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Posted at 20/10/2004 12:08 by kanebill 3pVTB would show a real loss still. Counting cash in the bank raised as a result of share issues hides the real figures. Comparing the "new" company figures with previous years does not show the true picture. This was what GG et al would not recognise as "smoke & mirrors" and so continued with the rose tinted spectacled view. I never could see the speculative 'projected' profit in the figures VTB presented. Yes - I lost money - but I have learned lessons. WTV may prove to be a sound investment (at current share prices) but WTV is not VTB. I know a lot of people are 'trapped', hoping for an escape route, but you really need to re-examine the new group and make your decision. I don't know if it is a winner or loser (about to start research) but the final decision will be mine... Questions must still be asked about VTB directors as that remuneration/bonus would not have been paid had VTB remained as it was. WTV may believe that it can generate profit from VTB activities, but I am still suspicious of the real motives. |
Posted at 15/10/2004 14:34 by choir boy Hi Spinor,That's why it's called a REVERSE takeover!!! The company taken over (WTV) ends up in charge of the company that bought it - hence "reverse". In a "normal" takeover, WTV would have bought the shares of VTB; the reason it's done in reverse is to retain VTB's AIM listing. Cheers, CB -------------------- spinor - 15 Oct'04 - 14:13 - 26860 of 26870 Euro re post 26851 I don't think many here believe a word that the VTB management say! It is a reverse take over in name only, WTV end up with the higher proportion of the shares, the WTV management are in charge And the VTB name is being replaced by Worlds name Seems to be a normal take over by WTV in every way except that VTB share holders did not get added value that's associated with a standard take over. |
Posted at 15/10/2004 12:24 by 3parsnips Virtue CommunicationsHi euro99 Re : Information from : Mr James Ormondroyd...Finance Director As you have a connection with VTB...would it be possible for you to contact James Ormondroyd and clarify the following : -------------------- In the Interim Results (20.09.04) VTB showed a Loss of £1.13 Million If VTB had not gone ahead with the World Tv merger, would VTB have made a small profit in the 6 month period from January - June 2004 ? £1M was paid to WTV and a further £1.09M was incurred in merger expenses. Without that £2.09M being paid out in connection with the merger with WTV is it the case that VTB would have made a small profit of around £960,000 ? In that 6 Month period.? -------------------- Thanks ----------- 3Parsnips |
Posted at 07/10/2004 11:11 by megsta nicknamesrsilly, Maybe! One of VTB's competitors already has links with See: Servecast have 2 divisions: Enterprise and Sports / Media. They have also recently launched a broadband service with (UK's Racing Channel): Racing UK, British Racing's dedicated horseracing channel, is to launch an on-line service next week which will make the best of UK racing available to an estimated 3.2 million broadband users though its website, www.racinguk.tv. I seem to vaguely remember that VTB lost out to another competitor on a large contract for William Hill some time back. I remember VTB had a contract to broadcast the National Lottery daily draw. VTB have concentrated on IR and internal comms, as they said that is were the money is! They sold their media division in 2003. However, WTV cover more than just IR - they do media, etc IMO, VTB have not acquired any significant contracts in the last year (excl. the Kamera / Vodafone deal, which does not count as classic VTB!). I know GG has posted links to new web casts, but I feel these are minor contracts / one offs; hence even VTB have not bothered to release any RNS / press releases to the market to annouce these deals. |
Posted at 04/10/2004 13:23 by 3parsnips Virtue CommunicationsRe : Who is HAPPY with the current share price (Mid 2.25p) It was confirmed in the "Interim Results" (20.09.04) that 99.7% of VTB shareholders voted for the VTB/WTV Merger : "The merger's rationale and attractiveness were affirmed by shareholders in August 2004 by 99.7% of the votes cast being in favour of the merger." -------------------- Some of the existing "LARGER" VTB shareholders gave irrevocable votes in favour of the merger deal ahead of the Vote at the EGM 18.08.04 : Name................ INTEROUTE........... AIM 2 VCT PLC................1 MR S CAMPBELL............ MR R GRAY................ MR D GRAPENGIESSER....... ISIS VCT PLC................. Total............... -------------------- The Kamera shareholders accepted shares worth at the time................ The people that took part in the placing bought shares worth at the time.3.25p -------------------- So WHY did those LARGER shareholders vote (IN FAVOUR) of the VTB/WTV merger deal... Presumably "they" were given information that : "we" did not get Bearing in mind that these LARGER shareholders who voted for in favour of the deal..have at the moment LOST a huge amount of value in the shares that they hold..surely it can only be the case..that the current situation as to the share price is.....TEMPORARY. Presumably these LARGER shareholders have been given information...where- Either way I have a feeling that they have been given the Info..."that don't worry..you will all be OK..you will be HAPPY" to have the number of shares that you are currently holding. It would appear that it is only us smaller shareholders..that have been left in the dark..for myself I intend to just sit back and relax and hopefully take my rewards for "holding" my shares..along with the LARGER shareholders who will no-doubt be collecting...their Rewards...when the time is right. -------------------- Kamera deal .......43,770,247 NEW VTB shares were issued (at 5.85p) Share Placing......95,422, World Tv deal.....440,800,265 NEW VTB shares were issued (at approx 3.88p) -------------------- 3Parsnips |
Posted at 30/9/2004 09:16 by euro99 jgb - is who me?E 3p.. If I was getting any inside information from VTB I would not be free to trade in their stock, which as you are well aware, I do. You might be surprised to learn that some of us are extremely well practised at avoiding sensitive discussion and - although I do speak to people at VTB regularly - I would no more put them in a compromised position than they would me. If I do have any insider information I am closed, and don't post here. I think I said to you some time ago that if I can help give you any insight into VTB, or interpret any public information, from the perspective of someone who understands something of the business and the marketplace then I am happy to do so - but that is as much help as I can be, I am afraid. sip2stream has no connection to vtb other than the fact that we have used vtb streams to test parts of it. We might just as well have used streams from msn or anybody else, but at least with vtb we can rely on high quality streams which don't go down. P [Edit - I would add that VTB has changed fast as a company - more so now than ever. The company which we own today is not the company I left two years ago, and from my perspective I am still making up my mind about the new shape. The stock market obviously hates it, but the customers seem to love it. Time will tell.] |
Posted at 30/9/2004 08:35 by 3parsnips Virtue CommunicationsHi euro99...Also known as : Mr Peter Millar Hagerty Not wishing to get at you...However I personally do find it a bit strange that with your connections to (VTB) as listed below... You post on this BB as if you do not have any more knowledge than the rest of us...I would have thought..that if I was in your position..that I would be getting some sort of information through my family connections...also your OWN previous and recent dealings with VTB management. I am (NOT) implying that you are being fed insider information...but with your family connections & Business dealings with (VTB)...If I were in your position I am sure that I would get some sort of "general" comment advising me BUY HOLD SELL. -------------------- Just to get things straight : The Founding members of (VTB) were Giles English & Nicholas English You used to work as CTO "Chief Technical officer" for (VTB) with both Giles & Nicholas English Your Sister-in-law is Married to Giles English..who is : (currently a non-executive director of VTB) Nicholas English is currently working for (Interoute) a Larger shareholder of VTB...(15,294,909 VTB shares)...Interoute recently voted in favour of the World Tv merger. You are at the moment (CEO) of One of your products Sip2stream recently used the services of (VTB) through Unit.net for a trial : -------------------- 3Parsnips |
Posted at 27/9/2004 14:26 by 3parsnips Virtue CommunicationsHi euro99 You used to have 4.5+ Million VTB shares...maybe you still have ? Re : What do think is the (END-GAME) for the Larger Shareholders ? -------------------- As far as I can see the Larger shareholders have "NO-CHANCE of making a profit on the shares that they have been issued with...by being able to SELL their shares on the open market...there are NOT going to be enough NEW buyers coming forward to BUY their shares at a higher price...they will be unable to get out of VTB/WTV with a profit. If any of the Large shareholders started to sell in any substantial amounts then the share price would plummet.. -------------------- The only way (as far as I can see) they can profit from the shares that they have been issued with is...If a Larger company comes along and BUYS out VTB -------------------- The Major shareholders must be hoping to be offered a higher price than the price at which (their) shares were issued to them at. At the moment the value of their shares is meaningless...techni Kamera deal .......43,770,247 NEW VTB shares were issued (at 5.85p) Share Placing......95,422, World Tv deal.....440,800,265 NEW VTB shares were issued (at approx 3.88p) --------- 3Parsnips |
Posted at 26/9/2004 17:35 by 3parsnips Virtue CommunicationsRe : What is the (END-GAME) for the Larger Shareholders ? -------------------- As far as I can see the Larger shareholders have "NO-CHANCE of making a profit on the shares that they have been issued with...by being able to SELL their shares on the open market...there are NOT going to be enough NEW buyers coming forward to BUY their shares at a higher price...they will be unable to get out of VTB/WTV with a profit. If any of the Large shareholders started to sell in any substantial amounts then the share price would plummet.. -------------------- The only way (as far as I can see) they can profit from the shares that they have been issued with is...If a Larger company comes along and BUYS out VTB -------------------- The Major shareholders must be hoping to be offered a higher price than the price at which (their) shares were issued to them at. At the moment the value of their shares is meaningless...techni So until such time as an offer to BUY VTB/WTV comes along...It will be in the interests of all the major shareholders for the company to keep on developing and improving...demonstr -------------------- It could well be the case..that there is a (Master-Plan) being played out...For VTB to make various acquisitions...Unit. -------------------- THEN the other Larger Company completes the Plan by acquiring VTB/WTV...saves that Larger company from having to deal with all that messing about. -------------------- Kamera deal .......43,770,247 NEW VTB shares were issued (at 5.85p) Share Placing......95,422, World Tv deal.....440,800,265 NEW VTB shares were issued (at approx 3.88p) ----------------- 3Parsnips |
Posted at 23/9/2004 11:11 by 3parsnips Virtue CommunicationsHi euro99...(AKA Mr Peter Millar Hagerty) Could you confirm once and for all..your relationship with any (VTB) directors..it was said some time ago..that you were the brother-in-law of one/both of the English Brothers... As we know Giles English is currently a non executive director of VTB...while his brother Nicholas English moved over to work as a director for "Interoute" STILL..one of VTB'S Larger shareholders...when VTB sold off it's media division. -------------------- Although you may NOT be priviy to any specific insider information from your director relatives...are you able to get a general feel as to wheather they are generally Happy with the way things are going...Is there an air on confidence that VTB/WTV will be a successful company in the short/medium/long term ? -------------------- As you have previously disclosed your real name to be :"Peter Millar Hagerty" On (21.08.03) in an RNS you were shown to be holding 4,567,890 shares in VTB Also as CEO of Eisos your company has used VTB services on a trial with your product Sip2stream Bearing in mind your above "contacts"...Have you decided to : maintain/increase/de -------------------- euro99 - 21 Sep'04 - 16:42 - 25930 of 26118 ct.. i am as dissapointed with the directors as you are just at the moment. Maybe more so, as I know some of them well and I have to say with complete honesty that I did not expect this turn of events. Thanks --------------- 3Parsnips |
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