Zenith Energy Share Discussion Threads

[pjj71] 16/6/2012 19:33

As the weeks and months go by the market makers make a fortune with these huge percentage spreads but the net aggregate naked short positions become astronomical from all of this activity. This leads to some apprehension amongst the co-conspiring MMs. The predicament they find themselves in is that they can't even stop naked short selling into every buy order that appears because if they do the share price will gap and this will put tremendous pressures on net capital reserves for the MMs and margin maintenance requirements for the co-conspiring hedge funds and others operating out of the more than 13,000 naked short selling margin accounts set up in Canada. And of course covering the naked short position is out of the question since they can't even stop the day-to-day naked short selling in the first place and you can't be covering at the same time you continue to naked short sell.

What typically happens in these situations is that the victim company has to massively dilute its share structure from the constant paying of the monthly burn rate with money received from the selling of "real" shares at artificially low levels. Then the goal of the naked short sellers is to point out to the investors, usually via paid "Internet bashers", that with the, let's say, 50 billion shares currently issued and outstanding, that this lousy company is not worth the $5 million market cap it is trading at, especially if it is just a shell company whose primary business plan was wiped out by the naked short sellers' tortuous interference earlier on.

The truth of the matter is that the single biggest asset of these victim companies often becomes the astronomically large aggregate naked short position that has accumulated throughout the initial "bear raid" and also during the "cellar boxing" phase. The goal of the victim company now becomes to avoid the 3 main goals of the naked short sellers, namely: bankruptcy, a reverse split, or the forced signing of a death spiral convertible debenture out of desperation. As long as the victim company can continue to pay the monthly burn rate, then the game plan becomes to make some of the strategic moves that hundreds of victim companies have been forced into doing which includes name changes, CUSIP # changes, cancel/reissue procedures, dividend distributions, amending of by-laws and Articles of Corporation, etc. Nevada domiciled companies usually cancel all of their shares in the system, both real and fake, and force shareholders and their b/ds to PROVE the ownership of the old "real" shares before they get a new "real" share. Many also file their civil suits at this time also. This indirect forcing of hundreds of U.S. micro cap corporations to go through all of these extraneous hoops and hurdles as a means to survive, whether it be due to regulatory apathy or lack of resources, is probably one of the biggest black eyes the U.S. financial systems have ever sustained. In a perfect world it would be the regulators that periodically audit the "C" and "D" sub-accounts at the DTCC, the proprietary accounts of the MMs, clearing firms, and Canadian b/ds, and force the buy-in of counterfeit shares, many of which are hiding behind altered CUSIP #s, that are detected above the Rule 11830 guidelines for allowable "failed deliveries" of one half of 1% of the shares issued. U.S. micro cap corporations should not have to periodically "purge" their share structure of counterfeit electronic book entries but if the regulators will not do it then management has a fiduciary duty to do it.

[duncandisorderly] 15/6/2012 12:06

Sorry,"Knows".Trying to do two things at a time.Not good for us blokes.

[pjj71] 15/6/2012 09:21

Given yesterday and the sudden leap in turnover I guess a resolution is close! - Maybe if all else fails Duncan they will give us the royalty stream for that 2HG wire which it seems Thyssen are busy with!

[bobby.ifa] 14/6/2012 12:20

Crikey, 2.6p to sell now, if these go any lower the company must consider suspension until they can sort out their position. People losing significant value by the day.

[duncandisorderly] 14/6/2012 08:30

Valued at just over 2 million now when it has about 4 million cash,no debt,huge tax write-offs,and million in IP's.
Cleaver literally has all the gear a no idea.

[duncandisorderly] 14/6/2012 08:13

I wouldn't say the current ,"trend is my friend."I would however say,Cleaver is a c*ck!

[pjj71] 14/6/2012 08:01

Tick tock went the zenergy clock! I wonder if no news is good news? although if the trend is your friend!

[duncandisorderly] 13/6/2012 11:18

Well the bid price has moved up so perhaps at last we will start to see some movement.

[pjj71] 13/6/2012 10:39

also SC has bought over 1,000,000 shares himself over the last year.. not forgetting the options that were written at 15p... i still believe a sale at 20p is not out of the question.

[duncandisorderly] 13/6/2012 09:45

The tax losses must stand at 25 million.It's worth us being bought out for half that value on that basis alone.

[pjj71] 13/6/2012 09:18

d&d, something must be cooking.. i really cant see the downside for here (famous last words!) cash burn has been reduced substantially since Germany closed, say at worst case its 180k a month that means we stil have GBP 4 million on the B/S, there is no debt and then there is the tax loss and product IP, which is unlikely to have a negative value... If SC cant secure a deal at a substantial premium then i for one will be calling in the serious fraud squad!!!!

[duncandisorderly] 13/6/2012 08:54

PJ they must have a deal lined up surely,otherwise why drag it out so long.What do you think?

[duncandisorderly] 13/6/2012 08:52

It just gives you that warm feeling inside knowing they are earing money on a daily basis.

[pjj71] 13/6/2012 08:42

tick tock went the zenergy clock (which is no longer powered by superconductors!)

[duncandisorderly] 13/6/2012 08:00

Wow!what are the chances....two unrelated posters who have never been here BEFORE talking about the same company.
There must be more chance of winning the lottery,lol,quite pathetic!

[looky] 12/6/2012 21:56

God help me.

i just bought FML because i saw so many recommendations to buy them - now i have to go and short them.

[rovi57] 12/6/2012 11:48

The England Team visiting an orphanage in Poland today.

"It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope"-----Said Igor Aged 6

[pjj71] 11/6/2012 16:57

A few of SCs quotes from the last 12 months during the share price collapse:

"The previous board's decision to put the Company into an 'Offer Period', which has now ended, and announce that the Company was for sale, both surprised and disappointed me. I have always believed that the intellectual property and technologies developed by Zenergy are both significant and valuable and, was therefore concerned that this approach was unlikely to maximise the value of the Company."

"The Company remains confident that considerable value exists within its portfolio of technologies and work is continuing apace to secure the right licensing and strategic deals across our product range and shareholders will be updated as appropriate."

"This is a major step forward. However, the Board is aware that it is news with regard to potential licensing and strategic deals that investors wish to hear about. Whist we are certainly not yet in a position to make any conclusive statement on this matter, we can confirm that we are having meaningful discussions with several leading companies on a number of different fronts and are working hard to deliver a successful outcome. We hope to be able to elaborate on this sometime in September."

[duncandisorderly] 11/6/2012 15:52

I want to know who decided to get this idiot in in the first place.Was it the major shareholders?Good idea getting a chemist in to run an engineering company.

[duncandisorderly] 11/6/2012 15:45

You know full well there will not be any news,not while there is a pay packet to be had.