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| Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Stock Type |
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| Wise Plc | WISE | London | Ordinary Share |
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| 10.00 | 0.96% | 1,053.00 | 10:34:35 |
| Open Price | Low Price | High Price | Close Price | Previous Close |
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| 1,042.00 | 1,028.00 | 1,055.00 | 1,043.00 |
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Posted at 06/1/2025 08:09 by cestnous UBS raises WISE TO £12.40 |
Posted at 04/1/2025 15:10 by dozey4 Telegraph article today catalogues experience of expat in Australia with English bank. Here’s an extract:“ Burton insisted the bank failed to notify him either by email, phone or through his address in Australia. The lack of notice, Mr Burton said, led to three months of arrears before his letting agent flagged the issue. He told The Telegraph: “Barclays has an international bank account you can apply for. Why on earth they didn’t transfer me to that, I have no idea.” Mr Burton insisted he tried everything to pay off the arrears but said endless red tape prevented him from doing so. He asked the Bank of Scotland if he could set up an account with them to pay the mortgage but was told this would not be possible. In October, he called the Bank of Scotland and he was told that the matter had been passed to a legal firm, and a court date had been set to grant the bank repossession of the property. He had been served at his buy-to-let address. Mr Burton eventually paid £18,000 directly from Australia to the Bank of Scotland. Increasing regulations mean more and more banks are closing their international accounts. “ WISE can only go from strength to strength in view of such ineptitude and I look forward to further advances. |
Posted at 04/1/2025 12:08 by the millipede Anyone know if Wise is likely to become eligible for inclusion in the FTSE indexes? |
Posted at 30/12/2024 11:31 by xippy From Money week - Analysis (Jamie Ward) Word to the wise: buy this stock now The foreign-exchange transfer service has the potential to become the Amazon of its sector, says Jamie Ward Wise money transfer app on a phone The group’s division serving small businesses is growing rapidly Twenty years ago, if you had asked the average professional investor, their description of Amazon would have been something like “it sells books online and it doesn’t make any money”. Had they been particularly sniffy about the business, they might have dismissed it as a “virtual Waterstones”. Yet today it is one of the largest firms in the world. It has revolutionised how we think about business-to-consumer (B2C) commerce and entrepreneurialism. Over those 20 years its value has surpassed $1trn in value and given investors a one hundred-fold return. For investors to benefit from future Amazon-like opportunities requires vision and long-term thinking. In the UK, Wise (LSE: WISE) has many of the characteristics of Amazon 20 years ago, including investors who dismiss it as “just a currency transfer business”. The following will explain why Wise is unlike anything else listed in the UK and has the potential to be a hugely profitable investment for those with the patience to see it through. It could become the first British company to be worth more than $1trn. A simple idea born of frustration The story of Wise began in the late 2000s at a time when the financial world was in the grips of its worst crisis in 80 years. Two Estonian expats living in London met at a party and bonded over their shared heritage. Kristo Käärmann was working as a management consultant and Taavet Hinrikus had been the first employee at Skype. Eventually the chat moved to a bugbear for them both – transferring money from euros and pound sterling or vice-versa. The pair had opposite problems. One was earning in euros but had expenses in pounds, whereas the other earned in pounds but had large euro expenses thanks to an Estonian mortgage. The problem was that when money was transferred from one currency to the other, they incurred expenses that were opaque, variable and very expensive. Furthermore, depending on the day of the week and time of the day, money might take five days to arrive in one account after leaving the other. As a smart pair of young, tech-savvy chaps, they concocted an idea to circumvent the process of using traditional transfer markets via the banking system. “Underpinning the group’s simple business model are sophisticated technology and hundreds of licences worldwide” The solution was to not change one currency for another. Rather, the one who earned in euros would deposit money into the other one’s euro account and vice-versa. This was done via an agreed market rate for currency transfers done via a Skype account. Since transferring money from one account to another in the same currency was a simpler process, it was almost free rather than expensive and it was considerably quicker. Over time, the pair saved each other thousands of pounds by avoiding the usual route to move money from one currency to another. After a few years they realised that they could provide this service to other people in similar situations, such as expats with expenses in currencies other than the one in which they earn. At the time, they thought there were 200 million people worldwide who lived like this. In January 2011, TransferWise was founded to address this market. Swifter without Swift The traditional way currency transfers are completed began in 1973 after a co-operative was founded in Belgium called the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (Swift). It is owned jointly by global banks and provides a messaging network for international payments. In 1973, it was technologically advanced and allowed a process that prior to its foundation was much more onerous and costly, but Swift itself is now outdated. It works as follows: 1. A customer instructs their bank that they would like to send currency in one currency to a different currency at a different bank. The bank charges a transfer fee, which is variable but can be relatively high, especially on small amounts of money. 2. A second, intermediary bank sends the money through the Swift network, which incurs an additional fee. 3. The exchange rate is calculated and marked up for a profit. 4. The recipient bank deposits the money in a different currency in a bank account. It then charges a recipient fee. It is cheaper than it used to be, but this whole process can add fees of more than 6%, so that in effect the recipient receives 6% less money than the sender sends. Additionally, banking is not a 24/7 operation – each bank along the way has different times when it transacts currency movements. The effect is that it regularly takes several days for money to appear in the recipient’s account. Simplistically, Wise’s model is to have pools of money in different currencies and locations. Customers instruct Wise to deduct some money in one currency locally and add it to an account in a different country with a different currency. Just because it seems simple, it isn’t easy. Underpinning this system is technology supported by almost 1,500 development staff. Moreover, to operate in this way has required hundreds of licences across the world. This is all so that a customer receives the same service whether they are transferring sterling into US dollars or Brazilian reals into Indian rupees. Wise’s system removes Swift from the procedure entirely and with it, considerable time and expense. In 2024, the average cost for a customer to send money through Wise was 0.59%, meaning, for example, a fee of 59p to transfer £100. For a customer transferring through a bank, it would cost around £6. Wise also reports that 60% of transfers are completed immediately (in less than 20 seconds), more than 80% are within an hour and 95% within 24 hours. Just 5% of transactions take longer than a day. Banks take between three and five days. Radical idea One way Wise makes money is that it charges a small fee for transferring a sum (pricing starts at 0.33%). However, this has been steadily reduced throughout the history of the company. The CEO and co-founder, Kristo, has stated that he wants currency transfers to be free. One might therefore ask if the company is giving away its service for free, how does it make any money and, more importantly, why bother investing? Customers with Wise accounts have money deposited with the company. This money earns income for Wise. More money transferred through the company increases the amount of customers’ money held on deposit, which means more profit for Wise. As with fees on transferring money, Wise plans to give as much back to customers as possible, but it can retain enough income from this source to add meaningfully to its profitability. So the bigger Wise becomes the more it earns on customers’ deposits. In turn it can lower the cost of transferring money between currencies. This is already 90% cheaper than traditional banks, and Wise intends to make this figure 100%. Jeff Bezos liked to say of other companies that “your margin is my opportunity”. What he meant by that was companies that were making money doing traditional activities (like selling books in large, expensively maintained bookshops) cannot compete with Amazon. Amazon is built to be the most efficient way of selling to customers imaginable. It reached its position by continually cutting the price of its services to customers, which entrenched its competitive advantage to the point of being insurmountable. There are loud echoes of this strategy in the way Wise operates where it, too, is entrenching its position so thoroughly that it is becoming impossible for incumbents to compete. Wise, not TransferWise For its first ten years, the company was called TransferWise because it was Wise to use its services to Transfer money. In February 2021, the company dropped “Transfer&rdqu In the past few years, the company has added more services, such as debit cards, to its offering, so that money in a Wise account can be spent as if it were in a bank account. Just as Amazon used book sales as a springboard to disrupt consumers’ commerce, currency transfer is a springboard to much more for Wise. Yet before the company expands into new areas, there is still massive opportunity in currency transfer. Last year, the company transacted roughly £120bn for individuals and small businesses, while more than £11trn was turned over globally, thus giving the company ample growth opportunity. Wise has three divisions. Two are exciting for investors given the growth possibility, but the third could be a game-changer. The company’s largest division, Personal, serves individuals. The second division, Business, serves small business accounts like small retailers. It was launched a little later but is rapidly growing into very large market. “Banks such as Standard Chartered are increasingly operating on Wise’s infra-structure&rdqu Before the third division is explained, consider the following analogy of what Wise has achieved. When it comes to currency transfers, banks are like train companies. They charge you £250 to go from Manchester to London and it takes two hours (if you are lucky). Wise has invented a teleportation device whereby you arrive in London as soon as you set foot in Manchester Piccadilly train station. Moreover, it only charges you £25 for the pleasure and, to top it off, is promising that in future it will be free. How can traditional train companies (banks) compete? Wise’s Platform represents the third part of the business. Here companies that transact very large amounts of currency can piggyback onto Wise’s infrastructure. Via a process known as white-labelling, companies that offer currency transfers to customers can transact through the Wise infrastructure but the client interface appears to be their own. In the UK, for example, customers who transfer currency through a Monzo bank account actually do so through Wise. Wise now has 90 banks globally conducting customers’ requests for currency transfers through the Wise platform. Most notably, Standard Chartered, a major multinational bank headquartered and listed in London, recently joined the Wise platform. The answer to the question above about how a traditional bank can compete with Wise is that they can’t. Instead, banks are increasingly circumventing the outdated Swift system and operating on Wise’s infrastructure. Back to the analogy – train companies have stopped using traditional rail tracks and are now using the teleportation device for their trains. Wise certainly has the qualities of a business that could become very special and valuable indeed. It is growing rapidly, is already very profitable and most importantly has a visionary CEO. Rather than focusing on how much money Wise is making in 2024, which is largely irrelevant in the long run, consider that Wise is building an entirely new infrastructure for a significant part of global finance. It is hard to gauge what that is worth, but a best guess is that it’s worth a lot more than today’s share price implies. It would be very optimistic to say that Wise could be the first UK $1trn company but it is a realistic possibility. |
Posted at 17/12/2024 15:03 by hericsaba Morgan Stanley has selected Wise Platform to enhance its foreign exchange international settlement capabilities for corporate customers, becoming the first investment bank to enable these corporate payment capabilities through Wise's infrastructure.The integration combines Wise's advanced payments technology with Morgan Stanley's integrated approach to provide fast, cost-effective cross-border settlements. Wise Platform offers instant completion for 63% of cross-border payments in under 20 seconds, supported by 65+ licenses and 6 direct payment system connections.This collaboration will complement Morgan Stanley's existing transactional foreign exchange services for corporate and institutional clients, leveraging Wise's local connectivity to reduce implementation timelines while maintaining service quality. |
Posted at 06/11/2024 13:03 by martinmc123 5*Wise plc posted another bumper set of Interims for the 6 months ended September this morning. The business operates in a huge, expanding market, with a small but growing share and it has huge growth potential accordingly, potential which is being delivered on. Active customers increased by 25% over the period, in H1 FY25 alone the Group helped 11.4m people and businesses move and manage their money around the world. Customers moved £68.4bn with Wise in H1 FY25, an increase of 19% vs H1 FY24. This robust growth...from WealthOracle wealthoracle.co.uk/d |
Posted at 05/11/2024 14:07 by lappuliisa Here's why it's up:Standard Chartered Partners with Wise Platform to Transform International Payments Experience In a significant move to strengthen its retail cross-border payments offering, leading global bank Standard Chartered has announced a partnership with Wise Platform, Wise’s global payments infrastructure for banks, to power faster and cheaper international payments for the bank’s cross-border payment service, SC Remit. The partnership will allow Standard Chartered’s SC Remit customers in Asia and in the Middle East to send money in 21 currencies including USD, CAD, EUR, GBP, SGD, HKD, JPY in a matter of seconds all while being fully transparent on pricing — customers getting the mid-market rate with no markups. hxxps://www.business (to fix the link replace hxxps with https) |
Posted at 02/11/2024 13:44 by mrscruff I have the enterprise value of WISE around the the £9.6 billion mark given net cash of £830m. Am I correct in thinking Stokapedia have it completely incorrect in thinking it has £5billion in net cash or are they accounting for something I have missed? hxxps://www.stockope |
Posted at 15/10/2024 10:19 by martinmc123 5*Wise plc, the money transfer firm, posted an upbeat Q2 FY25 trading update this morning. The number of active customers using Wise grew by 23% YoY to 8.9m in Q2, driven primarily by existing customers recommending Wise. This increased demand fuelled a 20% YoY increase in cross border volume to £35.2bn, a 20% YoY increase in customer deposits and a 49% increase in card and other revenue...from WealthOracle wealthoracle.co.uk/d |
Posted at 12/10/2024 07:07 by steve73 MrScruff, as a user of Wise for currency transfers, I keep an eye on how many transactions are being done in total, based on wise' transaction reference numbers for either external transfers (usually a fixed fee), or the other for internal transfers (no fee) and currency conversions (a % based fee).Somebody using Wise to make a simple currency exchange by funding it from a "Home" account and paying it into a "foreign" account would entail 2 external transfers and one internal conversion. This is how I used to use their services. I would do this around 1 or 2x per month. However, more recently I now fund my GBP account on a quarterly basis (paid direct from my pension provider), then make a series of smaller conversions potentially upto 10 per month (mostly limit orders), followed by just one transfer every month or two to my foreign account. In addition I make use of an interest paying "Jar" whereby I make one transfer per quarter into the jar, and around 3-5 transfers out per month to provide the necessary funds for the limit orders. Clearly, I now have many more internal transactions (although effectively the same net fee as before), and a few less external transactions (thereby saving me some small costs). Over the past 4-5 years the total daily average number of internal transactions (based on Wise' unique reference #s) has increased from c. 200 thousand to around 4 million now, whilst the number of external transactions has increased from around 200 thousand to just over 1 million now, as I suspect more of their customers use the account in a similar fashion to myself. But overall, their usage has increased substantially, and perhaps goes someway to answering your question. And as a "User" I'm more than happy with the service they provide..... |
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