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Schroder Uk Public Private Trust Plc LSE:SUPP London Ordinary Share GB00BVG1CF25 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 15.54 121,102 08:29:46
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
15.12 15.98
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Equity Investment Instruments -5.32 -0.58 141
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
10:11:09 O 16,650 15.8188 GBX

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Posted at 05/12/2022 08:20 by Schroder Uk Public Private Daily Update
Schroder Uk Public Private Trust Plc is listed in the Equity Investment Instruments sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker SUPP. The last closing price for Schroder Uk Public Private was 15.54p.
Schroder Uk Public Private Trust Plc has a 4 week average price of 15p and a 12 week average price of 15p.
The 1 year high share price is 34.45p while the 1 year low share price is currently 15p.
There are currently 908,639,238 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 1,387,897 shares. The market capitalisation of Schroder Uk Public Private Trust Plc is £141,202,537.59.
Posted at 02/11/2022 08:34 by cc2014
Can I ask if it is worth reading given there are so many other opportunties around? If I spend an hour of my time on it is there any hope I might see SUPP as worth buying?
Posted at 24/9/2022 07:05 by jonwig
Spec, I think #1299, 1300 were about the WEIF fiasco. WPCT, then SUPP, is a different fiasco. Blame Schroders, but the BoD has been invisible.
Posted at 23/9/2022 06:38 by spectoacc
The Times:

"Anyone buying SUPP shares for most of the period since April 26 arguably paid more than they needed to. That includes SUPP itself, which over the summer bought 2.1 million of its own shares for cancellation as part of a standard discount-narrowing exercise at a cost of £430,000 — inflicting further unnecessary costs on shareholders."


Good point. And:


"Schroders took £3.02 million in fees from SUPP last year; Link received £80,000."


SUPP share price down 45% over the year, but don't worry about Schroders.

Posted at 21/9/2022 08:36 by cc2014
Unbelieveable. That's another 6.5% of the NAV gone because things aren't being managed correctly.

Shockingly it suggests to me that the fund manager isn't even looking at the values of the individual holdings, not even once a month and has no awareness of how the investments are performing.

Basically, take the management fee, name some staff working on SUPP, but in the background they only work 2 days a month on SUPP and do other things.


I'll buy anything if it's cheap enough or the discount is enough by whatever measure cheap is, but I'm sad to say I cannot be tempted in here or into SBO and SBSI gets no more than a glance at the price once a quarter.

The issue being here for me that what price on a wind-up? Who knows but I know it's far less than NAV.

Posted at 21/9/2022 06:01 by spectoacc
You couldn't, and slipped out after close. Surely they and others hold a spreadsheet of the NAV? What else is incorrect?

Schroders to replace Link as AIFM. Whilst Link have always been a shambles - as known for a long time - having SUPP (mis)run by SDR as well as AIFM'd by SDR isn't good.

Schroders should either resign - immediately - or preferably put SUPP into run-off.

Why is that not obvious to them, and to all shareholders? It's been obvious to many on here for a very long time.

What value have the Schroders Juniors added during what's now years of running SUPP? Millions extracted in fees - what for? Judge it on s/p, or NAV, or new purchases, or managing down Woody's holdings, or competence - fail on every count.

Needs to happen either now, or when the large down-valuations of Tim/Ben/Roger's punts occurs.

Offer a rollover option into SBO, for those foolish enough to think they add anything.

Posted at 02/9/2022 14:35 by spectoacc
Think it is down to just one or two - ATOM the obvious one, ONT still possible for recovery.

But still the problem of when any money is ever returned. Otherwise only Greater Fool, & share price implies many fools have run out of money.

Posted at 08/7/2022 10:12 by spectoacc
Without going into too much detail - SUPP is basically 25% ONT (listed), 12% Atom Bank (unlisted, but say they're planning to list, but Atom are full of sh*t), 10% Benevolent AI (listed via SPAC), and a long tail consisting of:

1. Woodford stocks that still haven't made it, and by now are unlikely to;

2. Tim/Roger/Ben punts, some listed and down (JMAT, SPT, PHLL), some unlisted and increasingly unlikely to go anywhere (eg BackMarket - not a bad co, just not at the valuation they invested).


Percentages from 31st March, and will have increased relatively due to 6.4% Rutherford being, unsurprisingly, worth nothing at all.

For me, the big issue is what they do with the eventual proceeds from the top 3. No one seems to be compelling them to return cash, so shareholders may never see anything back. The Schroder Juniors picks are an embarrassment, and the fees will slowly bleed SUPP away.

The discount looks superficially attractive, but you can get "real" PE co's on similar, like NBPE (35%), HVPE (-44%), or something as troubled as SUPP: JZCP (-48%).

The first pays a 4.5% divi, the last is in the process of winding up. Strip out some of the obviously worthless co's from SUPP (like IH) & the discount, already not larger than HVPE or JZCP's, starts to look not nearly wide enough. Which might explain why the buybacks have been so paltry.

Sell ONT, return the cash to shareholders, roll the rump into SBO. But why do that, when you can claim two sets of fees?


[@Jonwig - the 0p was if Northern Trust didn't roll over the OD, which they did. Third time sub-20p for the s/p, March 2020 being the first.]

Posted at 06/6/2022 06:25 by spectoacc
Gasp! Who'd have thought it.

But, erm, where's mention of the cash loan the Schroders boys recently put in from SUPP, at 15% interest, to keep RUTH briefly afloat?

"..Could not be avoided.." and yet they've continued to throw money at it?

"Over £240m was spent.." - perhaps some honesty about where that money came from? I still don't believe Neil Woodford, via WIM, could tie the hands of an investment trust, WPCT/SUPP, to continue to provide new money at a vastly inflated RUTH valuation, once NW ceased to be the manager.

RUTH's Put was on WIM, not SUPP, as extensively discussed at the time. Shareholders should be told what steps - if any - were made to get out of the funding obligation. c.£22m is NOT the amount SUPP have lost on RUTH.

Link, once again, way behind the curve with the valuation, just as they will be with the other unlisteds this morning.

Surely assets to realise at RUTH, even with the business model having been flawed from the start (that even a pandemic couldn't rescue). But loans to pay off first.

A large chunk of the failure/loss here is at the door of Tim/Ben/Roger, but you'd not know it from reading that announcement. Nor from the self-congratulatory, long-delayed 31st March NAV RNS.

Not a single new investment they've made has been a success.

Patience eh.

Posted at 10/11/2021 12:30 by chucko1
Yes, so this is the NAV now incorporating the rise in ONT (it had already reflected the AUTL rise) although the ONT rise was known prior to the NAV publication - and yet the SUPP share price is, or has been, under the cosh.

It is clear from the trading patterns that there is a large and committed seller, using the rise in NAV to accelerate the sales, rather than finessing the price obtained. That is how it appears to me, at any rate, even though the statistical evidence is not yet strong (for the second claim).

Posted at 09/11/2021 10:38 by chucko1
With the 25% rise in AUTL and the rise today in the share price of ONT, the NAV on SUPP has risen by 1.7p in aggregate. And yet no movement at all in the SUPP share price

This is a good thing as no one is bothered any more and value in this trust is there for all to buy relatively cheaply - especially considering the far lower degree of risk.

I find it bewildering (or not) that the many supporters of this trust remain silent on what is possibly the best risk-reward available since its inception. But this is why I love medium-sized asset backed trusts - at some point, stupidity and fear (blended and aged) provides an irresistible pleasure.

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