Shell Share Discussion Threads

[chiragmahe] 18/6/2015 10:37

fresh low today

[edjge2] 16/6/2015 21:10

Suspect that oil will move up gradually. Grexit likely to finalise soon with FTSE recovery, shell on support but oil services seem a better oil recovery play, from january anyway. RDSB does seem on a dive though. Up from the midday lows today. Some hope?

[hiriam007] 16/6/2015 19:58

Hi Orient. I was thinking of using BG as a cheap play on Rdsb. I'm thinking if I can get BG under a tenner it reduces a lot of the risk if the deal doesn't go through.

[fangorn2] 16/6/2015 19:47

@Imperial

BP however, subject to the same Oil&Gas price weakness/volatility, has hardly moved in comparison....

[0rient] 16/6/2015 19:47

Well calculated M_K_Hubbert :-)
I've been doing some sums too as always on the look out for long term SIPP positions. The question for me is BG a more attractive proposition than RDSB at the moment..if the meger goes ahead in the new year you should gain around 14% capital growth on the deal then receive a divi yeild of 8%+ on the converted RDSB shares.Obviously you need to deduct the remaining RDSB divi payments from this year but still a very attractive risk/reward if you feel the merger will take place :-)

[imperial3] 16/6/2015 19:25

This is dependant on oil and gas prices.While these remain weak,the share price will remain in the doldrums.

[m_k_hubbert] 16/6/2015 18:42

Orient, with yield at current share price @6.55% and dividends paid quarterly by dividing the constant of 70.2 by the yield a doubling time of 10yrs and 8m is arrived at. The constant of 72 referred to upthread applies when dividends are paid yearly but it's reduced to 70.2 when dividends are paid quarterly as is the case with RDSB. This doubling time assumes no change in share price or dividend rate i.e. it only allows for compounding.

Like some others here I've added to my holding recently. Shell is a good hold if one considers risk of sterling weakening as a factor due to dividends being declared in USD.

[0rient] 16/6/2015 15:49

Yep..I've started to scale in now too :)

Remember they have stated that they will commence a major buy back scheme in 2017 of at least $25 billion which should give good capital growth/protection and increase the divi yield even more. Long term if compounding you could perhaps double your money in ten years!! Not to sloppy :-)

[shaggies_view] 16/6/2015 14:51

Scaled in further. Fear gripping here, best place to start topping up. Will scale in further as it drops.

Shaggy

[wipo1] 16/6/2015 12:57

Yeah cash is king shorter term atm but a poor return tricky where to put cash in bank or property?

[wipo1] 16/6/2015 11:23

Good luck Supermarky surelly the markets are due a bounce soon. I am 90pc cash atm.

[supermarky] 16/6/2015 10:42

Now it's at the bottom of the channel i have a long position up to 1900 area. Risky business at the moment.

[supermarky] 16/6/2015 10:27

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[waldron] 16/6/2015 08:52

Losos tend to agree with you
but it will be tempered by alternative sources
of energy

more and lighter cars with more efficient engines
powered by not only petrol but gas,water,electricity and helped
along by solar

enjoy your week

ALL IN ALL A GREAT BUYING OPPORTUNITY

[losos] 16/6/2015 08:29

HOLTS - World population exploding and all will want cars - at some point oil has to be in demand again. For myself I believe very few NEW fields remain undiscovered so the simple supply & demand rules apply. Might take a few years but it's gonna happen!!!

[holts] 15/6/2015 20:42

Just keeping dripping in cash , there will be another oil spike , how far away is another matter , but whilst you can pick it up at these prices and lower a buy and hold strategy will pay off .

[imperial3] 15/6/2015 15:00

Are they obliged to ask shareholders for the vote on the BG deal?

[hiriam007] 15/6/2015 14:12

If the BG deal goes ahead it's not going to complete until next year. Is that correct?

[thales1] 15/6/2015 14:09

Must be a lot of shorting going on. Cannot make sense regarding share price on buy/sell ratio. Any thoughts?

[supermarky] 15/6/2015 14:07

Red every day. very depressing.

[smith99] 15/6/2015 13:20

Here comes 1775

[losos] 15/6/2015 09:26

Shaggy - "Can't see RDSB pulling out of the BG deal - board would have no credibility"

Agree, for better or worse they have to stick with it.

Do you remember the announcement of BP's deal with Russia in the South Kara sea. Press conference in London with speeches (Including one by some minor Moscow minister which bored everyone for nearly an hour lol)

All fell apart and personally I lost faith in Bob Dudley because of it. It matters not one jot whether I invest in BP or not, but I just can't do it!!!

[eisler] 14/6/2015 21:17

I have to agree. I think the BG deal will come good in time - guess it's all about horizons. I am in for the medium/long term. I have circa 2.5k shares and I invest here for a good divi - but you can also be sure that (one day in the next 2-3 years) RDSB will be back in favour and the share price will be 2500+

[xxxxxy] 14/6/2015 21:11

Greece, Russia, Syria, etc. Just may be unpredictable for some time, but tides go out and then come back.