Victoria Share Chat (VCP)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Victoria	LSE:VCP	London	Ordinary Share	GB00BZC0LC10	ORD 5P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	-1.00p	-0.16%	616.50p	610.00p	623.00p	617.50p	616.50p	617.50p	14,677	09:01:40

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Household Goods & Home Construction	330.4	18.8	13.8	44.5	560.83

Victoria Share Discussion Threads

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Date	Subject	Author	Discuss
14/8/2017 07:20	Hardly insider info, everyone's talking about it at Victoria carpets, Abingdon and Westex (and probably G Tuft) I found out from P Hartley MD Victoria Carpets	alemein	Read Full Thread Reply
11/8/2017 12:55	If you are right then you are broadcasting insider information...	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
11/8/2017 12:52	Alemein...what are you talking about ? I don't understand...has something happened with GTuft now? There is no announcement...? Are you saying something has happened with GTuft? If so...apologies. Not what I was told.	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
11/8/2017 10:10	No need to apologise wingspan	alemein	Read Full Thread Reply
11/8/2017 10:08	Perhaps PI's have read the RNS about reorganisation within the group, then realised it is not within the group (G Tuft) Then sold out because they do not trust any other information given out. G Tuft are to become a commercial partner and have purchased Tufting machinery from Victoria Carpets - makes you wonder why the group manufacturers couldn't produce it all. Makes no sense to outsource it when Victoria PLC are such a large group and synergies being there favourite word. I think Phllippe Hamers as made a massive mistake here. GW needs to look into this before the rot sets in.	alemein	Read Full Thread Reply
11/8/2017 07:50	Recent Price action (surely?) indicates something is going on here...	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 11:26	The group are doing well at the moment but could be a big mistake with Victoria Carpets moving manufacturing. We will see.	rotrader	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 10:14	It sometimes pays to sit on your hands and do nothing. I have held for many years and it is nearly a l6 bagger for me, more if you consider the big div. they paid when Wklding took ovr more than covered my purchase costs. Makes up for the many disasters I have had.	bouleversee	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 09:33	For a reason, just take a look at 1boston's post 836. Just rather disappointed that I did not buy back in to VCP as soon as I read it. GLAH.	shanklin	Read Full Thread Reply
04/8/2017 08:46	Tremendous rise in the last week Anyone have a view why ?	nfs	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 11:18	You've called it R... Let's see if you are right.	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 11:00	Probably the plan, but if not it will cost Victoria Carpets more to have their carpet manufactured by G Tuft. Come to that Abingdon Carpets will still need to make a profit also. Could be the end of Victoria Carpets before long.	rotrader	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 10:58	R, As long as "manufacturing operations" move to the two other production facilities and not somewhere else (which - I agree - would be misleading) then how is there duplicity? What does it matter that some machinery is sold to GTuft in the process? As CT suggests there MIGHT be wheels within wheels - and GTuft is acquired by VCP but at this stage plausibility from my perspective is that they are moving operations and selling some kit in the process...guess we will have to wait and see...one thing though: consultation is 30 days for the number of job losses (circa 60) that I heard about...the announcement went out on 26th June...now we are 28th July. According to the logic here of underhand behaviour we will know soon enough on GTuft. W	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 10:00	unless the plan is to take it over?	castleford tiger	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 09:22	I believe the problem is that this comment - "manufacturing operations in Kidderminster to the Group's two other UK carpet production facilities," was written on documents to employees (consultation period) and in an RNS to the stock exchange. It is clearly not the case - G Tuft are not part of the group.	rotrader	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 08:59	A...you said the company was behaving in an underhanded manner because they were waiting until an opportune moment to announce a takeover (while within a redundancy scenario). Broadly, your 1+1 equalled more than 2. The purpose of my posts was to correct this assumption which Rotrader has now confirmed.	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 08:51	Is it that if there is much needed capacity then why sell an asset that can provide that capacity? Surely, this is the companies business? Maybe they intend to buy new machinery? Maybe they can optimise better with what they are doing? Where is the lie ? And if they are no longer (as you confirm) waiting until the end of the consultation period on redundancy to announce another takeover - where is the underhanded activity? Is the company now not allowed to sell equipment it no longer wants?	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
28/7/2017 08:44	Yes Rotrader...this is what I heard. So, during this process of rationalisation some machinery is sold to GTuft... Genuinely: Can someone explain in simple terms why this is underhand, untruthful etc? What am I missing?	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
27/7/2017 20:31	wingspan - Alemein It was my intention to keep out of your discussion because you both have some valid points. But it has become known to me today, some information that seems to contradict some of the statements made. The RNS concerning manufacturing and logistics states that - "The reorganisation of the manufacturing capability, which involves the transfer of manufacturing operations in Kidderminster to the Group's two other UK carpet production facilities, will: · Rationalise the Group's manufacturing operations to drive further incremental margin uplift. · Optimise asset utilisation and positively impact manufacturing efficiency to provide significant - and much needed - additional capacity without material capex." I have been informed today G Tuft (not part of the group)will be taking three tufting machines and the beaming facility. The rest of the manufacturing machinery will be going to Abingdon Carpets Wales. Someone is not telling the truth. IMHO off course.	rotrader	Read Full Thread Reply
25/7/2017 13:14	Sorry A...was trying to soften it... I KNOW that GTuft is a non starter.	wingspan	Read Full Thread Reply
25/7/2017 12:49	Thank you 1boston, that's helpful.	shanklin	Read Full Thread Reply
25/7/2017 12:43	Re organic growth, just seen a couple of analyst reports out this morning on VCP: Like For Like revenue up 4.6% and LFL margins up 10.6%. Strong and impressive progress in my view.	1boston	Read Full Thread Reply
25/7/2017 10:48	wingspan "Our dependency on any one market continues to reduce with more than 30% of the group's earnings now coming from outside the UK. This trend is expected to increase further in 2018." You have gone from saying that my comments about G Tuft are incorrect to "Let's wait and see on GTuft but I am fairly sure that is a non starter". But like you say lets wait and see. You also did comment "Are you interested in undermining all those uk jobs with your posts?" I can categorically state that is not the case. Decent results, but as always its knowing when to get out. Wish you all the best of luck.	alemein	Read Full Thread Reply
25/7/2017 09:14	Last year's full year results included: "This growth was primarily a result of the contribution from acquisitions, both in terms of the acquisitions in the year of Quest Carpets and Interfloor Group, and the full-year beneficial impact of Abingdon Flooring and Whitestone Weavers group, which were acquired during the previous financial year. In addition, the underlying business has continued to perform strongly, delivering average organic revenue growth across the Group of over 3.0%, driven by increased sales volumes." So VCP have previously given details of organic growth.	shanklin	Read Full Thread Reply
25/7/2017 09:14	Got to love GW's closing points: -- Our dependency on any one market continues to reduce with more than 30% of the group's earnings now coming from outside the UK. This trend is expected to increase further in 2018. -- We have a strong sales culture; irrespective of title, everyone is a sales person. -- Our reorganisation lowers costs while increasing cost variability, thereby giving us greater resilience in variable economic conditions. -- We have done a large amount of prospecting work - primarily in Europe - and are confident of securing some high-quality, earnings-accretive acquisitions.	wwick	Read Full Thread Reply

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