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TFG Tetragon Financial Group Limited

10.15
-0.10 (-0.98%)
Last Updated: 08:00:00
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Tetragon Financial Group Limited LSE:TFG London Ordinary Share GG00B1RMC548 ORD USD0.001
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.10 -0.98% 10.15 10.00 10.30 10.15 10.15 10.15 0.00 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Trust,ex Ed,religious,charty 240.7M 141.1M 1.6163 4.98 894.83M
Tetragon Financial Group Limited is listed in the Trust,ex Ed,religious,charty sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker TFG. The last closing price for Tetragon Financial was US$10.25. Over the last year, Tetragon Financial shares have traded in a share price range of US$ 9.65 to US$ 10.35.

Tetragon Financial currently has 87,300,000 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Tetragon Financial is US$894.83 million. Tetragon Financial has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 4.98.

Tetragon Financial Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
27/2/2021
15:21
On the dividend, they outlined the 5 considerations they take into account when deciding the level of payout. They highlighted that at the current share price the yield was 4%. They pointed out that "returns" in the way of dividend plus the tender had been $90m matching the prior year in a difficult environment.

On fees versus dividends he answered very literally that you can't equate them (whicjh is true) but in my view deliberately avoided the "between the lines" question of whether the trust is run for the benefit of the managers or the shareholders.

On the discount to NAV, he said that what was required to close it was more buyers than sellers and that there had been a big overhang of sellers in the US.He listed many reasons that have been suggested as the single cause but he believes in fact that they are all valid. Specifically dividends and buybacks are not a panacea.

On Ripple, the valuation is based on a DCF calc with a 15.5% discount rate. Shareholders should note that the class of share we own is not traded nor is it the currency itself. He explained that the SEC investigation was known to them at the time of investing and was the reason for the money back clause. Interestingly he then very quietly and quickly admitted that being considered a security was the way things were moving rather than a fact which is the very point Rippple have made in rejecting the claim. They noted that Ripple claim to have $360m cash on their balance sheet from $330m at end December, his point being that there is liquidity there

makinbuks
27/2/2021
15:07
Yes, same old story. Its a very good collection of assets, but minority shareholders don't appear to be obtaining the benefit. Will they ever actually list the asset management business? I think equitix is undervalued.
topvest
27/2/2021
15:06
You can listen to a replay here
hxxp://www.tetragoninv.com/investors/calendar-and-events

makinbuks
26/2/2021
23:57
I registered for a notification about the call but never got it! What did they say?
tula100
26/2/2021
16:59
damn i missed it - did they address the discount and why not buy back more shares ?
deckoj
26/2/2021
14:32
I can't partake in the Investor Call today. I hope someone will take the directors to task for only looking after management and ignoring shareholders.
alpal2
26/2/2021
12:33
I suspect the directors are not entirely clear about the concept of fiduciary duty to shareholders. The concept of being robber barons seems rather nearer to their consciousness.
flying pig
26/2/2021
09:36
Have a look at how much cash was paid to investment manager in fees last year compared to the dividend. Have a look at how much Reade Griffiths is taking out in salary and shares each year on top of what TFG are paying to the investment manager. They are looting the company dry. No mention in results of shareholder return any more. Its not a metric that is important to them.
horndean eagle
26/2/2021
08:57
Keeping the dividend at 10c is clear confirmation that the directots are only interested in themselves. Non-voting shareholders are irrelevant.
Definitely not pleased.

alpal2
23/2/2021
16:12
When does TFG do next dividend declaration?
alpal2
23/2/2021
10:31
Constructive is good. Aggressive flak pointless.

It's interesting- the independent directors are US-heavy and in my limited experience significant discounts to NAV are rarer in the US and much remarked on (Pershing).

apple53
23/2/2021
10:17
a53: In my submission to TFG, I did think of being critical of the inaction of the 'so-called' independent directors; they don't seem very independent and are certainly not looking to the interests of outside shareholders. Instead I made what are I hope are constructive suggestions which will be listened to by all directors to reduce the discount to NAV.
alpal2
23/2/2021
07:07
I have written (again) to Yuko.
I have included the points I made above, but tailored my view on the dividend to match the majority view on this board.
In particular I have asked where else management is able to achieve >100% short term return on investment, what is the logic for tenders vs market repurchases, how fees can be charged on NAV when management doesn't vigorously pursue discount management.

Has anyone attempted to write to the other 3 board members?

apple53
22/2/2021
13:27
I have also made suggestions on how they improve the rating- principal goal is to add to the dividend as this will help improve the market price.

They have got quite a good following with Chris at JPMorgan Cazenove stating that this is an attractive trust.

westofengland
22/2/2021
12:22
Looking forward to it
makinbuks
22/2/2021
12:18
Hope you have all sent questions for Investor Call. While I'm sure that many of the questions overlap, it's important for directors to know that more than a few shareholders do not think they are looking after small shareholders. I've asked for update on Ripple investment and made suggestions on how to narrow discount to NAV.
alpal2
21/2/2021
08:10
Obviously, "if only they'd bought Bitcoin", but Ripple's price is right back up - good time for them to sell, wonder if they will.
spectoacc
11/2/2021
19:08
Good work all.
topvest
11/2/2021
11:43
Same here, got a reply from Yuko. So give them credit, at least they have taken notice and promised to addressing the question, and replied quickly.

The more the PI voices and hopefully the more effect it will have. Hope the questions at the AGM will get the IIs notices as well.

riskvsreward
11/2/2021
11:23
Have had a polite reply already, saying they'll add my questions to the list at the AGM. If nothing else, we'll be giving them something to think about.
spectoacc
11/2/2021
08:53
Yes well done. I will join in
makinbuks
11/2/2021
08:49
I wrote once in December and once in Jan making point 2.
I will write again shortly incorporating more of your very good arguments, rvr.

apple53
11/2/2021
08:27
Excellent, good work.

Point 1. they'll claim are unrealised valuation uplifts, not cash, therefore lower divi so they can "invest"

Point 2. is my favourite - tho they'll say "We are doing buy-backs, 2x £25m tenders"

Point 3. is exactly how they like it, "you knew what you were buying" etc.


But let's see; I'll email them too, with slightly different wording.

spectoacc
11/2/2021
08:22
The company IR email is: ir@tetragoninv.com
riskvsreward
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