Sainsbury (j) Share Discussion Threads

[pete160] 04/1/2024 22:56

Sounds like Sainsbury's ought to be running Royal Mail, the rail companies, the councils, civil service, teachers unions, NHS unions, etc etc.??

[tim 3] 04/1/2024 22:12

They have also re classified loads of jobs that were previously paid a premium to standard rate.

[spob] 04/1/2024 21:48

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Yes workers have lost out hugely.

Companies will increase 'headline' rates of pay, as they are FORCED to do so, by minimum wage law. But they will leave unsociable hour rates untouched year after year. Meaning huge pay cuts for workers, when comparing with the increased cost of living.

[rolo7] 04/1/2024 21:34

Sainsbury's has night premium and bank holiday premium still but reduced rates

[tim 3] 04/1/2024 21:27

Yeah it reminds me of the Tory's cutting tax or NI but freezing tax free allowance bands which affects low paid most.

[spob] 04/1/2024 21:18

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Many supermarket staff are earning the same as they were 15 years ago. (When you look at things in detail.) Meaning they are now much worse off after accounting for soaring inflation during the same time period.


They have lost Sunday premiums

They have lost Bank holiday premiums

They have lost Night premiums

Their pensions have been mismanaged and their terms have been screwed

They have lost payment for breaks



You can fool some of the people, some of the time

[pirates4] 04/1/2024 14:43

Staff in London get over 13pound

[pirates4] 04/1/2024 14:26

https://www.ig.com/en/news-and-trade-ideas/tesco-and-sainsburys-bolster-market-share-ahead-of-christmas-tra-240104

[tim 3] 04/1/2024 14:14

Staff to get 9% rise to £12 an hour.

[philanderer] 04/1/2024 13:48

Sainsbury’s to hike hourly pay for 120,000 staff across UK

The supermarket chain said hourly paid employees will see their salaries increase from £11 per hour to £12 per hour in March

[spob] 04/1/2024 11:33

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I can't ever see any of these large supermarkets pulling out of their multi-decade death spiral.

The writing has been on the wall for many years.

Still they continue down the same path.

Will any of these companies ever be run by a boss with a brain ?


I doubt it.

[loganair] 04/1/2024 09:10

It would be nice to see an increase in profits = an increase in the dividend rather then caring too much about market share.

[pirates4] 04/1/2024 08:47

It would be nice to see some progress to get this share price moving this year.

[netcurtains] 04/1/2024 08:16

Sainsburys Wins the Chrismas Crown:

[loganair] 03/1/2024 14:15

More like all the McDonald's they continually stuff down their faces every day.

The human brain is still prehistoric and when it comes to food it says beef smelling that way = a certain number of calories therefore we need to eat this much - where as McDonald's etc have so changed the smell of the meat that our brain says the smell of a McDonalds burger has say 300 calories when it fact it has 1,200 calories so our brains says we need 8 McDonalds worth of calories in a day when in reality we only need 2.

Some of the most fattening food is in North East Italy and yet they have some of the slimmest people in Europe - Why? they still eat proper smelling food and therefore their brains know the calorie content of the food they're eating, therefore they eat the correct amount of calories they need.

[bountyhunter] 03/1/2024 14:06

The fat people must buy the mega packets instead! ;)

[bountyhunter] 03/1/2024 13:41

Not to mention the quantity per item.
If you empty an average packet of crisps there's barely any crisps in a packet now, for example.

[loganair] 03/1/2024 12:15

With every thing one buys now, not only have the prices gone up, the quantity has gone down, even with the cut of clothing and the quality has gone down - therefore what is the true rate of inflation if taking all 3 into account?

The real rate of inflation is at least 50% higher then taking the increase in prices alone.

[loganair] 03/1/2024 10:58

For several years now I've been posting that I thought in 2025 Aldi/Lidl combined would top out at 22% market share while Morrison would bottom at 8%, ASDA at 12% and Tesco at 25% - I wonder how accurate my thoughts are going to be.

So far I think I've been wrong when it comes to Tesco as Aldi/Lidl seem to be taking most of their share from Morrison and ASDA while taking very little from either Tesco or Sainsbury's.

When it comes to Morrison's 8% is still well on the cards, maybe even a little lower while ASDA I can still see being in the lower 12 percents.

When I made my forecasts Morrison were at 11% UK market share, today they stand at 8.7%, a loss of 2.3% (however they did gain 0.4% from McColl's therefore their loss has been 2.7%) while ASDA were at 17.0% and today 13.6%, a loss of 3.4% while both TESCO and Sainsbury's are only very slightly down during the same time.


Note - all figures are from Kantar and not Nielsen who include M&S circa 3.5% market share.


If taking Nielsen then they already have Morrison down at 8.1% and ASDA at 12.3%.

[loganair] 03/1/2024 10:29

If Morrison hadn't bought out McColl's 18 months ago, their UK supermarket share would be around 0.3% to 0.4% lower then it currently is today.

At Morrison current rate of decline and Lidl current rate of growth, it looks likely that Lidl with over take Morrison in around 18 months times. This would mean in just 3 years Morrison's would have gone from being the 4th largest supermarket chain by market share to being number 6.

[bountyhunter] 03/1/2024 10:22

Agreed, and Sainsbury's should pick up at least some of the slack.