Afc Energy Share Discussion Threads

[haggismchaggis] 03/1/2022 19:58

Looking at other Fuel Cell stocks on the German Bourses, I see that CWR, ITM and PPS are all nicely up, with PPS up 20% on several exchanges. PHE is also nicely up.
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Money going into the sector over there bodes well for money flowing into the sector on the UK and USA markets, in fact I see that in the USA FCEL is up over 10% today on no news (maybe tipped in the press there though), and the other USA Fuel Cell stocks are all up too.

[haggismchaggis] 03/1/2022 19:43

AFC well up on the German Bourses today!

Tradegate +12,21 %
Frankfurt +13,61 %
Xetra +8,40 %
Stuttgart +11,03 %
München +7,53 %
Berlin +2,22 %
Düsseldorf +10,75 %
Lang & Schwarz +10,95 %

[jimmynan] 03/1/2022 18:53

YellowF1,If you understood the complexities of bringing new tech into production then you'd realise these things take time and changes have to be made when problems appear. We now though have a product that has charged a race series and been trialled by ABB in Estonia with integration into their fast charge system.Mind you, I'd imagine you're a bit thick so don't really get tech!!! Bless.......Jim x

[andyf987] 03/1/2022 17:31

To give some balance to the above post, we are up c. 860% over three years (5.7p and now 49p).

As far as I am aware the company is closer than they were 10 years ago. I think that is probably a matter of fact rather than debate.

[andyf987] 03/1/2022 17:31

To give some balance to the above post, we are up c. 860% over three years (5.7p and now 49p).

As far as I am aware the company is closer than they were 10 years ago. I think that is probably a matter of fact rather than debate.

[yellowf123] 03/1/2022 16:09

From a post earlier today on LSE.

"AFC Energy, the industrial fuel cell company, has highlighted its latest glowing assessment by the government sponsored technology innovation centre known as 'Catapult'.

by: moneyweek
10 SEP 2012
AFC Energy, the industrial fuel cell company, has highlighted its latest glowing assessment by the government sponsored technology innovation centre known as 'Catapult'.

Inspector Dr Jon Helliwell said the "pace of development within AFC Energy appears to be accelerating and the company has clearly moved a long way from a proof of concept phase into demonstration and production."

Groundhog day or what??.
AFC 10 years ago claimed they were moving from demonstration to commercial.

"Right product at the right time".

To summarise, 10 years later and many millions of investors cash spent.
Is this company any closer than they were 10 years ago?.

It really is no wonder the share price has continued on the downtrend the past 12 months.

[haggismchaggis] 03/1/2022 10:55

The Army have seen and tested the AFC EV Charger, they are also testing an increasing number of EV's at the Battle Lab, so how's about an order very soon from them for their own EV Charger at the Battle Lab? They will need something to charge the increasing number of EV's with, and they would also want to do longer term testing of zero emissions off-grid power generation, so seems like a no brainer order to me.
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Army bases have a lot of space, so the L Series is perfectly fine for those locations.
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For missions I'd expect them to go with small HFC and S Series (not 200kW, more like 10kW or 20kW) that are much easier to air drop and then transport. So they should be one of the first in line for an HFC order in January.
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They could even place an order for 1 x L Series EV Charger, 1 x HFC Prototype and 1 x S Prototype at the same time, all for the Battle Lab.

[haggismchaggis] 03/1/2022 10:55

"The Top 11 Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Stocks To Buy in 2022"
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[beeezzz] 02/1/2022 21:21

Another great idea snapped up by foreign owners, Britain is too parochial these days doesn't think big...We need an industrial investment bank....

Better still we need a government that understands how to make money out of this countries great ideas..inventions



YASA sold out to Mercedes recently who make the best electric motors...

[yellowf123] 02/1/2022 18:23

tonsil,
Your loss.
Another one with his head in the sand, patiently waiting for the next version of fuel cell to be R&D'd..
Its just as well there are blinkered investors like him, to support AB's lavish lifestyle..

[haggismchaggis] 02/1/2022 17:29

USA too then:
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[vatnabrekk] 02/1/2022 16:31

That sounds rather encouraging!

[haggismchaggis] 02/1/2022 16:12

We saw the Army truck parked in front of the EV Charger in the Extreme E behind the scenes video at 16m 39s.

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I said at the time that I wondered if the truck was charging from the AFC system.
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I've been doing some research on this vehicle and it is a Jankel Fox TUV - fully Electric demonstrator. So I'd say it's a very good bet that it was indeed recharging at the time, and the Army chap in the video was monitoring the charging progress.
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The same truck can be seen just over 1/3 of the way down this page (which is worth reading if you have time);

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Here it is again:

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And here it is being presented by Mr Jankel himself, at 1m 23s on the video:

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Great to see the Army already getting first hand experience of using the AFC EV Charger!!

[tonsil] 02/1/2022 11:04

You're gone , irrelevant, filtered, ignored back under the mud you came from.

[yellowf123] 01/1/2022 22:44

Haggis seems to filter anyone with a contrarian view to his.
He likes to live in a rose coloured world, blocking out reality.

It's a fact technology waits for no man, something could be discovered next week that could make Fuel Cells obsolete.
AFC have had 12 years and counting, and are still at R&D stage with S-Cell.
Maybe T-Cell or U/V/W cells will be the "right product at the right time".
A phase often used by AB over the past 7+years.
In the meantime he enjoys his mighty fine salary and benefits.

[beeezzz] 01/1/2022 21:48

I just ignore the dross....

This was mentioned on cpx thread...Superdelectrics

Coming to AIM in January...Backed by Mr Spencer - Billionaire..



Technology hey, never stands still, could be a few years or decades away, who knows with R&D companies.

[badger010776] 01/1/2022 20:59

Not sure why you've filtered me- I'm a genuine long term investor..odd..

[yellowf123] 01/1/2022 19:06

Google definition of "con man".

a man who cheats or tricks someone by gaining their trust and persuading them to believe something that is not true.

I think that sums up Haggis, and his perpetual pumping of a stock that has sadly continued to underperform for years.

The truth can be hard for some to take, but is indisputable.

[haggismchaggis] 01/1/2022 18:35

If anyone wants a New Year resolution, try "I will filter trolls and con men, instead of replying to them".

badger010776 1 Jan '22 - 11:20 - 20423 of 20425 (Filtered)
Muto 1 Jan '22 - 13:22 - 20424 of 20425 (Filtered)
YellowF123 1 Jan '22 - 15:29 - 20425 of 20425 (Filtered)

[yellowf123] 01/1/2022 15:29

This time next year Rodder's we will be millionaires.
Sound familiar. lol
Its always just one more year..
Under AB's guidance, and lack of leadership this will always be a maybe company.
We need a change of leadership, to somebody who has actually created wealth in a company and moved an R&D product to successful commercial operation.
The same old promises year after year have run very thin.
I just hope the Chairman is keeping his eyes open for such talent, otherwise this time next year we could well be saying "one more year".
GLA.

[muto] 01/1/2022 13:22

Feels like an eternity badger, but hopefully this will our year. Good luck to all you long persevering holders, and a Happy New Year.

[badger010776] 01/1/2022 11:20

Happy new year to all long term holders! 22 should be our year!!

[haggismchaggis] 31/12/2021 14:22

The S Series will sell by the truckload, that is why ABB have thrown £4m into the pot to get it fast tracked to 200KW units, DUH! It's also why we have an agreement to build the ZeroCoaster. Do you think these companies have not already been to AFC and SEEN the S Series working, and READ all of the technical data that AFC have produced on the S Series prototypes? People don't make these agreements based on nothing.

First of all though, the HFC will go out on sites under lease agreement from Jan/Feb 2022. The HFC is based on the S Series stack, it just uses a different chemistry so it can run on cracked Methanol without degrading at a higher rate than required. AFC should be able to shift loads of these because the lease option means no big CAPEX for the client.

[haggismchaggis] 31/12/2021 14:12

AFC's Market Cap and it's book value are very disconnected, because AFC have not had the IP valued by an authority on the subject. If the IP were valued, IMVHO the market Cap would have to quadruple immediately, Alkamem on it's own is worth A LOT of money, far more than the current Market Cap.

[haggismchaggis] 31/12/2021 14:11

As many here know, I have held AFC for 12 years (13 years in March 2022).

AFC is now in the position I had hoped it would be in, many times throughout that 12 years. The waiting is over as far as it goes regarding having a commercial product to sell.

We also have agreements with big partners to sell our FC systems into several multi billion pound markets. We also have some BIG clients on our list, plus 50+ qualified sales leads.

Sales in 2022 should easily push AFC into the Fuel Cell billion pound market cap group, joining most of our peers, as it is only the absence of sales that differentiates AFC from it's peers.

Any long term holder that sold now would have to be in very desperate need of the money, as no other reason I can think of right now would justify losing out on most likely the biggest year AFC has had since it listed on 24 April 2007.