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| Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Stock Type |
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| Dart Group Plc | DTG | London | Ordinary Share |
| Price Change | Price Change % | Share Price | Last Trade
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| 0.00 | 0.00% | 728.50 | 01:00:00 |
| Open Price | Low Price | High Price | Close Price | Previous Close |
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| 728.50 |
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Posted at 14/9/2020 11:02 by tongosti One needs to know when you're in the wrong. Completely out now for less than -1.5% loss on the day. DTG still a healthy +78% ytd. Live to trade another day gents! |
Posted at 20/8/2020 11:07 by bomber14 Made my first (small) purchase yesterday. Even though i reckon DTG still have a rough road ahead, I'm prepared to buy and hold at this price and will add in the future. It's very much a contrarian buy but DTG are such a well run company it's only a matter of time untill its fortunes turn. |
Posted at 17/8/2020 07:57 by tomps2 Thursday 10th September, 1pm: piworld Castleford Tiger/piworld interview. CT will cover current thoughts on Dart (DTG)Castleford Tiger was mentioned by Andy Brough, for his encyclopaedic knowledge of Dart Group (DTG). In this interview CT will cover DTG, as well as his investing style, his views on retail property, and those companies in his portfolio, which he believes have the greatest upside. Register here: |
Posted at 09/8/2020 13:18 by castleford tiger GrouceI cannot see a profit this year. It’s more a case of how big the loss is. Running 25% of any operation with high fixed cost base is never going to be profitable. Starting Spain and then closing it in under 4 weeks resulted in many empty flights at the front and back end of the operation. Passenger numbers compared to last year look like 25% at best ( we lost 3 months ) so we need 50% summer 3 months to get to overall 25% It’s been a much discussed topic as to current price. We have it’s settled and now there is no chance of it failing 7 quid looks fair. Can we be 100% this virus will be sorted by peak summer booking time ? ( January to March ) If not and next summer is the same DTG would need cash. The balance sheet looks ok but we don’t know what damage this has done. There maybe a huge fuel hedge cost for the next 6 months. We simply don’t know. Dart need to get some planes in the air but full ones. Prices are low hence a capacity reduction next year. In summary I don’t rate DTG a buy at 7 quid. Others do. We have no control and that’s dangerous. Best tiger |
Posted at 06/8/2020 19:48 by krobbo1 Yes completely agree. The price might not be bad - i think the key point being ‘if DTG survives’. I personally am holding off because too risky to say confidently that they will survive and in what state come out of this. DTG was for me (and May well be in future) a great investment - I would just rather invest with a little less risk until we have clarity if summer 2021 will be even reminiscent of 2019. Good luck with yours though! |
Posted at 06/8/2020 19:29 by tongosti As you may be aware, i don't have a DTG long term position but I think one still needs to be aware of RR estimates at any one point during the cycle. True, this is an unparalleled time in the wider sector but my point is that - bankruptcy aside - if DTG survives it all then the current price is not as bad as most think. After all, investing when all is gloomy around you is the key to the longer term isn't it. |
Posted at 03/8/2020 10:31 by bomber14 Seriously tho, who decided flying half empty planes to Spain and then completely empty planes back again was a good idea? Its smacks of desperation, not something you associate with DTG, that's an indication of how bad things are at DTG HQ. |
Posted at 27/7/2020 12:00 by castleford tiger I personally think this is all in the price already.Not sure Tong what you mean. the market is down 500 points 8% DTG is down £4.00 from its short term peak. The key word is CONFIDENCE used by 32 and I agree 100%. I am hearing from friends 2 completely different positions. Anyone nervous about the Virus /flying are those people who are holding back probably till spring 2021.....this will wipe out the late market. Others like me will take the cheap flights and the very low risk. The set back this weekend is dramatic and a fair few people were changing flights at Check in yesterday. Going back to the modelling that DTG did with the various options till April 21 I am not sure any showed the current situation. If we were mothballed its easier to calculate the cash burn. However running at 50% ( the reduced capacity) with lower prices and an increasing amount being spent on call centre staff trying to re book and refund .....how do you calculate those extra losses? It must be chaos at head office trying to do the right thing. The winter program which people still have to book I expect to be hit hard as the older generation are more nervous. I still think price will close about 50p down today but the future (12/18 months) is the unknown tiger |
Posted at 08/6/2020 13:12 by tongosti CT - sorry pal but you keep making my point ("...people speculating almost destroyed the business" - REALLY?!?!).Scapegoats and all ... safe to say (again) that you do not really understand how the markets work (how about you failing to heed my warnings on the way up?!) but hey live and let live as that's what makes a market. Re my arguing against you for years - I have made (and kept all of it) much more on DTG than your (then "paper profits" i might add) even during your DTG bluer sky days (+133% account wise on back of DTG mind you in 2019). C19 was just the most recent example so do not fool yourself (again) that you really understand what game you are playing. In bull markets you confuse your paper profits with cash in bank. In bear markets (at that point you blame those "evil speculators"), you give it all back. And then some. Naturally, none of it is your fault :). THINK ABOUT what you are really saying pal... Sour grapes and all - will leave it at this as I don't really think you get it . Keep up with your research though. Even if you can't beat the market you do indeed have a way to tell a good story. P.S. Mathematically, if you've lost -80% you need +400% to get back to breakeven. Hope you will not find it too hard (well you've already missed one such train over the last few weeks) ... good luck. As for me, think will indeed go on with my taking out pennies most days (as somehow they have a way of growing into £££'s by year's end as you have clearly seen on this very board). |
Posted at 07/6/2020 18:05 by tongosti Gennts - DTG fell below 200 on bankruptcy fears.With those fears now firmly removed (government help + meaningful progress on the Covid front), there is a very small chance we ever see those lows again, anytime soon. I hear one ask whether is there any scenario under which we touch the 200p+ levels again? Naturally, yes (anything is possible in the Universe we live in) is the answer but only if: 1. Covid makes a devastating comeback 2. There is indeed a once-in-our-lifetime economic contraction around the corner waiting Personally, I assign negligible odds to the above. As a result, current DTG pricing is based on: - DTG is the best of the bunch in its sector - With the market fully discounting disaster a few weeks back, DTG is now priced on "expected" 2021 (and beyond) fundamentals (hence any fundamental rationalisation on immediate prospects is misleading) I firmly agree that the odds of DTG seeing £20 anytime soon are fantasy but those who are hoping on us testing 200p+lows (so that they can get back in) have indeed missed the boat and are getting wrong the drivers that underpin DTG's share price. My best guess for the price range (as in the next 6 to 12 months), is anywhere between 700p-1300p. Anything above the top of that range will indeed require a materialisation of fundamentals re-asserting themselves again. And that, would be for 2021 and beyond. GLA P.S. No business model is rock solid when price ranges fluctuate -90% to +400% in under a few weeks. With the exception of top notch sovereign debt (caveat - no major inflation in the future otherwise this is tapioca as well), EVERYTHING else is speculation in this game. The most recent fluctuations in the market provide the ultimate proof (to those who keep an open mind and decide to show far more respect to Mr Market than the average Joe typically does) . DTG share price fluctuations made bitcoin look a respectable investment over the last few weeks, think we can all agree on that don't we |
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