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Share Name St. Ives PLC ORD 10P
Order Type At Best Buy
Account Trading Account
Settlement Date 12-04-2017
Trade Price 0.529665
Trade Date 10-04-2017
Consideration £ 4,593.78
Commission £ 10.00
Stamp Duty £ 22.97
Total £ 4,626.75|
Apart from a few useful ratios like PER most ratios are useless without a lot of context, for example vs comparable companies. Even PER needs context. And all that guff has almost NO context.|
|Total drivel. How can they pass that off as research?|
|What a load of drivel!|
|Here are some facts about this company you need to know (not in any particular order):
-Net book value of freehold drops from £55.3m to £13.3m in 16 years.
-It has 160 clients on their books compared with 130 last year.
-Revenue in the early 2000s is higher than today.
-Profits are very volatile.
-The business disposed of assets worth £500m since 2002.
-Today, property, plants and equipment drop from £200m to £30m in 15 years.
-The weekly technical chart shows a strong buy signal. http://imgur.com/APja03L target='_blank' /> http://imgur.com/APja03L
-The capital turnover ratio is an early indicator for investors to sell if valuation got too frothy.
- The depreciation and amortisation charge since 2002 is £341m.
-Since 2002, total gross capex spending came to £477m with net capex amounts to £136m.
-As well as doing a lot of disposing (£500m worth in 14 years), they did a lot of acquisitions causing goodwill to go from £41m to £189m (2016).
- In the last 14 years, there have been 15 occasions where the share price movement were greater than 20% in either direction.
-If 2017 is another loss-making year, it will be the second time in a row.
-The last time it made a net loss (in 2009), market valuation (such as P/B and P/S) is 70% cheaper than today, despite share price collapsing. You can argue we are in a bull market which helps St. Ives to keep a hefty valuation.
The full article is here: http://bit.ly/StIvesarticle|
|Broker buy note today. Hence the rise yesterday (heads up?) and today.|
|A lot more activity than usual today Looks mainly like PI transactions - has this been tipped somewhere ?|
|Not so easy/attractive for a competitor.....St Ives operates in several sectors not closely inter-related.....no single obvious suitors for the whole group.|
|Consolidation within sector if slow down is here or coming...A competitor buy this company out...|
|The real cost of a lost contract:
|Looks like print is all up for sale:
|Page recruitment today noted several areas around the globe where things have slowed. There was a particular mention for a sharp fall in UK marketing recruitment revenues. Again, this suggests SIV's problems might be more down to the sector leading the economic cycle down rather than management specifics. This raises hopes of recovery again in time.|
|Operating cashflow is down 33%. It's not been wiped out. They have announced cost cutting measures which could increase that again and the dividend reduction will cover a big part of the reduction, too. If things don't deteriorate further, they might even have more residual cash to strengthen the balance sheet than last year. On the other hand, I think the whole economy is slowing so there could be ongoing headwinds. The discounted valuation to cashflow at the current price seems to make some allowance for further bad news. The shares are already quite cheap on current numbers but a slowing economy may end up justifying that. The company seems to be generating enough cash to meet its needs for now , though, including the reduced dividend.|
|Agree should not pay dividend, especially when it states it needs to strengthen its balance sheet, which can only mean one thing, a rights issues at some point. Looks cheap but needs financial support and it is at the mercy of those who can give it IMHO|
|Dividend should have been axed. Silly.|
|Could have been worse. Dividend rebased rather than axed. Debt down and pension deficit improved. Operating cashflow before working capital movements is down 33% so not the end of the world. Results from Omnicom, WPP and others suggest a slower year and a sharp deceleration in Q4. Advertisers and marketers are often at the front of the economic cycle so it looks like the start of an economic slowdown rather than being SIV specific. If that is the case, we can hope for a recovery in 18 months, althoogh it might get worse first. Beware blaming the management if they are operating in a cyclically slowing sector - not that I am saying they are blameless, just that some others are struggling..|
|Revenue - up|
|Bit of a down day.
Dividend - down
Debt - down
Pension Deficit - down
Write - down|
|It looks like the Marketing Activation's problems might not be just down to management. The US and UK are slowing according to WPP. Whilst this is not good news, it does raise the hope that Marketing Activation might recover again after the slowdown/recession.
WPP reported its slowest quarter of revenue growth since 2012 as clients spent less in the U.S. and U.K.
The world's largest advertising company also forecast slower growth for 2017, reflecting fewer new business wins in recent months and what it describes as a "tepid" macroeconomic environment.|
|Master RSI...your chart were a buy at 70p...now again a buy & it goes down!!..|
|Well to say there is NO value in this company is quite a strong verdict. The intangible assets certainly have value, and the remaining Books and the Strategic Marketing segments seem to be doing OK. So we have to try to estimate the damage from the disappointing performance of Marketing Activation segment (said to be due in large part to the ongoing pressures within the grocery retail sector) and the loss of the Harper Collins contract. They are of course looking to address the former by looking for new clients outside grocery retail .
The latter is easy enough as they have given us numbers, and the former we can estimate from the phrase "the out-turn for the full financial year will be materially below its previous expectations with the majority of the shortfall due to the pressures within the Marketing Activation segment". Material is >10% and the book contract loss is not far off the same number, so we get a drop in profit of perhaps 25-30%, a fair amount of which looks permanent, but some of it potentially recoverable.
Translate this to earnings per share and I am still seeing north of 12p underlying EPS, which does make a share price of 53p remarkably cheap unless you expect that a LOT worse is to come.|
|Hi Bookbroker, I agree with your remarks. Well done on exiting. There is no value in this company: negative tangible equity and ballooning debt. The various marketing ventures are worth a fraction of the ridiculous sums paid. A blind plunge into the digital has wrecked another decent company.
The only part of value is the printing división.|
|From the "UPS" thread.........
Master RSI 20 Feb '17 - 10:36 - 449 of 449
KEEP an EYE
SIV 55p +1.25p
Is the stock ready to bounce back?
Last Friday Pause on the falling and today bounce could be the start of recovery from the recent large fall after profit warnings and lost of contracts
One has to go back 7 years to see the same price|
|This co. will require some sort of fundraising, the way the share is falling suggests a covenant issue may become apparent!|
|Perhaps the market is expecting a RI to secure the business?
SP behaviour perhaps leans itself to that?
Looks historically cheap but perhaps set to become cheaper?
Don't hold but on Watchlist.
Keeps dropping where is the next support?
Wish I had the inside track lol.|