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[piedro] 18/8/2016 09:52

Source and Melton, this issue requires further research.

That article I see is dated 14-Nov-2013 and was clearly promoted by Tristel.
The part "in a form that only Tristel produces" is interesting when
considering the 'Doncaster and Bassetlaw Hospitals' document mentioned above.

The referred cleaning manual seems to be from 2009:


keep digging ...

[melton john] 18/8/2016 08:56

Well I'm in up to my neck source, not waiting for any more signals.

[source] 18/8/2016 08:12

Melton John. That statement from the new NHS manual seems very compelling.

It seems to specify Tristel product alone needs to be used by all hospitals, which is very positive.

Only question now is do all hospitals abide by that guidance or not?!

Seems they should do given the seriousness of the bug and the need for them to execute effective cleaning regimes etc.

Regards,
Source.

------------------posted NHS standard below again --------------

"The latest leading healthcare cleaning manual from the NHS has recommended the use of chlorine dioxide based disinfectants, in a form that only Tristel produces, to fight C.difficile and MRSA outbreaks."

[piedro] 17/8/2016 16:04

Have a look at this ...

Doncaster and Bassetlaw Hospitals
NHS Foundation Trust

SPILLAGE OF BLOOD AND OTHER BODY FLUIDS
Date issued: 17 April 2014
Next review date: January 2017
...
4.1   ; DISINFECTION OF BLOOD AND BODY FLUID SPILLS
Disinfection aims to reduce the number of microorganisms to a safe level.  The disinfectants
currently used within the Trust for dealing with blood and body fluids are Difficil‐S and a
Chlorine‐based disinfectant Haz Tabs.  
Difficil‐S is used within wards, high risk areas such as Accident Emergency and theatres (how
to use Difficil‐S refer to PAT/IC 24 Cleaning and disinfection of ward based equipment).
Difficil‐S is an agent that contains Chlorine dioxide as the active chemical, Chlorine dioxide is
a gas in solution it is rapidly effective against viruses, fungi, bacteria and spores.  
Difficil‐S should not be mixed with other chemicals see. Once this solution is prepared it can
be used directly onto the spillage. It is suggested the spill is absorbed using e.g. paper towels
and then disinfect the remaining areas using Difficil‐S.  
A Chlorine‐based disinfectant (Haz Tabs) is used within outpatients departments and communal
areas outside wards. Haz Tabs disinfectant solution is expressed as parts per million (ppm) of
available chlorine. A dilution of 10,000 ppm is required for treating blood spillages. See Appendix
1 & 2.
...

[piedro] 17/8/2016 15:04

Further reading ...

These Germs Can Survive in Pool Chlorine

[piedro] 17/8/2016 14:56

Another chlorine dioxide product:



Difficil-S® Surfaces

Difficil-S for Surfaces can be used for many applications including:
- walls and floors
- toilets sinks and showers
- organic and blood spills
- food preparation surfaces
- commodes

About Difficil-S
Difficil-S is a range of supremely effective, broad-spectrum disinfectant cleaners that achieve a 5-log reduction (99.999%) in pathogens within 5 minutes.

Unlike most disinfectant cleaners which commonly use chlorine as their active ingredient, Difficil-S uses chlorine dioxide, which is very different from chlorinated products like sodium hypochlorite, chlorine tables, bleach and hypochlorous acid both in behaviour and its chemical structure.

[piedro] 04/8/2016 12:10

FYI,

Hospice sentenced after Legionella death
A hospice based in Sydenham, Kent, has been sentenced after a patient died of Legionnaires' disease and a worker suffered life changing effects as a result of contracting the disease.
Southwark Crown Court heard how a man was admitted to St Christopher's Hospice (SCH) in July 2012. He was taken to a nearby Hospital three days later, where he died after just over a month. He was subsequently found to have died of Legionnaires' disease which he contracted during his time at the Hospice.
In December 2012, an orderly worker contracted Legionnaires' disease while carrying out her duties at the Hospice and spent 18 days in a coma before making a recovery.
After the hearing HSE inspector Matt Raine said: "The risks of Legionella are well known in the healthcare industry. St Christopher's Hospice had implemented some measures in an attempt to control legionella. However, they failed to appoint a competent person to manage the risk of legionella in the Hospice's hot and cold water system.
"The failures in the management of Legionella led to conditions in hot and cold water system that favoured the proliferation of Legionellae. It was entirely foreseeable that there would be risk of contracting Legionnaires disease for patients and employees working at this hospice."
St Christopher's Hospice, of Lawrie Park Road, Sydenham, London, pleaded guilty to breaching Sections 3(1) and 2(1)of the Health & Safety at Work etc Act 1974, and was sentenced to a two year conditional discharge, and ordered to pay costs of £25,000.

For further information on legionnaires visit:
www.hse.gov.uk
28th July 2016

[pedroble] 01/8/2016 22:50

Tristel Global·
We are pleased to announce the publication of our latest case study: Optimising cleaning and disinfection processes.

[rcturner2] 01/8/2016 07:54

Tip update in the IC for Tristel, repeated the buy recommendation.

[bolador] 31/7/2016 18:30

Oh, I thought it was to be used on patients behind on their self-pay account.

[piedro] 29/7/2016 21:08

FWIW ...

NDP Air Total+ es un producto en formato aerosol ...


Translation:
NDP Air Total + is a product in aerosol form for disinfection of clinical surfaces by air in closed rooms. The valve system "one-shot" nebulized total discharge allows the content in one application, reaching every corner of the room. Double effect decontamination and removal of unpleasant odors caused by bacterial decomposition.

Applications
Operating Rooms
ambulances
Meeting
laboratories
Air conditioning ducts

Composition
Didecyl dimethyl ammonium chloride, phenoxyethanol, cinnamaldehyde, isopropyl alcohol, propellant and excipients.

How to use


Effectiveness
NDP Air Total + is effective against bacteria (EN 1276), fungi (EN 1650), and against enveloped viruses: EN14476 against H1N1 influenza virus surrogate for lipophilic viruses (influenza, coronavirus, Ebola, Hepatitis, HIV ...).

[melton john] 29/7/2016 20:07

Fumigation?

[snadgey] 29/7/2016 19:59

Thinking its for decontaminating hospital rooms between patients.

[piedro] 29/7/2016 15:30

Anyone know what this product is/does?




TIA

[tmfmayn] 29/7/2016 14:42

bolador -- I am not an expert on all of this, but I think the barriers are quite high. Any rival will need to develop a product with at least the same disinfectant result that is delivered in at least the same process time for the user, and then sell it cheaper to the hospitals. TSTL's products are already quite effective and the user process time is not that long (a minute or two), so the scope for a really disruptive alternative could be relatively small. And then you have to persuade the hospitals to switch, which are quite slow in adopting new products I gather.

Also, TSTL's wipes are specified in various hospital/medical guidelines, which could be amended of course, but suggest some sort of barrier exists and that reverting back to ordinary bleach (or some other cheaper, less effective alternative) may now be a non-starter.

I too have pondered about hospitals downgrading to cheaper TSTL products, but the larger instruments apparently require the more expensive wipes to be disinfected properly. You can only clean smaller instruments with the cheaper foam product.

[bolador] 29/7/2016 09:55

Farmsted,
I do not know but how high are the barriers to entry of this business ? How difficult would it be to offer the NHS, now cash strapped, a similar cheaper set of products ?
Why can this stock never hold higher ground ? All small hours thoughts but worries all the same.

[farmsted] 29/7/2016 09:46

Has someone pulled the plug as all this good news and turned some shareholders to run for cover so WHY ???

[glaws2] 27/7/2016 13:28

Thanks Apad

[apad] 27/7/2016 09:16

It's not my thread, G. I mostly post on VLG (ValueGrowth). On the whole I find single company threads to be too partisan (this one is an exception).
apad

[glaws2] 27/7/2016 09:10

Apad - what's your thread called please