Victoria Share Chat (VCP)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Victoria	LSE:VCP	London	Ordinary Share	GB00BZC0LC10	ORD 5P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	+0.00p	+0.00%	640.00p	640.00p	650.00p	-	-	-	0	05:00:01

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Household Goods & Home Construction	424.8	13.4	8.6	74.6	800.02

Victoria Share Discussion Threads

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Date	Subject	Author	Discuss
17/10/2018 16:22	This is such an international company now that I should have thought the global situation was more relevant than the local situation but I, too, am unsure whether to buy more in my ISA and offload some of my non-ISA to grandchildren at this moment or whether they are likely to go even lower.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply
17/10/2018 12:03	Starting to get a bit concerned about this drop. Should be a boom time of the year for floorcovering manufacturers, Brockways and also Adam's carpets from Kidderminster are doing well at the moment, by all accounts.	rotrader	Read Full Thread Reply
09/10/2018 17:45	MMs have certainly been keep (or play looking keen) to get stock recently. e.g. this afternoon you could sell 25k @ 742p. Wonder how long that generosity will last!	typo56	Read Full Thread Reply
09/10/2018 15:00	Anyone else smelling the stink? It's the smell of shorters soiling themselves wondering what to do when the press article fails and they are 5 mln shares in the hole...how do you close out that number of shares when the company is in fine fettle, is following the plan and is less vulnerable than you thought...? Back to the drawing board gents (loose title) and think about where else to risk other people's money...	gabrieloak	Read Full Thread Reply
08/10/2018 07:37	Essential...please make whatever case you want...debate is helpful. What I am pointing out is that the timing of that article yesterday (printing nothing new but bringing to attention what happened 3 weeks ago) coincides with the shares starting to pick up on Friday. GO	gabrieloak	Read Full Thread Reply
07/10/2018 20:43	HEAD is a distributor, not a manufacturer and also have net cash, no debt. I'm not making any case for buying Headlam btw.	essentialinvestor	Read Full Thread Reply
07/10/2018 20:39	Comparing VCP with Headlam is laughable...we have been taking their market share for starters! Bit like the last shorting effort precipitated by carpetright...the INEPT RETAILER...VCP the MANUFACTURER.	gabrieloak	Read Full Thread Reply
07/10/2018 20:36	Inaccurate and outdated article...GW owns 20% and the news of shorters is weeks old. What they weren't banking on is the big holders (~75% of the Co upping their stakes) Smacks of total desperation..."please print something to try and get the share price down further...the stock is starting to go up and we need to buy our stock back!!" ...Well that's just great...these pondlife parasitic funds shorting a solid British manufacturing company while this country is going through a systemic change...what a bunch of Sh*tbags with no regard for the many jobs this company provides in this country...all on a hunch that the shares were "ripe for a cropping having gone up rapidly..."rather like that idiotic shorter 3 years ago...Lucian something or other...lost his shirt (and others theirs) trying to short this company...GO away and earn a proper living...	gabrieloak	Read Full Thread Reply
07/10/2018 18:22	“Typical journalist hyperbole (and probably spoon-fed by the shorters). With analysts forecasting operating profits over £90 million this year I’d say Victoria won’t be too worried about making the interest payments (to say the least!) I’m with gabrieloak (post 1036) - there’s going to be quite a squeeze on the way up :)”	cmw1	Read Full Thread Reply
07/10/2018 15:24	wrong on the 2nd part for sure Net debt at the year-end was GBP258.7m (that's end of March 2018 ) Question is how serviceable is it? I have not seen anything to worry me. tiger	castleford tiger	Read Full Thread Reply
07/10/2018 15:06	Anyone read the mail article on vcp? "Soros takes huge bet against vcp" "Floor covering markets are cyclical and vcp has a lot of debt" Firstly, I would hardly describe 1.25% as a huge bet. Secondly, I thought vcp are debt free!	5chipper	Read Full Thread Reply
25/9/2018 16:38	Ho Hum... Those concert effort shorters are starting to get a bit twitchy...Oh what a squeeze on the way up! The market had no stock offered today...bidding all the way. 4+ mln shares shorted---> needed to be purchased on the way up! Stinky	gabrieloak	Read Full Thread Reply
19/9/2018 12:40	Thank you, nivison. Very helpful since I had no idea that selling to a US company was Victoria's publicly stated end game. That defeats my object of holding them as an AIM share for IHT purposes and will create a large cgt bill (though I do have quite a few losses to offset) since they are not in an ISA (I had to remove them when they went on AIM as that was not allowed in ISAs in those days). Perhaps I'll spread them round the family, subject to cgt allowance limits after offsetting losses and hope to live 7 years, though I think that concession might disappear in the next budget, and maybe buy a few in my ISA. A lot of headscratching, numberwork and paperwork coming up. Better get on with it.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply
19/9/2018 10:35	I am holding for the long term.(I'm in my fifties but who knows!) I don't day trade, I try to look for well run companies with good management and a good story. This fits. The honest answer to your other question is 'I don't know'. I cannot second guess the inner workings of hedge funds and their algorithms. I try to keep things simple. The only thing I do know is that Victoria's publicly stated end game is a sale to a US company and the two funds that are accumulating at the moment are both US based. That could be pure coincidence of course. There are risks to investing in any company. At the moment there are macroeconomic factors, i.e. Brexit, which is muddying the waters for everyone. The UK housing market is having a quiet patch. But most of Victoria's income is now from outside the UK and if I was a US carpet company looking for a way into the European market I wouldn't wait for the shares to be really expensive before diving in. I would look for an opportunity when the dollar is strong and UK shares are undervalued. In my view, Brexit is an opportunity for global companies looking at UK purchases. Thats about as sophisticated as I get. This isn't my largest holding and I have quite a bit in cash at the moment. Only you know what you are prepared to risk, you just need to weigh up the pros and cons and make a decision. The balance of fear and greed! Could be wrong, could be right.	nivison	Read Full Thread Reply
18/9/2018 18:04	I have a reasonably large (for me) certificated holding which has come back a lot but still well in profit and spare cash in my ISA. Am wondering whether I dare buy some in the latter or I could give some to family members and hope they recover. Are you holding for the long term which I was, although I doubt that will be very long at my age. I don't have time to keep a close watch on shares so don't trade, though I really should have top sliced. I wonder why they were so heavily shorted and now being bought back by a firm which usually shorts. All beyond me.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply
18/9/2018 18:04	I have a reasonably large (for me) certificated holding which has come back a lot but still well in profit and spare cash in my ISA. Am wondering whether I dare buy some in the latter or I could give some to family members and hope they recover. Are you holding for the long term which I was, although I doubt that will be very long at my age. I don't have time to keep a close watch on shares so don't trade, though I really should have top sliced. I wonder why they were so heavily shorted and now being bought back by a firm which usually shorts. All beyond me.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply
18/9/2018 17:37	Well maybe - who knows? I hope they have bought with a longer term thought process. But the facts are that Spruce have just increased their holding by 2,190,000 shares and the short will need to close at some point. Assuming that Spruce have hoovered up all the shares sold by the shorter where are these shares going to come from? maybe we will see a bit of a squeeze on the short. But I am no expert and that is just my guess.(and hope!)	nivison	Read Full Thread Reply
18/9/2018 13:20	Perhaps they are hoping that will encourage people to pile in and then they will sell for a quick profit and start shorting.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply
18/9/2018 11:22	So thats just short of 27% of the company in American hands now....not all the same hands but nonetheless interesting to me. Spruce are based in New York, Invesco in Atlanta.	nivison	Read Full Thread Reply
18/9/2018 10:54	What do they know? Spruce House Partnership increases holding from 6.18% to 7.93%.	cmw1	Read Full Thread Reply
17/9/2018 17:28	You are 100% right,nivison. In fact, one of the world’s most successful hedge funds, Spruce House Partnership, has been hoovering up every share they can get their hands on. Going from nothing to over 6% in a couple of weeks!	cmw1	Read Full Thread Reply
17/9/2018 12:28	I think it will be interesting to see if Invesco or any of the other significant shareholders take advantage of this drop to add. The recent issue was oversubscribed so there still seems to be an institutional appetite for these shares. The management seem very open with their accounting information - its all there for everyone to read and analyse on the new website. Ennismore obviously have a view but no one gets it right all the time - if that were the case this shares lark would be easy.	nivison	Read Full Thread Reply
15/9/2018 16:36	Is there a price at which Mr Wilding would be a buyer, even to the extent of taking the company private? Never under estimate the gentleman.	countryman5	Read Full Thread Reply
13/9/2018 21:43	I don't know but whenever I see Ennismore short a stock I run a mile. Look at their track record; Telit, Sirius Minerals, Dignity, IQE, McCarthy and Stone just to make a few recent ones. They arent lazy shorts (like those who sort debenhams and never look back), they only have a few positions and short when they have something juicy... and they just opened a short in Victoria. I generally wonder what they have found out.	brokenbuckles	Read Full Thread Reply
13/9/2018 17:24	Perhaps the shorters have switched to VCP as RPC is subject of t/o talks.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply

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