationalists who continue demanding a "hard Brexit", only underscores how people of limited objectivity have been so easily led by populist right-wing media. Even though I firmly believe we'll have another EU Referendum with a very different outcome in my lifetime, so within 25 years, I still feel we could be facing at least a wasted decade or more of relative chaos. The very thought of that is quite depressing. - Regards.
jackdawsson
28/3/2017
17:44
Hi Jack. Glad that you are doing well with UKX. Short is deffo the way to go with that. My main dealing right now is Barc SBs: a mix of shorts and longs heavily weighted to the short side . I add shorts on every rise of a few points and sell on falls. Been doing this with success for a long time. But wished I'd kept some shorts which I closed in the high 230s. This is really the sort of thing soi does with ANTO. But Barc is a whole lot more predictable, less volatile and nowhere near as scary. I see that soi has climbed out of the grave on ANTO yet again. The true answer to Apostrophe's question was that he only does all this to annoy us. Anyway at close of racing today in the Barc COMP I am only 2 wheel lengths behind Ashram Jonny. Apart from that good news, I am dreading tomorrow and the A50 thing. I cannot believe that my fellow countrymen have been so stupid. A tragic day. IMHO, Regards, SBK
sir buns up knealing
28/3/2017
14:48
SBK, Appreciate your caution about adding here on top of your existing ANTO positions. Easy to end up with too many trades hedging others, but if we see a sharp move to one side & a break-out from a previous trading range, it can soon get messy with positions underwater over L/T. But once you've booked more gains, there'll always be fresh opportunities later. If there's one sure thing with this share, it's that extreme volatility makes it excellent for trading. I've had a decent 24 hours with UKX shorts. Without being over-confident, I feel fairly sanguine about seeing more gains there sooner than later. Some Brexit blues will certainly help. But my main goal remains to get out of the mess here & release margin for trading less unpredictable equities. Re Soi: one thing I learned from him today on iii's BARC BB: if ever I'm in Thailand & someone tries to sell me a lottery ticket for over 80 baht, then they've marked me down as another foreign prize sucker! :o) Such info may prove useful. - Regards.
jackdawsson
28/3/2017
12:23
Hi Jack, I keep being tempted to go long on ANTO today. But too nervous. And I really don't want to encourage the share price up right now. I'm hoping that soi will keep adding to his underwater massive long string so that eventually he won't be able to afford his landline and internet bill. I'm also advertising in "The Pattya Times" for local handyman to fix a sign to soi's front gate, reading: "National Lottery tickets sold here. Only 400 baht each". IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
27/3/2017
18:27
Hi SBK, Thanks. Can't go against such open-mindedness. ANTO production report on 26th April; ex-divi date, the 27th. hTtp://www.antofagasta.co.uk/investors/ As we know, 4 weeks-plus is often a long time in markets, especially considering the recent volatility of copper & macro-factors in general. Add Brexit & the Trump factor into the mix & it's akin to shooting in the dark. Without a scattergun, I'll continue to avoid risking further damage here. Re Soi: I guess he figured that whatever some folk may think of you, no-one who knows you from iii would ever seriously consider you an idiot. A few might have other choice descriptions, but that's how things go for those who are occasionally misunderstood. ;o) - Regards. Catch up later.
jackdawsson
27/3/2017
17:39
Jack, I had a little foray at 790.3 but chickened out with a couple of points. My problem is that I have 2 longs in the 830s - the last one added with perfect ill-luck on Friday. Plus one at 842. And my 3 shorts are on upside down. So I'm in stasis right now. My plan was to always stay net short while the strike was on expecting a fall at its conclusion. But its worse than that because the strike is not really over. Maybe 18 months of bad feeling to come first. This dispute may spill over into other Chilean mining companies... Nevertheless, I actually expect the ANTO share price to go north and south all over the place in range which includes back up to 850. Results next month for one thing. It was good of soi to leap to the defence of our host from this morning's surprise attack. I did note that he omitted to defend me against the charge of being an idiot. I suppose that was because such a notion regarding my good personage was not worth responding to, no doubt. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
27/3/2017
14:29
SBK, Note, as well as 830 gap, also one at circa 748 from 10th March. Next day open was 767. Things up in the air with dollar strength & Trump-effect fading. Also, Escondida's strike over. All that coming together. Extra caution seems wise. - Regards.
jackdawsson
27/3/2017
11:16
Eadwig, It is actually 30 nations to negotiate with: there are also Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland! Beyond the obvious economic and political mess which is looming I am actually more concerned about those of us remainers who want to keep our EU citizenship for cultural reasons. It is madness to lose our 44 year old European rights and freedoms and allow ourselves to be led by the likes of Farage and other small-minded xenophobes. I am particularly angry about the nastiness which has been encouraged to surface against eastern Europeans by such rags as The Daily Express and also the Government's supine reverence for the Trump Administration. I could go on. And probably will. Meantime, I am dithering about ANTO. There is now the gap at 830 to fill. But why should it apart from a retrace from a 23 point drop being a routine occurrence intraday? Perhaps the price of copper will recover a bit. Maybe investors' money will move into safe $ earning, foreign - facing stocks with the UK heading into huge uncertainty this week. Then there is soi with his improbable string of longs this morning tempting one to follow him either to 10 point gains or off a cliff. Unsure which at the moment... IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
27/3/2017
10:51
SBK, Good to see your fan club continuing to grow here, too. ;o) Decent day here having closed one of my 4 UKX shorts for 87+ pts (as on iii), minus a few pts for ex-divis & costs. Closer to 7100 will see the rest of that mess sorted. Then more focus on equities. - ANTO likely to take much longer. Eadwig, Probably not far off re timetable for Brexit talks. Little meaningful likely to happen until after Germany's elections in autumn. So 2018 or very late 2017 seems realistic. Many think that's nowhere near enough time to get a strong comprehensive deal for UK, especially with hard Brexit ideologues like Fox & Davis at the helm. Hard to disagree whilst saner Tory voices like Ken Clarke & Heseltine are being totally ignored. Regards to both.
jackdawsson
27/3/2017
10:16
Re: Brexit. Europe is waiting to see the form the triggering of article 50 takes. I.e. the proposed way ahead that comes along with it ... I wonder if they've told our government that is what is expected. The balls in our court and we're expected to return it with a long list of proposals as to the way ahead, all of which have to be digested and a formal response to each decided upon, between 27 nations and I forget how many total jurisdictions. I can certainly see why some commentators are talking about 2018 before actual sit down talks start. Before we know where we are they'll be breaking for summer recess for 3 months, just like they did after the Brexit vote. Any key politician to this process who goes on holiday this year should be shot for treason. Along with English cricketers on Winter tours that go home for paternity leave!
eadwig
27/3/2017
10:00
michaei or whatever successfully filtered. No issue with Chinese Investor and he is the topic starter and as such is entitled to his views. Debate the views, don`t attack the poster. Copper down near 1.5 % today.
soi
27/3/2017
08:17
Well its goodbye to him then. Guess he must be losing money? soi, Completely agree with your political outlook. The UK Government is obviously going to be mired in time and money wasting negotiating struggles for pretty much ever. None of the real issues that concern ordinary people will be addressed. As they will discover. But of course any negative outcomes will be blamed on them "foreigners". I could write the future headlines of the rabid right wing press right now. Regarding the COMP: my opinion of such behaviour would not get through the ADVFN auto Censor. IMHO, Qualified regards, SBK
sir buns up knealing
26/3/2017
14:18
My preferred entry was actually 227.35 with 227.4 and 227.5 as alternatives. Couldn`t enter any of those, left it a tad late. A lot will depend on the market`s reaction Wednesday when the UK enters the abyss. A grim day to come for the UK, particularly when we have a weak government. Just when we have need for a strong one. The pathetic lot we now have will be tied up in knots trying to negotiate, for years. Ignoring what could possibly be done to improve the UK economy and ordinary people`s lives. The politicians will still get their salaries and expenses though. soi
soi
26/3/2017
10:18
Hi Jack, 227.50. Pretty please, with invisible ink. Or you might as well put soi down for 227.75 I suppose while you are at it! The praise that I heaped on Eadwig above didn't work. I thought it might have caused him to have a seizure but alas he has still got his entry in. IMHO, SBK P.S. I watched a bit of "Bangkok Dangerous" last night. It put me in mind of soi being a western hit man in Thailand and this scene: The paymaster behind the assassination: "Mr soi, I paid you to take this guy out completely but you only shot one of his toes off and one of his fingers!" Soi: "Yeah, well I was only after 10 points".
sir buns up knealing
25/3/2017
22:00
Hi Eadwig, Generally agree. Though another pertinent factor is the increase in perennial non-voters, including many younger citizens, who feel totally disconnected from the political process. Perhaps we need a form of PR to better incentivise those people. Oil dropping helps & perhaps some metals to follow soon if markets start to doubt Trump's ability to deliver his promised massive infrastructure spending plans, as well as huge tax-cuts. Congress's DNA not easily persuasive to taking on more huge debt, especially to appease a populist POTUS who it appears hasn't really thought through even the basic obstacles to fulfilling his grand promises. That huge fence along Mexico's border that he thinks he can get Mexico to pay the full cost of, seems another clanger that'll come to little. Re UKX reversing to well under 7000: maybe not disastrous, though if it happened when Sterling was still fairly weak, it'd suggest that the macro-picture for UK was perhaps grimmer than many expected. Then irrational sentiment can do the rest. In perspective, on the UKX BB, I'm reading posts from some long holders about how they see FTSE at 8000 within months. But for now, other than I think we'll see lower soon, indices remain a hard call as to the next bigger moves in either direction. Really, like ANTO, it feels more like gambling sometimes as it doesn't take much to sharply propel indices in either direction & surprise bad or good news can hit anytime, from anywhere. Hence I'm sticking to targets. Then I take my gains & I stay away. - Regards.
jackdawsson
25/3/2017
18:59
JD, no problem ensuring safeguards for anyone who served in the armed forces voluntarily, or in conflict areas in the merchant navy. But that generation has almost gone in terms of the huge numbers during WWII. The kicker is, just as the grey vote is forecast to be overtaken demographically by the millennials is right around the time I am due to retire. It may not happen with further medical advances ... if we can afford them, that is. As for shorts, I'm about break-even around 7200ish. I don't think well under 7000 would be regarded as disastrous, especially if it happens over a few weeks. It would only take the index back to December. 10 correction from the high would only take it to about 6700 - we had a 20% drop over 6 months between late summer 2015 and Feb 2016. US rig count up 21 on Friday. If oil keeps dropping we might see that kind of drop above, which followed the oil price pretty much. It would be a boon for the Uk economy if it did in terms of keeping inflation under control. I doubt the oil industry will get itself into quite the same problems so quickly again though.
eadwig
25/3/2017
16:53
Hi Eadwig, Glad to echo SBK's comment. Much agree with most points made. A previously leaked paper stated that costs to our Treasury of leaving EU could run up to £66BN EVERY year, for many years. Even it's less than that, the overall costs will surely be damaging. None of this, not to mention the proven outright pro-Brexit lies, was really argued against with sufficient coherence or cogency during the referendum campaign. For that, spineless Cameron, arguably the worst British PM for decades, is mostly to blame. Rather than ducking a one-to-one live debate with Farage, he should have insisted on having a few of them & destroyed that charlatan accordingly by exposing the lies. As it was, Farage steered the agenda. Re pensioners: as they say, win the so-called "grey vote" in UK & you win the General Election. No surprise that many more passionate pro-Brexiteers waving flags were retired folk, their dentures gleaming in the June sunlight. If Brexit leads to a worse than anticipated economic downturn, I agree, that triple-lock pension safeguard should be the first thing to go. Why should our younger generations again endure the greatest economic pain? Some cite pensioners' sacrifices during 2nd world war. Indeed, there are those elderly citizens to whom we are grateful. But even if one was aged 18 in 1945, one would be at least aged 89 or 90 today. Many pensioners are far younger than that. Agree that the FTSE may show some resilience for some while yet as regards a truly disastrous correction, ie. to well under 7000, though I think both UK & US indices will go much lower soon. But well under 7000 was never my target when I opened my first short. I intend closing all my UKX shorts on revisiting close to circa 7100, maybe higher. Then I'd focus on equities again as I think we'll find some excellent bargains over coming months. - Regards.
jackdawsson
25/3/2017
09:52
Eadwig, That was an excellent read. Thanks. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
25/3/2017
05:11
JD & SBK, "Agree re Brexit. By the time the EU convenes on 29/04 & then agrees a collective response, we could well be headed into June." I heard that real negotiations, actually sitting down and officially starting to discuss issues, are unlikely to start in 2017. Which comes as no surprise to me. I heard a politician on the radio the other day saying that 'Its just beginning to dawn on some people that each business sector requires its own representative and many of those have sub-sectors which require the same. Otherwise, anyone not represented is very likely to have advantages negotiated away. You could probably find virtually the same sentence written by me on the ii BP board prior to the vote. How can our politicians really be so thick? The WTO rules aren't such a big deal compared to the additional paperwork and hold-ups at the borders. E.g. Some industries currently have components imported and exported several times between different factories in the EU for various specialised work. They simply wont be able to compete due to extended lead times because of border hold ups. The easiest thing for, say, a German auto parts manufacturer will be to simply cut out any border controls. Something I had not realised is that, in effect, some services do exactly the same things, but will no have to have data protection agreements with every single country involved. Previously, one EU agreement covered all countries, in or out of the EU, those outside the EU just had to conform with the EU regulations. That could take years to get in place, or very much more money to negotiate several agreements in parallel. The details of the budget were very telling. Where it had projections maximum 5 years in advance, that included costs for the department of breit - in other words, Hammond and the treasury are under no illusions that the Brexit department will still be working at the same rate in 5 year's time as they will be in 2017/18. Why none of this was absolutely forefront in the 'debate' pre-vote, I don't know. Probably because most people don't have a long enough attention span to focus on it. Brexiteer politicians dismissed such concerns when they weren't brought up as 'scare mongering', 'project fear' and 'other countries manage just fine', ignoring the fact other countries have evolved their own procedures over decades and have negotiators who have spent whole careers doing such things. I think it will only gradually sink in over months after article 50 has been triggered, maybe only after exit has happened, and the only way I can really see it filtering into the national consciousness is through continual and incremental lay-offs of workers with causes for same cited as a result of no longer being able to compete due to X and Y resulting from Brexit. It'll be way too late by then. Except, those politicians who helped bring about the situation, including Cameron, should be held accountable in some way. That's just a fantasy on my part though. I note another 2 years is already to be added to pension ages, and there is even now serious talk of doing away with retirement age completely. No one has mentioned Brexit specifically, but they have referred to 'changed circumstances looking forward'. Of course, the one section of the public better off are pensioners, whose triple lock means an RPI linked benefit rise. RPI is currently 3.5% and rising fast. ONE person who worked on the committee that has come up with the pension recommendations has talked about removing the triple lock as it is patently no longer fair. I'd like to see a hefty cut in state pension linked directly to Brexit and a politician with the balls to say 'that's what you voted for, here it is'. Instead, we still have several years of pension rate rises and real cuts to every other service until at least 2020, as well as stealth taxes which don't fall under rises to income tax, VAT or N.I. now the government knows it can't discard its own manifesto. With the health service ring fenced so that cuts only come in the form of 'rises' in spending under the rate of inflation, and promises to reduce corporation tax to attract business investment (like other countries wont compete by doing the same thing), we're going to see much bigger cuts to defence spending, more pay freezes in the public sector and probably a second decade of falling living standards to follow the last decade which resulted in the rise of 'populism', or stupidity as I like to call it. The Uk is on the fast track to becoming a second class nation. Our '5th biggest economy in the world' has already been overtaken by Russia, Brazil and Indonesia by some measurements. Canada, France, Italy and S. Korea will likely go past us too and probably others. Then where will the argument be about the 5th biggest economy being able to stand alone? And none of it likely to happen quickly enough to affect the FTSE 100 and its international companies in any great way. A man could get depressed if he dwelt on it for too long. Eadwig, off to bed. Has to be up in an hour. Been researching rare earth elements all night.
eadwig
24/3/2017
22:10
Hi SBK, Despite my dismal showing in Comp this season, compensations abound. Not least, as you've noted, enjoying proceedings in Congress & Trump, supposed master of the business deal, increasingly being exposed as a straw man president & useless at making any deals. I imagine much more of the same lies ahead. Can't deny I'm also more than a little relieved that indices have lost momentum past few days & things on the macro-front look poised for further falls soon. Anyone going long too heavily during recent weeks probably deserves all they've got coming. Markets have been unusually irrational & we seem due further corrections. Agree re Brexit. By the time the EU convenes on 29/04 & then agrees a collective response, we could well be headed into June. Even a full 2 years was never going to be long enough, so it'll take huge compromises to avoid being stuck with costly WTO rules. By the by, on iii, Rhino notes that Escondida's copper strike ended today. Too early to know what effect (if any) on Cu prices, but Monday could be interesting, as will be the rest of next week. - Regards.
jackdawsson
24/3/2017
21:37
Hi Jack, Glad you picked up a couple of points in the COMP. I'll have more to say on that tomorrow. The good news is that Trump has fallen at the hurdles on the Obama Care issue. His Moslem ban is in the bin already, second time around. Then we have the A50 fiasco on our doorsteps. The markets are also at ludicrously high levels. Therefore, why not be short on most stuff right now? Like me. Its simple, simply simple, simples. IMHO. SBK
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