U And I Share Discussion Threads

[elmfield] 13/4/2016 21:52

I think it is all part of not being in because of the worry of a brexit on
top of macro economic problems looming closer.

[eeza] 13/4/2016 21:41

I make it 2,106000.

904688 + 98658 + 437679 + 665000

Long way to go if it's Aberdeen bailing.

[skyship] 13/4/2016 19:15

Yes - 1.12m sold @ 180.75p - could that finally be the end of BlackRock; or the start of Aberdeen bailing out as well. The former surely...

If Tilts is buying; I better make another top-up as still below my 10% MAX.

[tiltonboy] 13/4/2016 16:40

Picked up quite a few small lots this afternoon, and then noted some bigger stuff being marked afterwards.

[orinocor] 13/4/2016 16:29

thanks

this stock is certainly unloved, market up nearly 2% and this going nowhere

[skyship] 12/4/2016 18:13

orinocor - see this thread for charts of the peer group. UAI has been demonstrably the basket case for 9months; so hopefully the Finals on the 28th will, not before time, give birth to a good recovery...

[orinocor] 12/4/2016 13:07

That's quite a chart. Is the peer group showing the same decline?
At what price is BREXIT factored in?
TIA

[leedsu36] 10/4/2016 17:46

Jeez that means there's still millions of sales going through.

[eeza] 09/4/2016 10:33

Sky, yes I was aware that transaction notification could be delayed but would think that there must be some time boundary - else it could be stretched out for months, or forever.
Quite often you get a holdings RNS one day e.g through 10%, followed by another the next, through 9%, and another the next through 8%.

Last holdings announcement from Blackrock was on 18 Feb when falling below 5%.
Last from Aberdeen was 16 Mar when they sold 98k to take them below 14%.

[skyship] 09/4/2016 09:48

eeza - this is what I was referring to; but perhaps just a red herring:

'T' If reporting a single protected transaction.
A protected transaction occurs when a large order is going through the market. The buyer (or seller) may wish to keep the order anonymous from the rest of the market as the size of the order could greatly alter the price of the stock. With a protected transaction, the dealer will put the trade through in small quantities rather than knock the whole order out in one hit. The entire transaction is reported once the deal is completed. The LSE is notified at the start and at the end of the transaction. However, the market as a whole isn't told until the end, thus the order is protected.

[tiltonboy] 08/4/2016 21:52

Through each % it needs announcing, with 3% being the threshold.

[eeza] 08/4/2016 19:09

"but I do believe that there is some dispensation for a selling shareholder so that they need only declare when they've finished, so as not to jeopardise their intent."

I'm quite sure the regs will justify opaqueness - but to take your argument a little further, if that was the case (as outlined above) then we wouldn't have had any notifications at all until they actually arrived at a zero holding.
And the requirement to disclose when passing through each 1% (up or down) would be totally unnecessary.

[elmfield] 08/4/2016 18:14

At some stage you will make money here, I think,
However I remain out.
Some time you have to see through the trees.

[skyship] 08/4/2016 18:09

Well, if three of you forgive me, then I return, chastened and determined to be more objective - with UAI at least!

I tried checking out the LSE Regs on stake declarations; but wasn't as simple as I imagined. I'm sure Tilts will help us out on that one; but I do believe that there is some dispensation for a selling shareholder so that they need only declare when they've finished, so as not to jeopardise their intent.

[eeza] 08/4/2016 15:56

Have to notify until below 3%.

[speedsgh] 08/4/2016 15:42

Do Blackrock have to continue notifying further reductions seeing as (according to 18/2 rns) they are now below 5% threshold?

[hpcg] 08/4/2016 15:34

Weekly close is not going to look good on the chart. My price prediction is somewhere much lower. Am I doing the de-ramping correctly, or is this just my honest opinion?

[stupidboypike] 08/4/2016 15:22

tiltonboy, Hook line and sinker that one. SKY we all love you really!!

Best regards SBP

[cousin jack] 08/4/2016 14:45

Sky: My previous post obviously gave you the wrong impression. I was just wryly acknowledging your continued (and admirable) optimism in the face of the downward trend. And, for myself, saying that I was keeping my holding under review but not adding. I hadn't meant to sound "worried" - been in the stock market too many years to hold positions which would do that.

Keep your posts and ideas going - they are appreciated and always worth investigating.

[tiltonboy] 08/4/2016 14:40

I'm pulling your leg!

[skyship] 08/4/2016 14:11

Tilts - how should I put it? A 10% rise would only take them back to the 200p level of early March; and I think that almost a given.

The MCap here is £228m; so I cannot conceive that my posts are likely to have a smidgeon of price effect. Ergo - I'm not ramping, I'm expressing a personal opinion that this is a pricing aberration - rather like SREI when Lloyds inexplicably sold them down and down and down. When they exhausted, the share price immediately responded and snapped back up by 20% over the following few weeks.

Note - I also suggested CJ may be better advised to sell!!! Doesn't sound much like ramping text.

Heyho - OK - no more posts here until 28th April, unless I feel I have something more original to contribute.

[verulamium] 08/4/2016 14:05

Thanks for the Bromley update speedsgh - hope it gets sorted.

[tiltonboy] 08/4/2016 13:49

SKYSHIP,you are using that ramping terminology again. You are too good for that!

[speedsgh] 08/4/2016 13:43

May be worth fellow shareholders following UAI's twitter feed for project updates -

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